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theferret

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,226
I'm surprised by how so many seem to talk about Boddy with absolute certainty, a man they have never met or had any dealings with. This unique insight they have is impressive.

People talk about his iffy CV as though that's relevant to the here and now. You might argue that his recent CV is impressive, joined a 4th division club and within a few years are an established Championship club, with record ST sales, record shirt sales, a much improved tenancy agreement, big improvements at Ryton, a new ticket office and 2 retail outlets and much else that is positive.

Now, you can argue that none of this has anything to do with him, none of it, that everything positive is down to other people, not the man in charge of running the club day to day, but the negative stuff, well that's all him, after all he's the man running the club day to day.

You can take this view, but it's incredibly dishonest and is clearly personal.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,227
So how long does the pitch/ground staff need to get up to the required standard ?Could we request fixture swaps for the next 2 games . And have them played away?
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,228
Could it be ready for Wigan at home on 16th? Not looking good so far, greedy fucking Wasps taking the money and no investment it the stadium/ infrastructure.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,229
theferret said:
I'm surprised by how so many seem to talk about Boddy with absolute certainty, a man they have never met or had any dealings with. This unique insight they have is impressive.

People talk about his iffy CV as though that's relevant to the here and now. You might argue that his recent CV is impressive, joined a 4th division club and within a few years are an established Championship club, with record ST sales, record shirt sales, a much improved tenancy agreement, big improvements at Ryton, a new ticket office and 2 retail outlets and much else that is positive.

Now, you can argue that none of this has anything to do with him, none of it, that everything positive is down to other people, not the man in charge of running the club day to day, but the negative stuff, well that's all him, after all he's the man running the club day to day.

You can take this view, but it's incredibly dishonest and is clearly personal.
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many people are hostile to Tim fisher without meeting him aren’t they?
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,230
WestEndAgro said:
I'm not convinced that the game would have taken place anyway, regardless of the pitch.
I was there at 5pm on Friday and the amount of clobber still left up from the Cwg was astonishing.
I seriously don't believe it could have been removed in time.
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Thought this while driving past a minute ago with all the stuff set up outside.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,231
robbiethemole said:
Could it be ready for Wigan at home on 16th? Not looking good so far, greedy fucking Wasps taking the money and no investment it the stadium/ infrastructure.
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I wouldn’t even plan on seeing the Huddersfield game on the 20th tbh
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,232
Tommo1993 said:
I wouldn’t even plan on seeing the Huddersfield game on the 20th tbh
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We will be playing somewhere - hope trains are running
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,233
Liquid Gold said:
Amazing some people are having a go at the club/directors/owners here.

This is clear as day Wasps’ fault and they should fucking pay for it.
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Ultimately the Buck does stop there,
Liquid Gold said:
No. It’s never misguided to hate franchising when sport in this country is built on community.

Wasps owners ripped their club away from theirs and tried to exile us from ours.

I don’t give a shit if sisu gave them the opportunity. What they did was fundamentally wrong and I hope it all comes crashing down.
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Genuine question: do you want Blaze gone as well?

The reason this all seems a bit faux outrage is because there’s been no complaints about franchised teams in the city until Wasps.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,234
Grendel said:
We will be playing somewhere - hope trains are running
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I hope so
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,235
shmmeee said:
Ultimately the Buck does stop there,


Genuine question: do you want Blaze gone as well?

The reason this all seems a bit faux outrage is because there’s been no complaints about franchised teams in the city until Wasps.
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We didn't previously have an ice hockey team ?

We have a pretty famous old rugby club and a football club that have felt the effects of wasps

There is a difference mate
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,236
Evo1883 said:
We didn't previously have an ice hockey team ?

We have a pretty famous old rugby club and a football club that have felt the effects of wasps

There is a difference mate
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Then say that, don’t say you have some moral objection to franchising. Say Wasps have damaged existing clubs and show how. I’m not an egg chasing fan but Cov rugby seem to be doing OK. What’s been the impact?
 
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RyanParfrey24

New Member
  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,237
When do we realistically expect to play at home again?
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,238
shmmeee said:
Ultimately the Buck does stop there,


Genuine question: do you want Blaze gone as well?

The reason this all seems a bit faux outrage is because there’s been no complaints about franchised teams in the city until Wasps.
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False equivalence really. Ice Hockey IS a franchise sport, the teams refer to themselves as franchises, it is in the sport's DNA. Wasps were a community rugby club formed in the 1800s, not round a table in a Beefeater in the 1990s.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,239
shmmeee said:
Then say that, don’t say you have some moral objection to franchising. Say Wasps have damaged existing clubs and show how. I’m not an egg chasing fan but Cov rugby seem to be doing OK. What’s been the impact?
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You'd imagine the main impact is a few local rugby fans choosing to watch wasps over coventry , if money dictated they choose 1 , some would choose wasps as its top flight rugby

Championship crowds are up year on year so how many it's kept away who knows

Coventry crowds went up with promotion in 2018
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,240
shmmeee said:
Ultimately the Buck does stop there,


Genuine question: do you want Blaze gone as well?

