Grendel
Well-Known Member
He'd give an opinion no doubt woven in spin. Unless his up a ladder cleaning the guttering of course.
Given he's a director of ACL he's probably able to give the other side to these statements. He can probably state whether he or any of the other ACL people have ever met the mysterious Joy and took a trip to Leeds with her for example.
I have this terrible feeling they will still be in charge they will get the Ricoh or at least part of it but say we have to recoup our investment so sorry we cant invest in the club and as you know we dont give a shit about you anyway besides youve got the best ground in division 4 so what are you moaning about
Time for stout hearts gentlemen and ladies.
Even in their own version of events our owners sound like incompetent, grasping, mendacious fools.
Stand firm. Be of good cheer. Once more unto the breaches.
Not a penny more.
If we die in the attempt, or the club does, better to die with your boots on than crawl on your belly to support such an embarrassing regime.
And what Tim said is the gold plated Gospel truth with no spin? Even the contradictory bits?He'd give an opinion no doubt woven in spin. Unless his up a ladder cleaning the guttering of course.
You must be drunk surely?
You must be drunk surely?
Think he has to go direct to the Queen of Debt and negotiate himself but not with Elliott or esp Hoffman and call her bluffJust hope the rumours about haskell are true. At least if he can get a foot in the door it's a start.
One of the top 25 clubs (Cov) is seeking to operate on a budget similar to 1 of the bottom 10 league clubs in terms of size (yeovil) grrrrrreat.
You must be drunk surely?
we're not one of the top 25 clubs
always difficult to guage a club's size but we are in the top 25. Definitely bigger clubs are
spurs Hammers Chelski arsenal villa Forest Wolves Derby Wednesday Leeds Newcastle Blunderland Everton Man U Man city Liverpool = 16 Blues norwich Southampton stoke Leicester west Brom over the past 10 years look like a bigger club but have had the
luxury of promotions or an extended stay in the premeirship. Ipswich / Sheff Utd are about the same size as us. 24 clubs mentioned = cov = 25.
Basically Fisher is saying the council behaved in a totally underhand manner, this doesn't really sound likely.
I can't believe this version of events.. its like the "non-trading property subsidrary" story, not credible.
based on what? we've been out of the top flight for over a decade, we've finished mainly 17 or below in the championship. our attendances arent the greatest either.always difficult to guage a club's size but we are in the top 25. Definitely bigger clubs are
spurs Hammers Chelski arsenal villa Forest Wolves Derby Wednesday Leeds Newcastle Blunderland Everton Man U Man city Liverpool = 16 Blues norwich Southampton stoke Leicester west Brom over the past 10 years look like a bigger club but have had the
luxury of promotions or an extended stay in the premeirship. Ipswich / Sheff Utd are about the same size as us. 24 clubs mentioned = cov = 25.
But Tim is going to boost those attendances with his plan to take the club out of Coventry.based on what? we've been out of the top flight for over a decade, we've finished mainly 17 or below in the championship. our attendances arent the greatest either.
But Tim is going to boost those attendances with his plan to take the club out of Coventry.
I think my personal favourite line is, "ACL is not even a real business."
This from the author of CCFC Ltd and CCFC (Holdings) Ltd accounts signed off, plus the much discussed confusion over the former being a non trading entity etc. which has taken a court appointed Administrator many weeks to fail to unravel.
No but they might need one to bail out a stadium build for them.They probably need a taxpayer funded institution to buy a mortgage for them that they cannot afford -- that will make them a proper company eh?
based on what? we've been out of the top flight for over a decade, we've finished mainly 17 or below in the championship. our attendances arent the greatest either.
what about middlesborough, Leeds, sunderland, sheffield wedneday, derby, forest, bolton, etc?
Ah I see you have dumped the dull and irrelevant information about my job to the archive section of your brain. Let me refresh youThey may get to be near you then you can actually watch them instead of spouting pro- Council crap on here all the time PWKH -- sorry "James"
Nope and for the avoidance of any further doubt, I don't work for and have never worked for CCFC (or any subsidiary company based in the UK or the cayman islands or anywhere else), ACL, Coventry City Council, the Civil Service etc. At the present time I don't live in Coventry or even in the Midlands - I am not Joy S, Tim F, PWKH, a god, God, David Cameron etc.Nor me. I'm thinking a shop run by the council - selling milk perhaps.
Its about time all this came out and it fits with what I was told along time ago that the council had strung the club along telling them a deal could be done only for them to back out at the eleventh hour which is why I always tell you that CCC have no intention of selling its part of ACL to anyone...it does not make the decision to leave the Ricoh right though.
Genuinely don't know on that one, maybe SISU just didn't realise that the fans are effectively the club (as without them you get far less income coming in). Fans also rightly or wrongly believe that they have a say in how the club should be run, which under most owners they don't (if you exclude the text a sub fiasco). So are they only now just waking up to the realisation that the fans are not happy with the way their club has been run and are threatening revolt? It's very possible, although they've had a while to spot it, wonder why it's taken them this long to do so?Do you think this might be some kind of new dawn? Joy might have been made much more acutely aware of the "Community" issues, that TF faces amongst the fan base... There are actually people who have a good idea about business practice & law, & they are getting closer & closer to things that have happened or are becoming ever-more dug-in to the SISU-out campaign? So the only way to appease is to start coming clean about more things - to show SISU are not the devil incarnate, but have been shafted themselves?
OR
Is this just more distraction & refocusing attention away from some of the financial skullduggery & mis-management that has been alleged?
Because James, they know nothing about football.Genuinely don't know on that one, maybe SISU just didn't realise that the fans are effectively the club (as without them you get far less income coming in). Fans also rightly or wrongly believe that they have a say in how the club should be run, which under most owners they don't (if you exclude the text a sub fiasco). So are they only now just waking up to the realisation that the fans are not happy with the way their club has been run and are threatening revolt? It's very possible, although they've had a while to spot it, wonder why it's taken them this long to do so?
All of the above are included except bolton and M'boro, lets see how big their attendances are after an extended period in the lower half of the championship. Wolves are and always will be a bigger club than Fulham - IMO.
Effectively
SISU screwed ACL in such a way that they and the council were very reluctantly exploring the possibly of SISU taking over half of ACL. With SISU manipulating it to get it for dirt cheap.
In July Haskell took an interest in CCFC
The rest is history.
Tim needs the fans good will.
Well it's too late for that. They destroyed that good and proper they have improved nothing since they arrived.
Joys pumped in 45 million is banked as debt plus the 30 million they were supposed to have cleared.
He admits that to build the 8k Lego ground will involve more borrowing.
My good will is telling me not to choose three years elsewhere followed by a legoland 8k stadium.
It tells me choose the Yank or the Chinese and new hope.
Now that I can believe.Because James, they know nothing about football.
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