I know there is a lot of fear about SISU getting their hands on the Ricoh but what exactly is everyone scared of compared to the situation we have now?
Torch I can see where you're coming from, but- it's not about the rent.
By the way, OSB you're doing a fantastic job. Thanks
And the club is at risk because of the high rent. What's the difference?
How you (or any one else) can complain about ACL leaking details to the press, given SISU's past history, is beyond me.
Give half the Ricoh to a bunch of shysters who couldn't make even a half decent job of running a football club? You must be joking. It's SISU who would get the stadium, not the club, so we'd be in an even worse position than we are now.
kILBANES GONE ,jUST NEED BELL TO GO TORCH ,QUIDS IN, CHANGE FOR A BARGAIN SIGNING.
I'm pretty sure that £4.2m (can't remember them actually confirming a figure tbh) was the playing budget not the wage budget and includes wages, bonuses, purchases, signing on fees, agents fees, etc.A stadium rent of £400,000 or a wage bill approaching £4.2million - do you seriously think the former would be the financial figure that really threatened this club's survival?! C'mon Torch. :thinking about:
OK, let's all have it this way. We'll pay the rent (very reasonable for the stadium as most of you keep saying), keep paying it, but then sell everyone to pay for it. We'll try and survive in this massive stadium with around 8-10K a week and...and this is the biggie....we must not moan. Deal?
If we'd of been promoted to the premier league, would SISU have demanded to pay MORE rent as it was under the league average (if there is one, but just making a point).
The offer was more than generous and the club could easily survive on that. It's £7.5k per week. Or about 2 average players wages. That won't break the bank.
SISU wanted the stadium. Now they can't get it they are utterly screwed. They will take the club down and blame ACL. Otherwise they would have accepted this way more than generous offer.
how could it be worse? The club dont own it now and are reliant on sisu funding our losses every season.
People seem to be confusing wanting the best for the club and some bible reading morality group.
I dont care about charities, acl or fat councillors. I only want my club to survive and go forward not drop down to alko aluminium ladders league and change their name and have a 10 man party that we got rid of sisu and we have to bring our own drinks.
the responsibility of owning a football club reqiure the club owners to fund its own losses ,bristol city just posted £14m.on a turnover of around £10m.
Overheads were around £6m.,ours are £4m. If you include the old rent. They had the chance to cut losses last year but chose to stay they are responsible for their own demise.
Sensible, but!!! I think like others that sisu don't care for the football club and acl are not going to let them just take the land. All we can look forward to is just about competing in league 1 for the foreseeable future- joy!!!No, pay the reduced rent to save the club for now but continue to negotiate while trying to find other revenue streams and/or investment.
The less the rent is the better things will be, even if it leaves us still in a black hole. A reduction is obviously better than paying the whole thing. Get the reduction then try and negotiate for both a further cut if possible and owning half the stadium.
Yes but most people seem to saying SISU OUT more than CLUB IN. People would rather we drop out of sight just because they dont like SISU. I dont like them either but I dont want the club to disappear just to get rid of them.[/Q
If the club dissapears it really will be their own doing and for that reason alone they really should'nt be here .
I'm pretty sure that £4.2m (can't remember them actually confirming a figure tbh) was the playing budget not the wage budget and includes wages, bonuses, purchases, signing on fees, agents fees, etc.
Im sick and tired of SISU. I just can't see this ending well and I can see our beloved club dissapearing over all this. The sad thing is SISU, Fisher and Waggot will never be made to pay for it. Once our clubs gone, they pack up their things and go off to destroy someone elses dreams...
The figure of £170K being the average paid by League 1 clubs is not accurate. There are 18 clubs who own their own grounds they should not be included in the calculation. Therefore ONLY 6 clubs are paying on average £170K. One club are paying £450K so the other 5 clubs are paying on average £114K. So with the exception of the one club £400K for the Ricoh does seem very high. The one club paying £450K is Walsall. The facilities at the Ricoh are far superior than the Bescote Stadium, so come on lets get round the table and sort this out. My gut feeling is that a rent of £300K while in League 1 with an increase when we are promoted to tne Championship and again if we ever get into the Premiership.
The figure of £170K being the average paid by League 1 clubs is not accurate. There are 18 clubs who own their own grounds they should not be included in the calculation. Therefore ONLY 6 clubs are paying on average £170K. One club are paying £450K so the other 5 clubs are paying on average £114K. So with the exception of the one club £400K for the Ricoh does seem very high. The one club paying £450K is Walsall. The facilities at the Ricoh are far superior than the Bescote Stadium, so come on lets get round the table and sort this out. My gut feeling is that a rent of £300K while in League 1 with an increase when we are promoted to tne Championship and again if we ever get into the Premiership.
The figure of £170K being the average paid by League 1 clubs is not accurate. There are 18 clubs who own their own grounds they should not be included in the calculation. Therefore ONLY 6 clubs are paying on average £170K. One club are paying £450K so the other 5 clubs are paying on average £114K. So with the exception of the one club £400K for the Ricoh does seem very high. The one club paying £450K is Walsall. The facilities at the Ricoh are far superior than the Bescote Stadium, so come on lets get round the table and sort this out. My gut feeling is that a rent of £300K while in League 1 with an increase when we are promoted to tne Championship and again if we ever get into the Premiership.
Taxpayers must not line SISU's pockets. I'd rather see the club go bust.
The other clubs are paying £114k for what sort of stadia?
What capacity do they hold? How old is the ground and stands? Do they need overhauling and upgrading upon promotions to Championship?
This is why the Ricoh is more expensive. It is a top notch stadium in its prime, with a 32,000 capacity, that is immediately available for championship and premiership use.
Cannot just look at what league we are in in isolation.
The offer made of £400k should have been snapped up in an instant and then the club could address the real problems of team success and the resultant income stream it brings.
Costs are a small problem here, crowd related turnover is the major issue that needs resolving.
All very nice, but we will never fill it. We are not a top notch, in it's prime Club with 32K fans.
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