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Nick

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #71
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
That is the one game YOU keep on about nothing about the lack of professionalism that was missing on that day and many other times in the season stop blaming protests they are paid to do a job the other teams took advantage . I for one don't think anyone cover themselves with glory do you?
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Is that the one game I keep going on about? I don't think I've been that specific.
 

Nick

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #72
skybluetony176 said:
You were the one talking about uniting. We all go so if that's the limitation of what you consider united we already are. The only way we're not united is in protest. The majority are but you seem to relish being in the minority so if you want us to unite in some other way other than attending your welcome to join us. Unless you've got a better idea that we can unite behind you with of course.
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And people are obsessed with majority's and minorities as if that means something.

I relish supporting ccfc.
 

pastythegreat

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #73
fernandopartridge said:
Ok, what if fans did show concern? How could they turn that concern into the club actually having somewhere to play?
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Boycotting wasps would be a start!

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lifeskyblue

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #74
The only way to sustain increased numbers through the turnstiles is success. Without it the fan base will continue to decline.
We saw a one day wonder crowd at Wembley but it didn't last. Unless we get promotion this year then crowds/season ticket sales will be less next year. That's a fact of football life.


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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #75
Nick said:
And people are obsessed with majority's and minorities as if that means something.

I relish supporting ccfc.
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Again. You're the one who started talking about uniting. The majority are. You can try and dress it anyway you like but you're the one unwilling to unite while shouting unite and unable to say how we can unite while shouting unite.
 

Monkeyface

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #76
ccfcway said:
plenty of things we still haven't done.

We need to get Joy in the spotlight.

no-one go into the ground until 5 mins before kick off, resulting in a delay and everyone wear Joy masks on the way in.

Have a collection outside when everyone is hanging around, going towards a fighting fund to take out an ad in the FT commenting on how SISU capital have treated their "investment" . All fans donate a quid. Call it "a pound for the dogs" reflecting how we have been treated in the whole mess.

I still really like to idea of not attending one home game and going to Cov Rugby club, then the next home game, packing the ricoh, showing the potential. Sadly, that simply isn't going to happen now.
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We need to get Joy in the spotlight.
100% agree. My token gesture has been to stop referring to Fisher and SISU, and use Seppala when I'm bitching on social media.

no-one go into the ground until 5 mins before kick off, resulting in a delay and everyone wear Joy masks on the way in.
Agree about going in late. Not so sure about the masks, just because im too cool for that. Im sure many would join in though.

Have a collection outside when everyone is hanging around, going towards a fighting fund to take out an ad in the FT commenting on how SISU capital have treated their "investment" . All fans donate a quid. Call it "a pound for the dogs" reflecting how we have been treated in the whole mess.
Yes, yes, Yes! Get it in the Financial Times. Nick you seem quite tech savvy, do you know how to do a Go Fund Me for this? SISU and Seppala don't even have a Wikipedia page. Does anyone know how to create one?

I still really like to idea of not attending one home game and going to Cov Rugby club, then the next home game, packing the ricoh, showing the potential. Sadly, that simply isn't going to happen now.
I choose not to have a ST this year as I felt like I was legitimising their bad practice. However if that's the plan I'm in. Sure I can get the other 8 that I sit/sat with to make the effort for a one off.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #77
Nick said:
Is that the one game I keep going on about? I don't think I've been that specific.
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O yes you are, still nothing about the lack of professionalism or glory then.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #78
skybluetony176 said:
Again. You're the one who started talking about uniting. The majority are. You can try and dress it anyway you like but you're the one unwilling to unite while shouting unite and unable to say how we can unite while shouting unite.
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The majority aren't, that's the thing.

The one thing people should agree on is their love for ccfc, that should be the approach.
 

Nick

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #79
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
O yes you are, still nothing about the lack of professionalism or glory then.
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No, I haven't been specific.

If the players were an issue it makes the decision to disrupt games when we were holding on for a result even more silly then doesnt it?
 

Monkeyface

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #80
pastythegreat said:
Boycotting wasps would be a start!

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Absolutely agree. Can't believe people go myself.
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #81
skybluetony176 said:
Again. You're the one who started talking about uniting. The majority are. You can try and dress it anyway you like but you're the one unwilling to unite while shouting unite and unable to say how we can unite while shouting unite.
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Tony give it up there are some who will never unite unless it is all on there terms alone.
The groups that were set up to protest have all but disbanded many have stopped going.
Sisu and the minority have won.
No more demonstrations no more whistles no more anything.
If anything is to happen now it is up to them.

God help us.
 
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Monkeyface

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #82
Nick said:
The majority aren't, that's the thing.

