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CCFC Club in Crisis (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Sep 6, 2017
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Nick

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #106
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
So protests cost us 12 points last year that's what we were short?
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Where have I said that?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #107
Nick said:
Where have I said that?
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He he what a joker.....
 
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pastythegreat

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #108
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Don't go myself but what would that do?
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Well for all the Coventry folk that go (football fans or not), that have more affiliation with a club that has been in the City for over 130 years than a club who have just rocked up stopped going, it would bring their average attendance down from about 12k to about 4 or 5k. If you lost that many fans overnight would you not wonder Why? Ask questions as to what's happened? And if a resounding answer comes back from the people of Coventry, "whilst you play hard ball with our team, you don't get our support"! I'm sure they'll soon budge.

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pastythegreat

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #109
letsallsingtogether said:
Who goes to those games then other then rugby fans.
How many city fans attend those games?
Why don't you go to a game and stand outside handing out leaflets.
Funny the amount of people that bring that up but couldn't be bothered to attend the the protest arranged only 3 turned up You wernt one of them.
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No i wasnt one of the 3 as I clearly knew nothing about it! As id assume the majority of the City as only 3 turned up. How abbout you get off your high horse and next time you arrange a protest, advertise it fucking propeely!!

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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #110
pastythegreat said:
No i wasnt one of the 3 as I clearly knew nothing about it! As id assume the majority of the City as only 3 turned up. How abbout you get off your high horse and next time you arrange a protest, advertise it fucking propeely!!

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Well it was known about on here been mentioned a few times.
As for organising anything it ain't happening given up over to you.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #111
letsallsingtogether said:
He he what a joker.....
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So you aren't going to say where I blamed them for relegation? That's the thing, it's either black or white. Any grey and it's confusion.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #112
pastythegreat said:
No i wasnt one of the 3 as I clearly knew nothing about it! As id assume the majority of the City as only 3 turned up. How abbout you get off your high horse and next time you arrange a protest, advertise it fucking propeely!!

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Only 4 turned up at the council house as well.
I know the time was changed due to the council changing there meeeting but people couldnt be bothered.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #113
Nick said:
So you aren't going to say where I blamed them for relegation? That's the thing, it's either black or white. Any grey and it's confusion.
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Nick just read what you write I dont need to point it out your not that stupid.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #114
Oh look the only hope this club has is if it gets comtrol if the stadium so bankrupting the occupier is the only solution .

If they are so bothered the trust should ask for volunteers to roadblock every wasps game and peacefully protest outside every match

They'd be gone by the end of the year.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #115
letsallsingtogether said:
Nick just read what you write I dont need to point it out your not that stupid.
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Because I haven't said it have i? Who's the joker?
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #116
pastythegreat said:
Well for all the Coventry folk that go (football fans or not), that have more affiliation with a club that has been in the City for over 130 years than a club who have just rocked up stopped going, it would bring their average attendance down from about 12k to about 4 or 5k. If you lost that many fans overnight would you not wonder Why? Ask questions as to what's happened? And if a resounding answer comes back from the people of Coventry, "whilst you play hard ball with our team, you don't get our support"! I'm sure they'll soon budge.

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People will spend their hard earned cash were they want if as you say there are up to 7000 watching Wasps that would come and watch City dream on we will soon be back down to less than 7000 diehards let alone people who want to be entertained . As for hard ball I presume you mean playing at the Ricoh next season if we put a proper offer in i'm sure it would be considered
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #117
Grendel said:
Oh look the only hope this club has is if it gets comtrol if the stadium so bankrupting the occupier is the only solution .

If they are so bothered the trust should ask for volunteers to roadblock every wasps game and peacefully protest outside every match

They'd be gone by the end of the year.
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curious, why would wasps leave with that but SISU wouldn't if we did it at home games ?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #118
Grendel said:
Oh look the only hope this club has is if it gets comtrol if the stadium so bankrupting the occupier is the only solution .

