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chiefdave

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,766
IMissMAF said:
CWR pushing groundsharing. Wish they'd shut the fuck up.
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If we have to move out of the city because Wasps can't provide a pitch that's safe to play on that should be the end of Wasps in Coventry, doesn't matter if they go bust or not.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,767
usskyblue said:
Linnell got himself in a right state when I ripped into the Trust
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Hated anything questioning the Council too. One instance, he started reading a text of mine out, then went quiet, wouldn't finish it and got upset and called me out for questioning them. Same when I questioned the "dropping of the EU complaint"....
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,768
usskyblue said:
Linnell got himself in a right state when I ripped into the Trust
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'Kinnell*
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,769
AOM said:
Only heard a bit but Simon Gilbert said he thinks our offer to help with the pitch funding was to have it taken out of our rent later on so Wasps said no.

CWR say they're asking questions to all parties but Wasps are silent.

Didn't hear what was said about groundsharing
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Says it all, Wasps have been very quick to run to a compliant local media in the past, if they now refuse to speak to them you have to question why.

The idea we would just gift a pitch is complete nonsense, if we pay for it that money needs to come back one way or another.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,770
Make this offer publicly

 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,771
EalingSB said:
Speculating about playing in Leicester, Brum etc.
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The only way we're playing in Leicester is if we share with Tigers which would be slightly ironic. Leicester City have too much money to need rent of us and the extra work it would bring wouldn't be worth the hassle for them.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,772
Sky Blue Harry H said:
I think it appeared all the sudden.
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
I think it appeared all the sudden.
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Bastard
 

AOM

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,773
chiefdave said:
Says it all, Wasps have been very quick to run to a compliant local media in the past, if they now refuse to speak to them you have to question why.

The idea we would just gift a pitch is complete nonsense, if we pay for it that money needs to come back one way or another.
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The silence from them is deafening
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,774
chiefdave said:
The only way we're playing in Leicester is if we share with Tigers which would be slightly ironic. Leicester City have too much money to need rent of us and the extra work it would bring wouldn't be worth the hassle for them.
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That would be really tough as Tigers games are kept away from days when the Fuxes are playing. Can’t see it myself
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,775
chiefdave said:
The only way we're playing in Leicester is if we share with Tigers which would be slightly ironic. Leicester City have too much money to need rent of us and the extra work it would bring wouldn't be worth the hassle for them.
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Hybrid pitch?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,776
Seaside-Skyblue said:
There's lots of coming out in the media from both parties to save face, but have our owners actually picked up the phone or had a face to face with their Wasps counterparts? Need to looking them in the white of the eyes asking verbally what the bloody hell is going on. I know it sounds simple but I also wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't even happened and would rather use the media to communicate.

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Of course they have
 

usskyblue

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,777
shepardo01 said:
Hated anything questioning the Council too. One instance, he started reading a text of mine out, then went quiet, wouldn't finish it and got upset and called me out for questioning them. Same when I questioned the "dropping of the EU complaint"....
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He couldn’t bring himself to admit that the Trust weren’t mentioning the indemnity clause for a reason… which was also information that might change people’s minds about going to support the team at St. Andrews.

His assistant was so embarrassed how obtuse he got that she left me a voicemail to apologize.
 
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napolimp

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,778
chiefdave said:
The only way we're playing in Leicester is if we share with Tigers which would be slightly ironic. Leicester City have too much money to need rent of us and the extra work it would bring wouldn't be worth the hassle for them.
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Surely if we're going to ground share anywhere, it should be Milton Keynes. Great stadium, great pitch, right size, great transport links to Coventry, and our fans travel well there.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,779
pusbccfc said:
I thought CWR and Mikey did a decent job tonight. The questions he asked fans about ground sharing are totally real and possible situations.
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They’re not honestly
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,780
usskyblue said:
He couldn’t bring himself to admit that the Trust weren’t mentioning the indemnity clause for a reason… which was information that might change people’s minds about going to support the team at St. Andrews.

