Carsley should be in charge last two games now... (1 Viewer)
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Otis
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No, Gaz, would say that would be a wise decision and think you can base that solely on Andy Thorn's health issues.
From what they have been saying he shouldn't even be in the dugout. Relegation is now all but confirmed and the pressure has obviously been getting to him. Let hom at least take the last two games of the season off for his health's sake if nothing else.
From what they have been saying he shouldn't even be in the dugout. Relegation is now all but confirmed and the pressure has obviously been getting to him. Let hom at least take the last two games of the season off for his health's sake if nothing else.
LastGarrison
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From a personal pride point of view, at least now give him the respect to finish the season.
Yep, agree with this.
The guy has put up with so much crap, he's given it his all, finally let some of his anger out after Tuesday, to just get rid of him now would be incredibly harsh.
Sky Blue Sheepy
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Unfortunately I think he's put himself in the shit if SISU (god forbid) remain. If I was a new owner and knew a bit about the club (like Hoffman for example) I'd give him his chief scout role back in a flash. For all the David Bells he's brought in - there have been players like Danny Fox, Scott Dann, Westwood, Gunnarsson and Juke. If SISU remain, can you see them giving him a job?
stupot07
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I can just see it now, carlsey coming in beating donny and Southampton and avoiding relegation. The fans demanding that carsley become our next permanent manager, then when we're struggling again moaning that carsley isn't experienced enough, saying we need an experienced manager.
We were only talking about this very subject on our trip home on Tues. Harrison in my opinion has been a major issue, yes we all know Thorn is tactically naive BUT never once home or away and I have been to pretty much every game this season, have I seen Harrison rant at him when he is doing nothing, "IF" Thorn goes the Harrison MUST go as well and not be allowed to keep a job he clearly seems not to care too much about. At the very least that would allow Lee in to head coaches position and put a rocket up the new manager when required.
Il Pirata
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To be fair the experienced managers we have had in the last 10 years have been excellent.
SkyBlueScottie
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I say no, and have a perfectly valid reasons for saying so.
Its a knee jerk reaction.
Its now Thursday, 2 days before a game. Any impact from Carsley will be extremely limited.
It may cause unrest in the camp on a game which we MUST WIN.
Is 2 games really fair to judge Carsley on? I mean this time last year Thorn was the overwhelming choice to be given the job.
Such decisions should not be made in haste, plus ultimately as fans we should not really be calling for such a change as ultimately we are not armed with the required info.
Its a knee jerk reaction.
Its now Thursday, 2 days before a game. Any impact from Carsley will be extremely limited.
It may cause unrest in the camp on a game which we MUST WIN.
Is 2 games really fair to judge Carsley on? I mean this time last year Thorn was the overwhelming choice to be given the job.
Such decisions should not be made in haste, plus ultimately as fans we should not really be calling for such a change as ultimately we are not armed with the required info.
covcity4life
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and you will still be there blaming everyone but the players
dongonzalos
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Can't believe this is a topic. Apart from the health part. Wonder what AT must think. You take over keep the club up. Your owners destroy what is good about the club. You are forced to play youth players. You try and keep everyone motivated and nearly get us out of it again. Then people want you sacked. Excellent
stupot07
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?? I think you have mistaken me for someone else. I think the players are hugely to blame, as are Sisu, as is AT
Otis
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Some people would like him to take two games off for his health with our fate sealed.*
Disclaimer: * Any comment by me on here is of course that of my most humble honest opinion and in no way should any statement contained within this post or thread be considered as being any kind of fact.
covcity4life
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hummmm sure you used to be a thorn apologist
stupot07
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I have never apologised for him, he's big enough to do that himself. however I can appreciated the constraints he's worked with. I think he has made mistakes this season and along with the board and the players he must take his share of the blame.
I think even the most staunch AT supporters, will say he has made mistakes and cost us points. No one sees him as a messiah.
I said before the season started that we would go down.
kingharvest
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Can i just ask - if we are looking to promote from within, then what about Gregor Rioch? Done a great job with the kids. Maybe he deserves a chance above Carsley?
Not sure i'd want to take him away from the academy of course, He's clearly doing something right so maybe not the best idea to disrupt that, but then if we're gonna be playing a load of kids next year, who better to lead them?
Just a thought.
Not sure i'd want to take him away from the academy of course, He's clearly doing something right so maybe not the best idea to disrupt that, but then if we're gonna be playing a load of kids next year, who better to lead them?
Just a thought.
Otis
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Well I would guess if it were to be Carsley, it would be Rioch too. Sure it'd be a double act.
Disclaimer: * Any comment by me on here is of course that of my most humble honest opinion and in no way should any statement contained within this post or thread be considered as being any kind of fact.
Disclaimer: * Any comment by me on here is of course that of my most humble honest opinion and in no way should any statement contained within this post or thread be considered as being any kind of fact.
covcity4life
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you did ,i remember
Otis
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Is that a fact rather than an opinion? :thinking about::thinking about:
Sorry, just getting my payback in with another poster.
kingharvest
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Johnnythespider
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I saw a programme seller giving his autograph to some young lads at the front of block 18 tues, i think he should be promoted, although he looked like he had a cold so perhaps not. :facepalm:
Mumford and Daughter
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didnt some on here say thorn was stressed but were knocked down by torch and the do gooders brigade
Paxman II
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Not trying to be 'evil' here but one reason we are where we are is because of the soft sentimental approach displayed here in these threads supporting Thorn when what matters most is our club.
There is no room for sentiment in football management. None. That you understand when you take the job.
Thorn is depressed, keeps repeating himself with delusional "we go again" rhetoric so for me given his health issues I would move him aside and let Carsly/Rioch have the job these last two games. Even just a change may bring two wins who knows but with AT in charge I doubt we would come close to getting a point.
Sorry just my opinion. Club before individual pride. It's business, nothing personal.
There is no room for sentiment in football management. None. That you understand when you take the job.
Thorn is depressed, keeps repeating himself with delusional "we go again" rhetoric so for me given his health issues I would move him aside and let Carsly/Rioch have the job these last two games. Even just a change may bring two wins who knows but with AT in charge I doubt we would come close to getting a point.
Sorry just my opinion. Club before individual pride. It's business, nothing personal.
Nonleagueherewecome
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Unless of course the health issue is being made into a bigger deal than it is by SISU to suit their excuse for getting rid of him?
Nonleagueherewecome
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If you want to go down this route, it's Rioch not Carsley you should be calling or. Carsley is learning the ropes off Rioch (and, erm Thorn, but lets ignore that, eh?) and Rioch knows an almost infinite amount more than Carsley about developing young players.
I don't think it'd work, as it didn't with Richard Money, but there's much more justification for that than Carsley, who is a recently retired player with 8 months experience as a U19 Assistant Coach under his belt. No way should he make the shortlist of even the top 50 candidates!
I don't think it'd work, as it didn't with Richard Money, but there's much more justification for that than Carsley, who is a recently retired player with 8 months experience as a U19 Assistant Coach under his belt. No way should he make the shortlist of even the top 50 candidates!
Why the feck would we possibly want to put Carsley in charge of anything, no experience, no different players to work with, it would be clutching at straws................and please don't promote him next season in League One either, we need a manager who knows how to work at that level.
rob9872
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And can you imagine the outcry if we win those games, regardless of if he has any real input at such a late stage and Thorn is then re-appointed?
