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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,836
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s a great spot
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In fact @junglej13 can’t see it - which part??
 

lordy_87

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,837
Oh fuck this for fuck sake
 

junglej13

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,838
Sky Blue Pete said:
In fact @junglej13 can’t see it - which part??
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Within the Collective Investment dashboard there appears to be committed funding of £12m to Derek Richardson - Ricoh Arena.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,839
4th line from the bottom Pete
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,840
So corrupt it's embarrassing. How will the public benefit from that in any way?

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Dominic H

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,841
@Liquid Gold are wasps still going bust after receiving £12m from WMCA
 

MusicDating

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,842
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s a great spot
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It was also in March 2022's Dashboard - https://governance.wmca.org.uk/documents/s6731/03.22 CIF Dashboard - PUBLIC.pdf

I haven't looked at all historical monthly dashboards to see when it first appeared, but seems separate from the £13m one?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,843
junglej13 said:
Within the Collective Investment dashboard there appears to be committed funding of £12m to Derek Richardson - Ricoh Arena.
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Thanks mate. Flagged it with mr Gilbert
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,844
This is how I see it might be happening.

Wasps refuse to do the pitch, outcry.
They try and push that CCFC will have to move in the media.
They announce the bailout.
It's for the good of the football club and the city because it means some of the money can go onto the pitch.
People love them and are thankful as CCFC are saved.
 
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rexo87

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,845
MusicDating said:
It was also in March 2022's Dashboard - https://governance.wmca.org.uk/documents/s6731/03.22 CIF Dashboard - PUBLIC.pdf

I haven't looked at all historical monthly dashboards to see when it first appeared, but seems separate from the £13m one?
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Anyone have any idea what this 12m is then. It says nothing has been drawn down on it so is it a draft proposal?

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,846
Nick said:
This is how I see it might be happening.

Wasps refuse to do the pitch, outcry.
They try and push that CCFC will have to move in the media.
They announce the bailout.
It's for the good of the football club and the city because it means some of the money can go onto the pitch.
People love them and are thankful as CCFC are saved.
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Maybe simply but no new pitch will be laid for this season
 

Calista

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,847
Well it says it relates to an acre of “brownfield land” – at least nobody can argue with that
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,848
junglej13 said:
Not sure if this is the right place for this but just saw on twitter someone highlighting the agenda from the West Midlands Combined Authority meeting yesterday. Within the pack at Agenda item 7 it reads as if Wasps have been granted a £12m loan.

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As mentioned by others, this is a great spot. Still classed as opportunity with 0 drawn so same as Rexo I wondered if this is at pre sign off stage (or out of date) but it is under section 1) Investments committed

Will reserve judgment until details announced but this looks horrible if it’s new loans.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,849
junglej13 said:
Not sure if this is the right place for this but just saw on twitter someone highlighting the agenda from the West Midlands Combined Authority meeting yesterday. Within the pack at Agenda item 7 it reads as if Wasps have been granted a £12m loan.

West Midlands Combined Authority

West Midlands Combined Authority
governance.wmca.org.uk
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I’m assuming this is a development fund earmarked for the hotel isn’t if?
 
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rexo87

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,850
Grendel said:
I’m assuming this is a development fund earmarked for the hotel isn’t if?
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Would maybe make sense and explain why nothing has been drawn down on it as well as the reason it's sat there for a while as I assume no funding would be drawn until work started on it

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Nick

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,851
Grendel said:
I’m assuming this is a development fund earmarked for the hotel isn’t if?
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Why would it still be in there and active? You might be right though.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,852
rexo87 said:
Would maybe make sense and explain why nothing has been drawn down on it as well as the reason it's sat there for a while as I assume no funding would be drawn until work started on it

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Its a brownfield development project so not the same as the latest application
 

edgy

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,853
It appears to be "committed" but not "drawn". And it lists 28 jobs created on 1 acres of Brownfield land.

Certainly doesnt sounds like a "loan to Wasps RFC" as such.
 
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rexo87

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,854
Wouldn't be surprised if this happens on a lot of potential developments. Funding approved and reserved for a year or so and then when nothing happens it's then taken back

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MusicDating

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,855
rexo87 said:
Would maybe make sense and explain why nothing has been drawn down on it as well as the reason it's sat there for a while as I assume no funding would be drawn until work started on it

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Yes, that looks like how the CIF works. There's a bit about an Escrow account in this article on CIF funding for the Telegraph hotel - Councillor defends spending YOUR money on unviable hotel

Note the CIF appear to give short term loans, not grants.
 

MusicDating

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,856
I think we can stand down the pitchforks gents (on this occasion anyway...)
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,857
Nick said:
Why would it still be in there and active? You might be right though.
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It will have a timescale that the work has to be authorised by before it’s withdrawn
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,858
MusicDating said:
I think we can stand down the pitchforks gents (on this occasion anyway...)
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Was about to 2 foot whoever walked into my office next.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,859
Grendel said:
It will have a timescale that the work has to be authorised by before it’s withdrawn
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Maybe they could let him draw down a slice to sort the pitch !
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,860


Coventry fans right now….
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,861
I have looked back. The dashboard from August 21 shows this £12.2 million as being for the hotel. Funds remain committed but not drawn

surely if they aren’t building the hotel, the funding should be redirected elsewhere (anywhere but Wasps).
 
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AOM

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,862
Nick said:
Was about to 2 foot whoever walked into my office next.
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edgy

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,863
It's been in the Investment Board documents since December 2021

https://governance.wmca.org.uk/documents/g450/Public%20reports%20pack%2013th-Dec-2021%2011.00%20Investment%20Board.pdf?T=10
 
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Alex1987

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,864
TBF if it's a loan, it's just kicking their troubles down the road?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,865
So I’ve angrily emailed my MP again for nothing?

hes gonna hate me
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,866
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
So I’ve angrily emailed my MP again for nothing?

hes gonna hate me
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I have just pinned a picture of Andy Street to a dart board and farted on it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,867
Alex1987 said:
TBF if it's a loan, it's just kicking their troubles down the road?
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Its nothing to do with wasos RFC as isn’t the training ground. Moonstone would receive the loan
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,868
Grendel said:
Its nothing to do with wasos RFC as isn’t the training ground. Moonstone would receive the loan
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You couldn’t make it up could you - he’s literally trying to syphon off public cash
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,869
Was it ever said that the hotel would be paid for by a loan from them?
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 16, 2022
  • #2,870
Nick said:
Was it ever said that the hotel would be paid for by a loan from them?
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Well it’s always going to be a loan. To be fair that’s the panels Job and it’s purpose
 
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