The reason this all seems a bit faux outrage is because there’s been no complaints about franchised teams in the city until Wasps.
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Ice hockey is different in this country as it isn’t rooted in communities. It’s a new entity and not built by the people of the city and passed down through generations.

Quite frankly I couldn’t care if blaze stayed, won the league, folded or left. They’re a non entity in reality compared to the historical traditional clubs and sports which should never be moved.
 
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,241
RyanParfrey24 said:
When do we realistically expect to play at home again?
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Can’t see the pitch being ready til the huddersfield game - though that’s just a hunch
 
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Ashdown

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,242
shmmeee said:
Then say that, don’t say you have some moral objection to franchising. Say Wasps have damaged existing clubs and show how. I’m not an egg chasing fan but Cov rugby seem to be doing OK. What’s been the impact?
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Cov rugby have not only been fucked over by the arrival of Wasps but by the protectionism now surrounding the rugby premier league by the RFU. The same decisions that ensure Wasps have continual income and no fear of relegation .
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,243
I’m usually very optimistic but my excitement for the season has just drained massively

I don’t see how we play at home this month to be honest, farce of a situation
 
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NortonSkyBlue

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,244
procdoc said:
Even if they made the pitch playable it would be detrimental to our style of play
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I keep reading about this style of play. it didn’t matter at Tranmere. I understand we like a decent pitch but so do all other teams.
 

MAFF

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,245
RyanParfrey24 said:
When do we realistically expect to play at home again?
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we need answers and a clear plan quickly. No one will be buying tickets as things as stand. what a disaster.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,246
RyanParfrey24 said:
When do we realistically expect to play at home again?
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September minimum

I’ve resigned myself to none of the August home games
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,247
Grendel said:
many people are hostile to Tim fisher without meeting him aren’t they?
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Met both not hostile to either. Was to Tim previously for some comments about moving to Northampton
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,248
Shoul have played it at the Butts on their 4g pitch
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,249
Grendel said:
many people are hostile to Tim fisher without meeting him aren’t they?
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and you too sometimes G
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,250
Huckerby pretty vocal about it
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,251
Johnnythespider said:
Shoul have played it at the Butts on their 4g pitch
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Yes but what about the 20,000+ fans that have payed to attend this football match
 

Bugsy

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,252
Nick said:
Huckerby pretty vocal about it
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What's he said mate
 
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Balli001

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,253
Johnnythespider said:
Shoul have played it at the Butts on their 4g pitch
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Apart from the crowd and the fact 4g pitches aren't allowed in the efl then yes
 
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Ashdown

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,254
Grendel said:
it’s made a loss in all but one of the 17 years it’s been there. This is wasps whole argument. It’s a gold mine that needs turning round. It’s joke to think tin pot Sisu can do that
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I don’t think Tim pot SISU can ? But who they sell to might give it a go
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,255
TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
Can’t see the pitch being ready til the huddersfield game - though that’s just a hunch
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Doesn’t take that long to patch a pitch and get it up to speed problem we have is will the CWG lot allow us in to do it, if there are more events at the Arena I doubt they will.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,256
Balli001 said:
Apart from the crowd and the fact 4g pitches aren't allowed in the efl then yes
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I meant the 7s
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,257
Grendel said:
it’s made a loss in all but one of the 17 years it’s been there. This is wasps whole argument. It’s a gold mine that needs turning round. It’s joke to think tin pot Sisu can do that
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I thought their plan was to get someone already experienced in managing arenas to run it?
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,258
Grendel said:
Do you honestly think we can make the stadium work when everyone else has failed?

Also I don’t see the rugby club being liquidated and they have a 50 year sun lease on the stadium
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Just because they have a lease it won't stop them being liquidated surely, if they're insolvent they're insolvent.
 
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Greggs

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,259
Grendel said:
Those huge tarmac areas are £230 a go - grounds near city centres are easy as you park in the centre and walk.

there is a huge radius around it that is restricted parking - if the club were allowed to extend the original ground it’s a 15 minute walk to the car parks in the City
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Oh, I didn't realise other clubs offered free parking 200 yards from the ground.
 
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Balli001

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #1,260
Johnnythespider said:
I meant the 7s
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No chance are the commonwealth games using the butts
 
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