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Carsley the interim? (2 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Nick
  • Start date Aug 7, 2024
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Nick

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #1
Who are they waiting for?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #2
Reckon it’s holding the fort or a sneaky probation period ? I
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3
My prediction is that Carsley will get the job on an interim basis, we’ll try for Pep at the end of the season and if he says no as well as Carsley doing well, LC will get the job on a perm.

I’m surprised Potter hasn’t (seemingly) been contacted!

A like for like situation for Southgate in 2017.
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #4
Nick said:
Who are they waiting for?
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pep has been less committal when asked about his future?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #5
mate just text ‘Southgate return by Xmas’
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #6
Love that carsley has been given an opportunity
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #7
Mucca Mad Boys said:
My prediction is that Carsley will get the job on an interim basis, we’ll try for Pep at the end of the season and if he says no as well as Carsley doing well, LC will get the job on a perm.

I’m surprised Potter hasn’t (seemingly) been contacted!

A like for like situation for Southgate in 2017.
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I hope Carsley gets it permanently. Potter hasn’t done anything more than him to deserve the job. Also if you were Potter and earning a huge sum of money for sitting on a beach for the next 3 years why would you take a 50% pay cut to go to work?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #8
Sky Blue Pete said:
Love that carsley has been given an opportunity
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Worth a crack on an interim basis. Plays good football but will all depend how the big players react to him
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 7, 2024
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CJ_covblaze said:
I hope Carsley gets it permanently. Potter hasn’t done anything more than him to deserve the job. Also if you were Potter and earning a huge sum of money for sitting on a beach for the next 3 years why would you take a 50% pay cut to go to work?
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Potter, to his credit, is a brilliant tactician that could suit the role well. There are question marks how he’d manage a squad of big characters that exist in the England team.

As for Carsley, personally I’m a fan. His work in the U21 setup was really good, exciting football and adaptive to difficult situations. It would translate well to the international game. Southgate, for his fault, was England best ever manager barring Sir Alf Ramsey and Carsley actually won silverware at the age group level. It’s not a bad idea to follow Spain when they appointed de la Fuente. The big question marks over Pep and Klopp is (aside from being foreign-born) is how does their methods translate in a part-time and KO game environment. Both managers have done fine in domestic leagues but arguably, especially in Pep’s case, have underperformed at the highest level in the Champions League.

The best foreign-born manager could arguably be Tuchel and I say that despite not favouring him.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #10
Got to be Dennis Wise hasn't it..
Just joshing!
 

Robinshio

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #11
his first interim position P3 L3
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #12
Carsley did some great work for the U21 getting the best out of players like Gordon and Palmer.

If he can do the same then good luck to him!
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #13
Let him have a go and test if the pathway is working
 
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nicksar

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #14
Always thought Lee Carsley was a very good player tbh,a friend of mine told me that when he played for Everton a Real Madrid scout really rated him but dropped a bollock by recommending Thomas Graveson to Real instead.... because both he and Lee looked similar .
Anyway good luck to him in his Interim England job.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 8, 2024
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CJ_covblaze said:
I hope Carsley gets it permanently. Potter hasn’t done anything more than him to deserve the job. Also if you were Potter and earning a huge sum of money for sitting on a beach for the next 3 years why would you take a 50% pay cut to go to work?
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I suppose because Potter will eventually need to return to management at some point and 5 years of inactivity doesn’t look great with that.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #16
I’m sure it’s just a way of essentially giving him the job without upsetting people. ‘He’s just in interim charge for a few games… oh look he’s won them all so we’re giving him the job’

Obvious flaw of the plan is if he doesn’t win them all!
 
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ccfctommy

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #17
Sigh. Here we go again.

We're playing Republic of Ireland and Finland. They could have hired Steve Bruce as caretaker and won them both.

He will get it permanently. Cheap and safe option.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #18
Confirmed

Lee Carsley appointed England men's interim football manager

JACK GAUGHAN AND SAMI MOKBEL: FA chiefs have been hugely impressed by the progress of Carsley since he took the U21s position back in 2021.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #19
ccfctommy said:
Sigh. Here we go again.

We're playing Republic of Ireland and Finland. They could have hired Steve Bruce as caretaker and won them both.

He will get it permanently. Cheap and safe option.
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I don’t think any top manager actually wants the job. The best ‘high profile’ managers that would take the job would be Poch, who hasn’t won anything of note in England. Tuchel would be next up and his media management, is not suited to the job imo. How would the public react after a few bad results at the helm with a German or Argentinian at the helm? Probably not well.

Talk of Pep or Klopp was always ridiculous and even Eddie Howe has a great project at Newcastle to work with. The remaining Englishmen, you’ve got Potter, Lampard or Gerrard. Potter wouldn’t have been a bad shout but hasn’t won any major tournaments. With respect to Lampard or Gerrard, it’s only their mates in the media who think they’d do a good job - both completely unsuitable for the role at this point.

Carsley has won the U21 Euros and coached half the players in our current squad. Some of the best international in recent years have come through the national team pathways. His work with the U21 isn’t to be understated, he’s an innovative coach who plays the way people want.

This ‘safe and cheap’ trope is lazy.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #20
Time will tell , wish him all the best
 
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Otis

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #21
Evo1883 said:
Time will tell , wish him all the best
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Yeah, fine him the chance, he knows the system well.

Not advocating for him as England manager going forward, at this point, but it makes perfect sense as a temporary measure doesn't it.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 29, 2024
  • #22
experimental
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Aug 29, 2024
  • #23
Very interesting first squad from Carsley. Looks like he’s decided to reward some of his key players from his U21 team. Probably good to have some players that know him in there. Surprised Wharton hasn’t been called up but that’s the only surprising omission.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Aug 29, 2024
  • #24
Very harsh on Adam Wharton, that
 

Mr Panda

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  • Aug 29, 2024
  • #25
Angel Gomes is an interesting one and clearly been picked to get us working an actual system.

England's issue at the Euro's was an inability to work through the lines - similar to Coventry without Sheaf.

If you watch Carsley's U21 team Gomes is integral to how everything starts in possession.
 

ccfctommy

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  • Aug 29, 2024
  • #26
Skybluekyle said:
Very harsh on Adam Wharton, that
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Is he injured?
 

Otis

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  • Aug 29, 2024
  • #27
SlowerThanPlatt said:
experimental
adjective

Using new methods, ideas, substances, etc. that have not been tried before, usually in order to find out what effect they have:

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I'm pretty sure many of the players are already on substances
 
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