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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #666
Grendel said:
There will be a compensation arrangement
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You'd imagine the lease would have indemnity provisions in it that expect Wasps to pay any losses

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #667
Grendel said:
well it’s cash flow that brings businesses down as well you know

Why when you next see Boddy don’t you ask him what the documents filed at company house mean? Is it procedural or is this changing terms of the Arvo loans or short term funding.

I’d also be very curious to see his response if you ask him was last week the first time he was aware of the issues or potential issues regarding the playing surface
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I think sbb and of have confirmed there may not have been much contact
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #668
fernandopartridge said:
You'd imagine the lease would have indemnity provisions in it that expect Wasps to pay any losses

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Definitely even the wasps itks acknowledge that
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #669
Sky Blue Pete said:
I think sbb and of have confirmed there may not have been much contact
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That’s a bit odd isn’t it?
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #670
PVA said:
You have. You spent months saying Boddy will accept the first low offer, now you claim he's overvalued the players.

It's laughable.
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Grendel as a whole is laughable
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #671
Kieranp96 said:
Grendel as a whole is laughable
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To be fair the fact you two are in unison is very reassuring
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #672
Grendel said:
That’s a bit odd isn’t it?
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Yes
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #673
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yes
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Have any thoughts why that might be?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #674
Grendel said:
Have any thoughts why that might be?
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WASPs are in hiding!
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #675
Agree with some of the above. I very much enjoy the contributions of Believer but when it comes to this I'd actually like to know if it's educated guesswork or if he actually knows something specific, as this is fairly serious stuff.

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oldfiver

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #676
Grendel said:
I said he will accept the cash offer we need and he’s out his depth negotiating - let’s see what happens shall we at the end of the month
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First find a buyer who will can put up the cash or offer a lender who will fund
 

Moff

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #677
Grendel said:
That’s a bit odd isn’t it?
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Why do you think it’s odd?

They don’t get on or like each other, so why would they need regular contact.

I know you have a theory so what is it G?
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #678
Grendel said:
I said he will accept the cash offer we need and he’s out his depth negotiating - let’s see what happens shall we at the end of the month
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This is way beyond Boddys remit. Hes not negotiating anything. Hes just the public face of SISU..a nicer term for muppet.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #679
Londonccfcfan said:
This is way beyond Boddys remit. Hes not negotiating anything. Hes just the public face of SISU..a nicer term for muppet.
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He is a CCFC employee with a defined role - that does not include making the final decision on players ( in or out )
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #680
Some of the comments on here have questioned if the club would have known there were issues with the pitch for sometime.
From my experience of major games, people need to understand that once the venue is handed over to the CWG's, which happens sometime before an event, then the club would have really struggled to get any access or information.
Prior to the lock down of the CBS, then the club would have been aware that there had not been any major works on the pitch.
If the pitch is worked on so it's "safe" for games to be played, it's likely that it'll disadvantage the way we like to play with our quick passing game.
On the financial side of things. I would guess that CCFC will lose far more money from the game being postponed than any compensation.
In summary - it's a very bad situation and Wasps are culpable.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #681
Moff said:
Why do you think it’s odd?

They don’t get on or like each other, so why would they need regular contact.

I know you have a theory so what is it G?
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Vaughan and Boddy used to get on well. I suspect WASPs keeping distance until current finance problems sorted
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Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #682
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I think the issue is that now that O'Hare is no longer being sold, for the obvious reasons, the club now find thems
Londonccfcfan said:
Pitch inspection at 6pm...I'm assuming a prompt media statement within 5mins or max 10 mins.

Will there be someone with the ref?..usually groundsman (in cricket) is working with Umpires if theres a pitch ground inspection. Interesting to see how this unfolds.
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They should put it on ifollow, make a bloody fortune
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #683
Skyblueweeman said:
We can switch the game to Ashton Gate if needs be and they agree.
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Just let them have a bye into the next round, we're not going to win the cup anyway.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #684
Anybody know what the line up for the pitch inspection is?

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #685
fernandopartridge said:
Anybody know what the line up for the pitch inspection is?

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One man and his dog.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #686
fernandopartridge said:
Anybody know what the line up for the pitch inspection is?

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Martin Reeves with a grant application to replace pitch
 
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usskyblue

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #687
fernandopartridge said:
Anybody know what the line up for the pitch inspection is?
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no_loyalty

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #688
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
One man and his dog.
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Went to mow a meadow (or a football pitch)
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #689
fernandopartridge said:
Anybody know what the line up for the pitch inspection is?

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Apparently, Robins will be playing in the hole .
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #690
fernandopartridge said:
Anybody know what the line up for the pitch inspection is?

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443
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #691
Moff said:
Why do you think it’s odd?

They don’t get on or like each other, so why would they need regular contact.

I know you have a theory so what is it G?
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I don't think its weird either. They've agreed a long term rental deal then should be focused on running their respective businesses. I can't see why they need to speak often.