If they are so bothered the trust should ask for volunteers to roadblock every wasps game and peacefully protest outside every match

They'd be gone by the end of the year.
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When you organising it then? I'm in.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #119
ccfcway said:
curious, why would wasps leave with that but SISU wouldn't if we did it at home games ?
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Fair point.
 

pastythegreat

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #120
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
People will spend their hard earned cash were they want if as you say there are up to 7000 watching Wasps that would come and watch City dream on we will soon be back down to less than 7000 diehards let alone people who want to be entertained . As for hard ball I presume you mean playing at the Ricoh next season if we put a proper offer in i'm sure it would be considered
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You've taken me COMPLETELY out of context there. Not once did I say that 7000 people going to watch wasps that would normally watch city. I said that there are probably about 7000 city folk (people from Coventry) who go and should have more affiliation with a 130 year old part of city history than some out of towers.
Wasps when in London (there home town) had average gates of 6000. Now in Coventry the average 12. Have an extra 6k Londoners started following them now they've moved?? No, they've gained them fans from Coventry. People who would of otherwise went to CCFC or CRFC or Blaze or Bees.
And for your information, the reason wasps won't talk about the stadium is sweet fa to do with a "shit" offer, it's because they're taking ccc to court.
Please go away and get your facts right, then, and only then come back into my conversation.

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ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #121
pastythegreat said:
And for your information, the reason wasps won't talk about the stadium is sweet fa to do with a "shit" offer, it's because they're taking ccc to court.
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I think its more likely that its not about CCC, its about the £30m they are claiming Wasps should pay due to undervaluing ACL
 
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pastythegreat

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #122
ccfcway said:
I think its more likely that its not about CCC, its about the £30m they are asking Wasps to pay
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It initially started as wasps not talking about a deal extension whilst CCFC were taking ccc to court as it indirectly involved wasps. Then SISU so Ok, fuck you, we'll sue you too!

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #123
ccfcway said:
I think its more likely that its not about CCC, its about the £30m they are claiming Wasps should pay due to undervaluing ACL
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Wasps want the club to sign a deal.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #124
I do think the club is in crisis! I've no idea of a solution or how we can bring it about but it is in crisis
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #125
Grendel said:
Wasps want the club to sign a deal.
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excellent, whos holding it up then ?
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #126
pastythegreat said:
You've taken me COMPLETELY out of context there. Not once did I say that 7000 people going to watch wasps that would normally watch city. I said that there are probably about 7000 city folk (people from Coventry) who go and should have more affiliation with a 130 year old part of city history than some out of towers.
Wasps when in London (there home town) had average gates of 6000. Now in Coventry the average 12. Have an extra 6k Londoners started following them now they've moved?? No, they've gained them fans from Coventry. People who would of otherwise went to CCFC or CRFC or Blaze or Bees.
And for your information, the reason wasps won't talk about the stadium is sweet fa to do with a "shit" offer, it's because they're taking ccc to court.
Please go away and get your facts right, then, and only then come back into my conversation.

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Grendel said:
Wasps want the club to sign a deal.
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So who's right and who's wrong?
Go away do some research then come back to us with some answers.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #127
When a new kid comes on the block you up your game don't bleat about they should not be there if we bought the ground they would not have been here the fans they have gained might just be they are entertaining them. Fans who watch football speedway or whatever other sport don't suddenly watch rugby .Any offer they make does not need talks to take place we want, not them. We know how much it is worth put in the right offer and they will talk They are business men after all, you seem to be like SISU wait till we have nowhere to play and them blame every one else. By the way name the clubs that have progressed since their arrival one them perhaps that's just why they made their move.
 

bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #128
Wasps will buy CCFC
That will solve the problem. Who ever owns the stadium will always have the control and it will never be SISU.
 

singers_pore

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #129
I don't think Wasps are financially viable on their own, much less with CCFC in tow. We will have more info when the next Wasps financials are published.
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #130
pastythegreat said:
Boycotting wasps would be a start!

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Me boycotting Wasps would make no difference at all as I have never been to see them and have no interest in going. Having no interest in going in the first place is hardly a boycott, it is just a choice.

Rugby has always been popular across Warwickshire just look at the amount of clubs. Wasps have marketed themselves well, most local clubs sells Wasps tickets and get a percentage back. They also give away free tickets because they know people will still spend money on beer, pies and merchandise. Also they hope the customer likes the product and return as a paying customer. 99 per cent of the people I know who go to Wasps are rugby fans and not Coventry City fans.
 
