He’s scored in 3 games in 14 under Lampard.
Take out that one 10/10 performance v Sunderland, even in the games he scored (Burnley & Plymouth), has he had a standout performance?
For me, I’d say no. On his day, Wright is one of the best players in this division but he has t hit those heights under Lampard.
Agreed. The Chelsea team he played in was extremely physical.. watching Simms and Wright after coming from that background must be quite an eye opener.Its quite clear that for me, our forwards need to be improved.
I would have no issues with Simms, BTA and Bassete all leaving.
Lampard will know this too. In my mind he wants a big unit who knows how to use their body as that main striker choice.
JDS better than bidwell according to lampard then..
Sakamoto and EMC fit the physical idea but in different ways, Sakamoto harries and nips at players whilst EMC is excellent at using his body to shield.Agreed. The Chelsea team he played in was extremely physical.. watching Simms and Wright after coming from that background must be quite an eye opener.
It isn't necessarily a big striker just one who anticipates better and times their jumps , look at Rudonis heading ability in comparisonSakamoto and EMC fit the physical idea but in different ways, Sakamoto harries and nips at players whilst EMC is excellent at using his body to shield.
We need a big striker who can throw elbows and really throw centre halves about and I think it will be formidable
Rudoni is quite big actually. Isn't he like 6ft 2?It isn't necessarily a big striker just one who anticipates better and times their jumps , look at Rudonis heading ability in comparison
Which one of our strikers would you say is good at getting infront of a defender to attack the ball , which one would you say offers a genuine aerial threat and which one would you say is strong and can hold the ball up and bring others into play consistently
The answer isn't good btw , the way frank wants to play i feel the striker needs these qualities
He's tall I grant you that but I was referring to the art of heading the ball which Simms and Wright both struggle to do well a lot of the timeRudoni is quite big actually. Isn't he like 6ft 2?
Sakamoto and EMC fit the physical idea but in different ways, Sakamoto harries and nips at players whilst EMC is excellent at using his body to shield.
We need a big striker who can throw elbows and really throw centre halves about and I think it will be formidable
Simms is objectively our best heading forward and frankly, has scored more headed goals than the likes of Ivanovic, Keiffer Moore and Carlton Morris (more headed goals this season than both players over the last 2). Names I’ve seen touted to come in and do a better job in that respect.
For me, we’re a bit too bit too predictable. We don’t tend to counter attack with any real purpose, looking at Sunderland at home in the league, we scored 2 goals from counters.
There were multiple times that EMC or Sakamoto would take on a defender to then check back rather than getting the ball in. Likewise, in midfield, we have more control but miss a bit of directness, be it a shot or pass.
Over this season, I’ve seen plenty of occasions where Simms, Wright, Bassette and BTA make runs from deep and we’ve opted to not go for the pass. It’s a bit too conservative and reminds me of when Arsenal would need to score the ‘perfect’ goal under Wenger.
When all your strikers are struggling, it signals to me that they aren’t the problem. We’re not creating the types of chances that Simms, Wright and BTA were scoring last season.
Like Evo said the other day... a Temu Drogba.Sakamoto and EMC fit the physical idea but in different ways, Sakamoto harries and nips at players whilst EMC is excellent at using his body to shield.
We need a big striker who can throw elbows and really throw centre halves about and I think it will be formidable
Yet Luton play with wide players and throw the ball into the box at every opportunity and still Morris doesn't score many headed goals ?Morris is far superior to simms in the air and better on the ball , he would suit a lampard team more than Ellis simms imho
The strikers are struggling because they all lack the attributes to succeed in the system , haji when hes playing well is the only one but hes too hot and cold
You take out Simms' hattrick last season against a genuinely woeful Rotherham, and another against a NL South side then his season looks incredibly average. You can't remove goals to suit your argument.
I think Wright is that kind of player though. Even last season some of the games he scored in he was average or even anonymous. Strange how you try to shoehorn it into being a Lampard issue.
Yes don't mind those suggestions tooLike Evo said the other day... a Temu Drogba.
Think Salech from Cardiff would be a real good striker pick up. Would take him and then Riis on a free. Sell BTA and Simms and you're in a profit with 2 better players, and thats before you even start looking at selling Wright and using that money.
Simms is objectively our best heading forward and frankly, has scored more headed goals than the likes of Ivanovic, Keiffer Moore and Carlton Morris (more headed goals this season than both players over the last 2). Names I’ve seen touted to come in and do a better job in that respect.