The one thing people should agree on is their love for ccfc, that should be the approach.
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That's too vague.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #83
letsallsingtogether said:
Tony give it up there are some who will never unite unless it is all on there terms alone.
The groups that were set up to protest have all but disbanded many have stopped going.
Sisu and the minority have won.
No more demonstrations no more whistles no more anything.
If anything is to happen now it is up to them.

God help us.
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Uniting isn't everybody just agreeing with others shouting, it's finding something everybody agrees with.

That's what uniting is, agreement.

If people think the aims are never going to happen they won't back it.
 

Monkeyface

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #84
Nick said:
Uniting isn't everybody just agreeing with others shouting, it's finding something everybody agrees with.

That's what uniting is, agreement.

If people think the aims are never going to happen they won't back it.
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And your first idea is?...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #85
Monkeyface said:
That's too vague.
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No it isn't. People are often too wrapped up in anger they forget what they are angry about, the football.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #86
Monkeyface said:
And your first idea is?...
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I've posted plenty over the years. None would get sisu out or claim to.

I've spent hours on emails about them with people too.

Sadly people want to be angry, rather than focused on ccfc.
 

Monkeyface

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #87
Nick said:
No it isn't. People are often too wrapped up in anger they forget what they are angry about, the football.
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You know what I'm referring to. How do you suggest this "The one thing people should agree on is their love for ccfc, that should be the approach." Into an idea or an action fans can get behind.

Anyone can say "I think we should make world peace our sole focus" how you get world peace is a different matter.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #88
Nick said:
Uniting isn't everybody just agreeing with others shouting, it's finding something everybody agrees with.

That's what uniting is, agreement.

If people think the aims are never going to happen they won't back it.
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You've just completely 100% contradicted yourself in that post in your first two sentences.

Besides I would have thought that LAST's post would have cheered you up. It seems we have all united behind you. No one is doing fuck all anymore. You're dreams have all just come true.
 

Monkeyface

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #89
Nick said:
I've posted plenty over the years. None would get sisu out or claim to.

I've spent hours on emails about them with people too.

Sadly people want to be angry, rather than focused on ccfc.
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Sorry Nick I must have missed them. Can you just give me three to go with. As I've said before, no one action achieves a collective goal, but lots of different ideas will.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #90
skybluetony176 said:
You've just completely 100% contradicted yourself in that post in your first two sentences.

Besides I would have thought that LAST's post would have cheered you up. It seems we have all united behind you. No one is doing fuck all anymore. You're dreams have all just come true.
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It isn't a contradiction, "you must agree with us" with no listening or consideration of other views is not uniting.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #91
Nick said:
I just meant in this situation, the only thing that will really make them go is money
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I think you are wrong. They could have taken money long before now. I think they are ruining the club out of spite to the council. They are trying to make things uncomfortable for Wasps and the council. They tried to make a quick buck and failed. The club isn't actually costing them that much now. If they fluke an upturn lucky them. If it slowly dies, to them so what? They won't pull the plug as they want to be the victim's. But they won't bust a gut to keep it alive either.
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #92
Nick said:
Uniting isn't everybody just agreeing with others shouting, it's finding something everybody agrees with.

That's what uniting is, agreement.

If people think the aims are never going to happen they won't back it.
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So according to you everyone was united against Sisu.
If for one match everyone took part whether they agreed with the protest or not and it was legal, we would have got the message across in one swoop.
But infighting between fans crying because their perticular protest was not concidered or apparently it didn't support the team, played into the hands of our owners.

The fan base is too fractured now to do anything all those that tried to organise different protests including the marches etc have all stopped going to matches.

Well done Nick you and your kind have won, you have the peace you wanted just hope the club can survive so that our grandchildren can have a team to support.
 
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1940oldfive

Active Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #93
Monkeyface said:
You haven't given any suggestions really. List the actions that we can actually do, that you think everyone else has missed. Nothing vague like "the Trust ironing out old myths" something tangible that everyone can get behind.
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don't waste your breath! even from half a world away I can see that nick and tiny tim are singing from the same song sheet.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #94
Monkeyface said:
You know what I'm referring to. How do you suggest this "The one thing people should agree on is their love for ccfc, that should be the approach." Into an idea or an action fans can get behind.

Anyone can say "I think we should make world peace our sole focus" how you get world peace is a different matter.
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I've spent hours writing ideas of pro ccfc things on posts, some a bit shit, some might have legs.

It wouldn't be aimed at anger, it would be aimed at why people love ccfc, what ccfc means to them.

Even causing the higgs to come to a stand still with thousands going to watch the u23s would send a message and give the younger kids support. That won't get sisu out but statements can be made still by it.

People see anger and sometimes don't want to be around that environment, however (I know it isn't easy to recreate) times like Wembley it's the most United I can remember city fans. The media was forced to be positive about ccfc, the atmosphere was all about ccfc.