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Gosford Green

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  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #131
Nick said:
The club yes, not sisu.
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The problem with the club is SISU they are to intertwined to the people that matter. Regardless of the 10 years of decline on the pitch the issue of the elephant sat in the room is caused by the owners.

And I do not mean Sky Blue Sam.
 
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Gosford Green

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #132
Grendel said:
Wasps want the club to sign a deal.
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Thank fuck for that then.
Is that before or after CCFC try to bankrupt them ?
 
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torchomatic

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  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #133
Gosford Green said:
Thank fuck for that then.
Is that before or after CCFC try to bankrupt them ?
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Eh? You're blaming CCFC for Wasps financial state too?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #134
Gosford Green said:
The problem with the club is SISU they are to intertwined to the people that matter. Regardless of the 10 years of decline on the pitch the issue of the elephant sat in the room is caused by the owners.

And I do not mean Sky Blue Sam.
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Yep, that's the shit people like to push to whip up the outrage to suit agendas.

40,000 people weren't there to watch SISU play at Wembley.
 
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Gosford Green

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #135
The clubs operating company is named in the court action that wants £30 million given to the council. So potentially yes.

Can not see for a moment why they have not signed a deal for next year.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #136
torchomatic said:
Eh? You're blaming CCFC for Wasps financial state too?
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According to Grendull the problem of not signing a rental agreement is with SISU. That being so, is the reason because it's a continuation of the failed distressing of ACL owners and screw CCFC and it's fans regardless of the costs both financially and emotionally policy question an unreasonable one to ask? And the way I read it that was what he was asking.
 

bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #137
Nick said:
Yep, that's the shit people like to push to whip up the outrage to suit agendas.

40,000 people weren't there to watch SISU play at Wembley.
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So who do you blame for the clubs demise since the Championship years Nick.
 

pastythegreat

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #138
Hobo said:
Me boycotting Wasps would make no difference at all as I have never been to see them and have no interest in going. Having no interest in going in the first place is hardly a boycott, it is just a choice.

Rugby has always been popular across Warwickshire just look at the amount of clubs. Wasps have marketed themselves well, most local clubs sells Wasps tickets and get a percentage back. They also give away free tickets because they know people will still spend money on beer, pies and merchandise. Also they hope the customer likes the product and return as a paying customer. 99 per cent of the people I know who go to Wasps are rugby fans and not Coventry City fans.
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I know that not everybody that goes to wasps are CCFC fans. But I know a large percentage of them are local to Coventry. Unless moving to the Ricoh found them an extra 6k of Londoners wanting to follow them?
I know people who haven't been to a Cov Rugby match in their lives but attend wasps regularly, I know CCFC fans boycotting sisu and attend wasps as a sort of protest (there are plenty on here just look), I know people who have never been to a live sporting fixture in the lives but attend wasps.
All these people are giving wasps a platform. All these people are locals who, CCFC fans or not, should have more loyalty to the 2 130year + teams this City ALREADY has over a team that's been here a couple of years and will no questions ask, fuck off at the drop of a hat at a better opportunity. Whilst they have the support of the people of the City they can't see their wrongdoing in not renewing a deal for the club the stadium was built for.

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Gosford Green

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  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #139
Nick said:
Yep, that's the shit people like to push to whip up the outrage to suit agendas.

40,000 people weren't there to watch SISU play at Wembley.
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Like I said forget about the on field decline, Wembley showed fan disengagement can be reversed with a few wins or maybe just owners who understand good PR.

The people we need for a ground next season by all accounts do not see that the club and SISU are very far apart. This was mainly "whipped" up by the clubs owners taking the clubs landlords to court.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 7, 2017
  • #140
Nick said:
Yep, that's the shit people like to push to whip up the outrage to suit agendas.

40,000 people weren't there to watch SISU play at Wembley.
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Stop talking bollocks. CCFC may be the head but SISU are the neck and it's the neck that turns the head.

It's also funny that you get a lot of the same posters who spin this shit will then come out with shit like Tim Fisher is a stooge and SISU are running the show or if we get promoted SISU will have gained us our best finish in decades etc. Want it all ways some people. It seems that SISU are the club when suits.
 
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