His assistant was so embarrassed how obtuse he got that she left me a voicemail to apologize.
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She was the production manager I think
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,781
Sky Blue Pete said:
They’re not honestly
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Exactly, the club can't take the hit on the refunds they would have to dole out
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,782
Nick said:
This one was funny too

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I can't lie , I feel almost smug sat here knowing how wrong the wanker ever was about wasps
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,783
Can Wasp not use the Alexander Stadium where the CWG was held while we have sole use of the CBS once the pitch is up to standard. Surely this could be an option as having 2 teams on there once we both get going is just going to cause havoc with the surface cone winter
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,784
David O'Day said:
Exactly, the club can't take the hit on the refunds they would have to dole out
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Ccfc have not received any ticket money yet
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,785
Gynnsthetonic said:
Can Wasp not use the Alexander Stadium where the CWG was held while we have sole use of the CBS once the pitch is up to standard. Surely this could be an option as having 2 teams on there once we both get going is just going to cause havoc with the surface cone winter
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Synthetic??
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,786
oldfiver said:
Synthetic??
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Not sure
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,787
oldfiver said:
Ccfc have not received any ticket money yet
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Season tickets
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,788
David O'Day said:
Season tickets
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Doesn't season ticket money get drawn down when games are played? Somebody on here explained how that works iirc.

They would have received the match tickets sales money surely, and that's what they are refunding.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,789
theferret said:
Doesn't season ticket money get drawn down when games are played? Somebody on here explained how that works iirc.

They would have received the match tickets sales money surely, and that's what they are refunding.
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They would still have less in a pot to take from should people have refunds.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,790
David O'Day said:
Season tickets
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No it seems
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,791
theferret said:
Doesn't season ticket money get drawn down when games are played? Somebody on here explained how that works iirc.

They would have received the match tickets sales money surely, and that's what they are refunding.
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No, unless you chose the finance option it will have left the persons account. It doesn't matter where that money is now it will still need to be refunded if we move ground and the person requests a refund. Thusly this money will be removed from the clubs income.
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,792
Happy_Martian said:
Not seen it mentioned anywhere but as we're renting the Arena from Wasps, why can't we agree with them to REDUCE the next rent payment by £500K and we put that into a new pitch ? They ultimately will have paid for it (keeps them and us happy) and we haven't gifted them anything (keeps our fans happy).
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I suspect that is what Boddy has already offered. His statement was something along the lines of helping out with the cost in the short term.
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,793
To simplify things:

Club has sold 13000 season tickets and say they are as an example £300 each.

This means the club earned £3900000 in season tickets sales.

If the club moves and say 8000 of these people decide they can not go to where ever the new ground is then this reduces the amount City have earned by £2400000. This will then leave a £2400000 hole in the budget for the running of the club.

It doesn't matter when the club may get the cash, it's the fact that they won't have that cash is the issue.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,794
David O'Day said:
No, unless you chose the finance option it will have left the persons account. It doesn't matter where that money is now it will still need to be refunded if we move ground and the person requests a refund. Thusly this money will be removed from the clubs income.
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1 / 23rd when home game has been played
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,795
Grendel said:
It would take a couple of years to complete so not a very realistic idea
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And presumably it would terminate the current lease and we’d be homeless?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,796
oldfiver said:
1 / 23rd when home game has been played
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But if we move to a different city they will have to offer full refunds for people as well if we haven't even managed a home game.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,797
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Someone really has ticked off Gilbert - he’s done a total 180…. And you know what, it’s glorious
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More to do with not working at the waspagraph anymore
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,798
David O'Day said:
To simplify things:

Club has sold 13000 season tickets and say they are as an example £300 each.

This means the club earned £3900000 in season tickets sales.

If the club moves and say 8000 of these people decide they can not go to where ever the new ground is then this reduces the amount City have earned by £2400000. This will then leave a £2400000 hole in the budget for the running of the club.

It doesn't matter when the club may get the cash, it's the fact that they won't have that cash is the issue.
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It matters when they get it as without it there’s no cash - it’s a lot less than £300 a ticket I’d assume
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,799
David O'Day said:
To simplify things:

Club has sold 13000 season tickets and say they are as an example £300 each.

This means the club earned £3900000 in season tickets sales.

If the club moves and say 8000 of these people decide they can not go to where ever the new ground is then this reduces the amount City have earned by £2400000. This will then leave a £2400000 hole in the budget for the running of the club.

It doesn't matter when the club may get the cash, it's the fact that they won't have that cash is the issue.
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Deduct 1/ 6 for VAT

They won't have the cash because ticket master hold it until game played
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 15, 2022
  • #2,800
Grendel said:
It matters when they get it as without it there’s no cash - it’s a lot less than £300 a ticket I’d assume
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£300 is an example used to simplify things

And no for the basic premise it doesn't matter when it reaches the CCFC accounts, it's simply that it doesn't reach the CCFC accounts at all.

Thanks for playing though
 
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