It would need taking some of the small positives from ccfc and trying to expand them. The stuff the jsbs and the parties are amazing, everybody can unite behind that. The legacy fund people United behind.

All things that won't make sisu go but are still ccfc.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #95
Nick said:
It isn't a contradiction, "you must agree with us" with no listening or consideration of other views is not uniting.
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"Uniting isn't just everybody agreeing"

"That's what uniting is, agreement"
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #96
Nick said:
Supporting it as much as I can through thick and thin like a lot of others do.

Providing a website where people can share information.

Providing a platform for people to discuss ccfc and reach thousands of other fans every day.
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Ok , then STOP MOANING !

And just to let you know I've supported CCFC through thick and thin for over 50 years, so I think I'm entitled
to have a rant every now and then with out being BELITTLED BY SOMEONE LIKE YOU .
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #97
1940oldfive said:
don't waste your breath! even from half a world away I can see that nick and tiny tim are singing from the same song sheet.
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Another one making an appearance, something must be going down.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #98
Hobo said:
I think you are wrong. They could have taken money long before now. I think they are ruining the club out of spite to the council. They are trying to make things uncomfortable for Wasps and the council. They tried to make a quick buck and failed. The club isn't actually costing them that much now. If they fluke an upturn lucky them. If it slowly dies, to them so what? They won't pull the plug as they want to be the victim's. But they won't bust a gut to keep it alive either.
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It's getting harder and harder to see it any other way. If the rumours about Fisher buying the club have any truth that just looks like a continuation of the bitter, twisted, two fingers up to everyone who wouldn't play their game (fans included) regardless of the cost to CCFC policy they seem to have adopted.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #99
Nick said:
No, I haven't been specific.

If the players were an issue it makes the decision to disrupt games when we were holding on for a result even more silly then doesnt it?
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So protests cost us 12 points last year that's what we were short?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #100
letsallsingtogether said:
So according to you everyone was united against Sisu.
If for one match everyone took part whether they agreed with the protest or not and it was legal, we would have got the message across in one swoop.
But infighting between fans crying because their perticular protest was not concidered or apparently it didn't support the team, played into the hands of our owners.

The fan base is too fractured now to do anything all those that tried to organise different protests including the marches etc have all stopped going to matches.

Well done Nick you and your kind have won, you have the peace you wanted just hope the club can survive so that our grandchildren can have a team to support.
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Me and my kind? The ones who will support ccfc through thick and thin?

Infighting playing into the hands of the owners? I'd never seen the fans in fight until protests, that game where the fans were against one of the protests was pretty bad.

The thing is with it all was no compromise, for example I've said by all means get financial experts and go after sisu in their world away from ccfc. Things like that, I've spent hours writing ideas after being asked for them be groups to not get a reply at all.
 

Monkeyface

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #101
Nick said:
Another one making an appearance, something must be going down.
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Come on Nick, he's having an opinion. Unity remember!
 
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Rusty Trombone

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #102
The better attended protests are good at reminding people we are still around, highlighting the mess we are in, and may keep people interested in supporting the club, and these are good reasons for them to have happened. However they have also proved that they make negligible difference to the FL, SISU, Seppala etc.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #103
Nick said:
I've spent hours writing ideas of pro ccfc things on posts, some a bit shit, some might have legs.

It wouldn't be aimed at anger, it would be aimed at why people love ccfc, what ccfc means to them.

Even causing the higgs to come to a stand still with thousands going to watch the u23s would send a message and give the younger kids support. That won't get sisu out but statements can be made still by it.

People see anger and sometimes don't want to be around that environment, however (I know it isn't easy to recreate) times like Wembley it's the most United I can remember city fans. The media was forced to be positive about ccfc, the atmosphere was all about ccfc.

It would need taking some of the small positives from ccfc and trying to expand them. The stuff the jsbs and the parties are amazing, everybody can unite behind that. The legacy fund people United behind.

All things that won't make sisu go but are still ccfc.
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We made a statement at Wembley then. And the very next week fans like you were asking where all the fickle fans are. We did that at MK Dons in the Sixfields season and fans like you were labelling us fickle and franchise supporters. We did that first game back and fans like you were asking the next week where all the fickle fans are. We do it every away game and fans like you label us fickle and financing the opposition to be more competitive than us. Can't win. You talk about unite but drive a divide.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #104
pastythegreat said:
Boycotting wasps would be a start!

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Don't go myself but what would that do?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2017
  • #105
pastythegreat said:
Boycotting wasps would be a start!

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Who goes to those games then other then rugby fans.
How many city fans attend those games?
Why don't you go to a game and stand outside handing out leaflets.
Funny the amount of people that bring that up but couldn't be bothered to attend the the protest arranged only 3 turned up You wernt one of them.
 
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