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CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed (4 Viewers)

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  • Start date Dec 8, 2012
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cloughie

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  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #211
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
You don't though do, hence why you want ACL to beat CCFC.
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You are clearly a fool as I have never said anything about one side or the other beating the other.

I have been supporting CCFC for over 45 years, no wonder you are not taken seriously with your childish comments
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #212
your not a real fan cloughie

please leave the forum
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #213
If we could get the 30K who would no doubt go to the JPT final if we got there to come to the Ricoh every other week then all this would be academic.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #214
Does that mean that my opinion is only 9% as valid as yours?

cloughie said:
And by the way pike I notice that you are in the very very small minority of 9% accordinding to the CET poll
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #215
Black6Osprey said:
Taxpayers didn't pay for it though. ACL are paying for it through a mortgage. The council was just a short term loan which was payed back.

Why do we keep banging on about taxpayers.
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The council owns 50% of the stadium as do the Higgs trust.

So who has to stump up the remaining balance of the £20M loan taken out to complete the stadium if ACL goes bust? The rent basically covers that sum.

So who pays for running the stadium if ACL incurs losses, it surely will on the reduced rental agreement unless ACL hold more & bigger events there.

SISU are just ratcheting up the pressure.. to get their greedy mitts on the stadium.
 

Black6Osprey

New Member
  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #216
Jack Griffin said:
The council owns 50% of the stadium as do the Higgs trust.

So who has to stump up the remaining balance of the £20M loan taken out to complete the stadium if ACL goes bust? The rent basically covers that sum.

So who pays for running the stadium if ACL incurs losses, it surely will on the reduced rental agreement unless ACL hold more & bigger events there.

SISU are just ratcheting up the pressure.. to get their greedy mitts on the stadium.
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Yes I know who owns it. They loaned some money and got it back. Taxpayers money returned.

Who does pay for running the stadium if ACL Ltd incur losses and who will pay if they don't fullfil their mortgage payments? Please enlighten me.
 

singers_pore

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #217
torchomatic said:
If we could get the 30K who would no doubt go to the JPT final if we got there to come to the Ricoh every other week then all this would be academic.
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Well I would be paying 2K+ to fly back to the UK for a JPT final and there are plenty more expats like me who would do the same. I suppose you think we should all be paying that every week to fly over for the games. I sympathize with your sentiments regarding the stay away fans who live in Cov, but please don't tar us all with the same brush.
 

torchomatic

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  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #218
Ah yes, as you could see from my post I was obviously having a go at expats who live outside the country and was obviously expecting them to fly thousands of miles for every home match.

singers_pore said:
Well I would be paying 2K+ to fly back to the UK for a JPT final and there are plenty more expats like me who would do the same. I suppose you think we should all be paying that every week to fly over for the games. I sympathize with your sentiments regarding the stay away fans who live in Cov, but please don't tar us all with the same brush.
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lordsummerisle

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  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #219
torchomatic said:
Ah yes, as you could see from my post I was obviously having a go at expats who live outside the country and was obviously expecting them to fly thousands of miles for every home match.
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They should, tax dodging Tory bastards the lot of them!
 

cloughie

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  • Dec 12, 2012
  • #220
covcity4life said:
your not a real fan cloughie

please leave the forum
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That would obviously be correct. not a real fan i knew i should have done something different with my life

Those who think that are the real supporters

I wish I was a good a supporter as them
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #221
Grendel said:
Actually of they negotiate a huge rent reduction that will be excellent news. The fact that ACL after relatively modest action have already agreed such a reduction tells you something.

There cunning plan by the way will be to stall even more and hope to get further concessions.

Lets hope they do as all of us I am sure are only interested in the clubs expenditure being as low as possible.
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Yes let's hope SISU carry out their cunning plan, don't do a deal and push for even more and move us away so they can

Classic

Cunning is correct in the boldrick sense
 
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sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #222
So Sisu where offered match day F&B and turned it down ????
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #223
It's an old thread

We were reminiscing on another old thread about AT, so I thought I would join in

It's Grendel applauding SISU's 'cunning plan' and encouraging them not to agree a deal and instead push for even more. .....

Worked out well
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #224
dongonzalos said:
It's an old thread

We were reminiscing on another old thread about AT, so I thought I would join in

It's Grendel applauding SISU's 'cunning plan' and encouraging them not to agree a deal and instead push for even more. .....

Worked out well
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Just as good as the 'let's turn down the cva, that'll show 'em' plan. A beaut that one.

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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #225
torchomatic said:
Just as good as the 'let's turn down the cva, that'll show 'em' plan. A beaut that one.

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One led to us moving 35 miles away

The other made no difference in the end

Encouraging SISU not to do a deal is one of the most stupid things a Cov fan could have done
 
Last edited: Apr 20, 2014
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Colin1883

Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #226
11th hour deal was turned down before a statuary demand was issued.... That makes the offer 18ish months old?
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #227
Who did the story on the CET?

Hope it wasn't Les Reid!
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #228
lordsummerisle said:
Who did the story on the CET?

Hope it wasn't Les Reid!
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That might have been before he became SISUs mouthpiece.

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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #229
torchomatic said:
That might have been before he became SISUs mouthpiece.
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Correct. He did some good reporting and got on well with us fans until he had a meeting with Joy.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2014
  • #230
Whatever happened to Sky Blue Taylor he used to so adamant that SISU should not compromise and keep pushing it and pushing it.

When has any deal ever been done where one side shows no compromise at all.

Very bizarre stance to take it was always going to go one way with that approach
 

smouch1975

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2014
  • #231
Wow. Wasn't expecting to see this one again until after the JR.
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2014
  • #232
Maybe this reminds the sixfields posse (secret meetingers) that offers for rent reduction and access to f&b have been offered !!!!
 
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Spionkop

New Member
  • Apr 21, 2014
  • #233
But we knew all this. It is long time common knowledge.
We also know that a £150,000 rent was offered.
Turned down. Ignored.
We know what Sisu are up to.
Everything for next to nothing.
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2014
  • #234
Spionkop said:
But we knew all this. It is long time common knowledge.
We also know that a £150,000 rent was offered.
Turned down. Ignored.
We know what Sisu are up to.
Everything for next to nothing.
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Yes but its good to sometimes to remind people because Sisu & the sixfields posse can easily lose recollection of events !!!
 
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skybluericoh

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2014
  • #235
torchomatic said:
While the rent is still more than double that paid by any other L1 club, it was a start and I think SISU should have gone with that. However, the club are correct; ACL shouldn't be leaking the deal to the press. Their way of getting people on their side, I guess.
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So you want to be kept in the dark by both sides?

The 2nd biggest issue I have with SISU is the way they continually disengage the fans. If they were open and honest i think more people would trust them. That fact that they just spin line after line about how hard they they have been done too and how everything they do is for the good of the club, even the good of the fans of CCFC, is they cannot fill the void of information with evidence then others will. I for one am happy it's ACL and not someone with a 'heard from a good source' story.

ACL moving 67% SISU 0%. Yeh 400K is lot for L1 but love or hate the Ricoh you cannot call it a shed. They want it for free, so they can add value to the club. If they want to add value they should invest in the club, offer a fair price to either purchase acl, the stadium or both, or a fair rent deal. Carry on as they are and the club will be beyond repair for at least the next ten years.
 
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