For me, we’re a bit too bit too predictable. We don’t tend to counter attack with any real purpose, looking at Sunderland at home in the league, we scored 2 goals from counters.
There were multiple times that EMC or Sakamoto would take on a defender to then check back rather than getting the ball in. Likewise, in midfield, we have more control but miss a bit of directness, be it a shot or pass.
Over this season, I’ve seen plenty of occasions where Simms, Wright, Bassette and BTA make runs from deep and we’ve opted to not go for the pass. It’s a bit too conservative and reminds me of when Arsenal would need to score the ‘perfect’ goal under Wenger.
When all your strikers are struggling, it signals to me that they aren’t the problem. We’re not creating the types of chances that Simms, Wright and BTA were scoring last season.
Yet Luton play with wide players and throw the ball into the box at every opportunity and still Morris doesn't score many headed goals ?
That’s my point actually because I’m not doing that. It’s Grendel and other who peddles this ‘he’s only scored in “x” games’. In the same back and forth, Grendel switches to the Haji Wright scores every 1.5 games which is an MPG stat.
I’m calling out the obvious hypocrisy of using one metric for one player v another.
Again, the stats for Wright are heavily weighted to his form pre-injury and under Robins/Carr. His record under Lampard isn’t as strong.
This isn’t having a go at Wright. Quite the opposite, the thing I’m concerned about is that our strikers form when we play 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 is weak and that needs addressing.
didn't he assist both the goals we scoredLet's not pretend that Vik made much impact in the 3 playoffs games he played either. Shit happens, bad timing for the form of our strikers that's all.
Morris is far superior to simms in the air and better on the ball , he would suit a lampard team more than Ellis simms imho
The strikers are struggling because they all lack the attributes to succeed in the system , haji when hes playing well is the only one but hes too hot and cold
Plot twist.. it will be the personnel.Morris has scored 9 headed in his last 3 seasons which is the same as Simms but in a lot more games and minutes because Simms had half a season in 22/23.
We’re not signing Morris so this is a redundant conversation and your point isn’t backed up by facts. Facts are friendly.
These players were perfectly capable of scoring goals under Robins when we still prioritised possession so it’s the tactics that need to change rather than the personnel imo.
Morris has scored 9 headed in his last 3 seasons which is the same as Simms but in a lot more games and minutes because Simms had half a season in 22/23.
We’re not signing Morris so this is a redundant conversation and your point isn’t backed up by facts. Facts are friendly.
These players were perfectly capable of scoring goals under Robins when we still prioritised possession so it’s the tactics that need to change rather than the personnel imo.
Feel we need to find a young Vik from somewhere, obviously won't find one as good but one with similar attributesI wouldn't go for Morris personally, but he's obviously better than Simms. A low bar granted.
He can be unplayable at times but can be just as abject in othersI like Wright and generally think hes a better forward than simms
Don’t think anyone can seriously argue otherwise at this pointJDS better than bidwell according to lampard then..
His aerial stats are great but his other stats are pretty rancid. If we’re going to be a pure route 1 team next season then I could see it, but I think we’re a bit more sophisticated than that - we are not going to play the way we did against Sunderland every week. We didn’t even play that way against Sunderland in March!Morris has some of the highest aerials won in the division this season and in general its something we struggle with from both Simms and wright .. but i agree we probably won't be signing carlton morris
Morris has scored 9 headed in his last 3 seasons which is the same as Simms but in a lot more games and minutes because Simms had half a season in 22/23.
We’re not signing Morris so this is a redundant conversation and your point isn’t backed up by facts. Facts are friendly.
These players were perfectly capable of scoring goals under Robins when we still prioritised possession so it’s the tactics that need to change rather than the personnel imo.
Strange in his interview after the hat trick that Wright said he was disappointed there was an international break. He wanted to just keep on playing.I'm not having this Wright not turning up for big games bollocks. He's just out of form. He's played well in big games for us before, Wolves Away for example. The guy had a shit injury, the type that lingers, who knows it was probably adrenaline that got him that hatrick in his return.
Let's not pretend that Vik made much impact in the 3 playoffs games he played either. Shit happens, bad timing for the form of our strikers that's all.
I'm not against always looking to upgrade but Wright is a fine player who is out of form/unfit that is all
We'll move our strikers on, it's pretty obvious.We seem to be under the impression that there is money available to splash on better strikers, I'm not convinced there is.
This is my point about recruitment though. I don't even think the strikers signed were even necessarily right for whatever formation/tactics Robins was trying to put out.
They certainly don't fit with the formation/tactics under Lampard but this is a byproduct of inheriting a team you haven't built.
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