Once a quarter maybe. Certainly no more than once a month. And I'm sure there was probably an element of trust in them leaving the pitch in a decent state after the CGs. An expectation I guess...it didn't need DB to say 'Right Mr Wasps...make sure the grass is still decent after the Rugger 7s...OK? You cheeky little sausage'. It seems that some on here think they should be speaking daily I guess. Hey ho.

If tomorrow is called off, I can't see Bristol City going ahead at the CBS either.
 
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Paxman II

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #692
I thought a shared committee with interest was set up and filled by CCFC and WASP delegates, with the pitch responsability? It's up to that committee to engage with the CG organisers to see that said pitch is back in shape? This is not directly a WASP at fault scenario is it?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #693
Skyblueweeman said:
I don't think its weird either. They've agreed a long term rental deal then should be focused on running their respective businesses. I can't see why they need to speak often.

Once a quarter maybe. Certainly no more than once a month. And I'm sure there was probably an element of trust in them leaving the pitch in a decent state after the CGs. An expectation I guess...it didn't need DB to say 'Right Mr Wasps...make sure the grass is still decent after the Rugger 7s...OK? You cheeky little sausage'. It seems that some on here think they should be speaking daily I guess. Hey ho.

If tomorrow is called off, I can't see Bristol City going ahead at the CBS either.
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Come off it, it isn't renting an office block. You'd expect a lot of discussion in the run up to the first event of the season. The club's business is playing football and the pitch is essential to that. Unless they've got 24/7 access rights to the Arena and full control over pitch maintenance then they've got to speaking to Wasps regularly.

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PVA

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #694
Don't Rotherham have a load of injuries at the moment?

No doubt they'll have a fully fit squad for the rearranged game and we'll have about 7 injuries
 

Moff

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #695
fernandopartridge said:
Come off it, it isn't renting an office block. You'd expect a lot of discussion in the run up to the first event of the season. The club's business is playing football and the pitch is essential to that. Unless they've got 24/7 access rights to the Arena and full control over pitch maintenance then they've got to speaking to Wasps regularly.

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But if your contract to play at the stadium includes a set standard and an agreement on the maintenance and quality of the pitch, could you really see Biddy or Fisher contacting regularly to make sure it’s ok or that the grass is cut.

There has to be an element of trust, sadly it’s been completely broken.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #696
fernandopartridge said:
Come off it, it isn't renting an office block. You'd expect a lot of discussion in the run up to the first event of the season. The club's business is playing football and the pitch is essential to that. Unless they've got 24/7 access rights to the Arena and full control over pitch maintenance then they've got to speaking to Wasps regularly.

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Why? It's a match...the run 100s of them between them over the last however many years Wasps have been here. Granted its the first game of the season but they're not going to need lots of meetings for something that happens 20-30 times a season.

Being the first game, any meetings would likely be at an operational level anyway...not at Exec level.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #697
I don't really get why people think those at the top should be talking to each other on a virtually daily basis. Personally I'd take that as a sign something was wrong as things should pretty much run themselves.

Same with the pitch, I'd find it a bit odd if someone from our side was chasing Wasps every day asking about the pitch, and I'm pretty sure if I was on the Wasps staff I'd find that as annoying as fuck.

Its not unreasonable when you rent a stadium for football matches to expect a pitch that isn't unsafe to play on. Not too sure why some of our fans seem so desperate to make this the fault of anyone other than the people we rent from.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #698
PVA said:
Don't Rotherham have a load of injuries at the moment?

No doubt they'll have a fully fit squad for the rearranged game and we'll have about 7 injuries
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O’Hare took about 7 injuries in one
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #699
Skyblueweeman said:
Why? It's a match...the run 100s of them between them over the last however many years Wasps have been here. Granted its the first game of the season but they're not going to need lots of meetings for something that happens 20-30 times a season.

Being the first game, any meetings would likely be at an operational level anyway...not at Exec level.
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Boddy and Vaughan are operational level - it’s nonsense to assume that there hasn’t been any contact and we just amble up the day before to see if the goalposts are up

It’s not a Sunday league game
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #700
chiefdave said:
I don't really get why people think those at the top should be talking to each other on a virtually daily basis. Personally I'd take that as a sign something was wrong as things should pretty much run themselves.

Same with the pitch, I'd find it a bit odd if someone from our side was chasing Wasps every day asking about the pitch, and I'm pretty sure if I was on the Wasps staff I'd find that as annoying as fuck.

Its not unreasonable when you rent a stadium for football matches to expect a pitch that isn't unsafe to play on. Not too sure why some of our fans seem so desperate to make this the fault of anyone other than the people we rent from.
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So you’d just stroll up the day before?

You wouldn’t check the catering is ready? Nothing just assume it’s ok?

Why have we not just turned up tomorrow?
 
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