Transfer Rumour #CARLBAKERDAY (1 Viewer)

steve82 · Aug 24, 2017

shmmeee said:
Homegrown kids aren’t included in FFP are they?

better days said:
The two fringe keepers both came from Arsenal's Academy
Not sure about the full details of FFP for home grown players but the DKE's and the likes of Jordan Shipley and Pontichelli could benefit from a few months playing men's football on loan

SCMP (League 1 & 2)

"Wage costs for Youth players on a professional contract are also excluded (i.e. players that have been in the club’s Youth Development scheme and have been given a pro contract); they must be 20 years of age or under at the start of the season to be discounted from the SCMP calculation."

At a guess those excluded from SCMP are both DKE twins, Stevenson, Shiperly, Addai, Maycock, Lahey, Hickman, Camwell, Ford, Finn, Thompson, Bayliss and Ponticelli should be too

better days · Aug 24, 2017

steve82 said:
SCMP (League 1 & 2)

"Wage costs for Youth players on a professional contract are also excluded (i.e. players that have been in the club’s Youth Development scheme and have been given a pro contract); they must be 20 years of age or under at the start of the season to be discounted from the SCMP calculation."

At a guess those excluded from SCMP are both DKE twins, Stevenson, Shiperly, Addai, Maycock, Lahey, Hickman, Camwell, Ford, Finn, Thompson, Bayliss and Ponticelli should be too

Pretty sensible rule

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Aug 24, 2017

Otis said:
I'm going to get my named Baker City shirt done straight away and then if he doesn't come I'll just start a campaign to try and get Buck's Fizz back together again.

Nick · Aug 24, 2017

Has he signed yet?

Liquid Gold · Aug 24, 2017

#bakesisback

wingy · Aug 24, 2017

#bakesoff.

stevefloyd · Aug 24, 2017

Hylda Baker

Hobo · Aug 25, 2017

Is he replacing Mary Berry?

chiefdave · Aug 25, 2017

Somerset Sky Blue · Aug 25, 2017

According to the Portsmouth news, Baker has been told he can leave, as it will free up more money for the manager. Kenny Jacket has said that if he isn't gone by Thursday (not in match squad tomorrow) he will have to fight for a place. Made a point of saying that Baker still has an excellent attitude.
Baker has said he will go if they pay him / receives similar contract BUT he isn't just going to leave as he needs to earn a living. Baker says it is all up to the club - he doesn't want to stay if not wanted / going to be used, but can't afford to just walk!
Manager has also said they have heard nothing from Coventry.
Not clear if MR wants him, but looks like a polite standoff at present, between Pompey and Baker.
Still unclear on his return or not (can MR only afford it with no fee/small signing on fee, does he still need to reduce wage bill - and, of course, does he want him?).

vow · Aug 25, 2017

Baker in stand-off with Pompey
As Somerset says, it's all down to negotiating an offer between Baker & Pompey to release him, but he say's he'll stay if that offer isn't forthcoming.
Some interesting cohesive comments below the piece too, unlike our beloved CT!

Somerset Sky Blue · Aug 25, 2017

vow said:
Baker in stand-off with Pompey
As Somerset says, it's all down to negotiating an offer between Baker & Pompey to release him, but he say's he'll stay if that offer isn't forthcoming.
Some interesting cohesive comments below the piece too, unlike our beloved CT!

Thanks for putting link up - not sure how to do on mobile!

chiefdave · Aug 25, 2017

Fair play to him for being honest about it. Still can't work it out. Why was Jackett banging on in the summer that Baker was part of his plans if he wanted rid of him? He then starts the season before being kicked out of the squad right before kick off last week and told not to travel this week.

Not sure I buy the idea they need to get Baker out to free up money to bring someone in. He's under contract so they'll have to pay him off, how will that free up any money.

What is he now, 35? Probably only got a year or two left and doubt he's in a position to be sorted for life so why would he walk away for nothing when he is under contract?

Equally it wouldn't make sense for us, or anyone else, to offer to match the contract when Pompey are going to have to give him a pay off to leave and you could potentially get him on a lower wage.

If he gets a pay off from that could see him coming in as a part time player transitioning into a coaching role. Think he's done some of his badges so is looking to go down that route.

vow · Aug 25, 2017

chiefdave said:
Fair play to him for being honest about it. Still can't work it out. Why was Jackett banging on in the summer that Baker was part of his plans if he wanted rid of him? He then starts the season before being kicked out of the squad right before kick off last week and told not to travel this week.

Not sure I buy the idea they need to get Baker out to free up money to bring someone in. He's under contract so they'll have to pay him off, how will that free up any money.

What is he now, 35? Probably only got a year or two left and doubt he's in a position to be sorted for life so why would he walk away for nothing when he is under contract?

Equally it wouldn't make sense for us, or anyone else, to offer to match the contract when Pompey are going to have to give him a pay off to leave and you could potentially get him on a lower wage.

If he gets a pay off from that could see him coming in as a part time player transitioning into a coaching role. Think he's done some of his badges so is looking to go down that route.

We've paid a few player's off in our time, "Bomb Squad" anyone! I feel he won't be asking for the full year, but some negotiation/wiggle room to decide how much Pompey will give him.

I hope he gets it sorted for his own sake, even if he doesn't come to us, but I hope he will.

I read somewhere he's doing his UEFA B Licence, so an added coach to City's staff ,as you say Chief, however he's also into his health and fitness (big time) it seems too, looking at his twitter page, so he obviously looks after himself, so could play for 1-2 seasons at least.

better days · Aug 25, 2017

Seems like both sides are adopting their negotiating positions
I suspect Jackett was hoping to get a significant transfer payment
We won't pay one but I suspect Baker will come anyway before the window closes

oucho · Aug 25, 2017

I doubt he will join us. There, I said it.

Grendel · Aug 25, 2017

better days said:
Seems like both sides are adopting their negotiating positions
I suspect Jackett was hoping to get a significant transfer payment
We won't pay one but I suspect Baker will come anyway before the window closes

No one would pay ten pence for baker. We were the only club they ever paid a fee for him weren't we?

skybluedan · Aug 25, 2017

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:

Cheryl was a bit of a sort eh

skybluedan · Aug 25, 2017

oucho said:
I doubt he will join us. There, I said it.

You bastard

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Aug 25, 2017

skybluedan said:
Cheryl was a bit of a sort eh

coop · Aug 26, 2017

Baker not even on the bench welcome back Carl.

Otis · Aug 26, 2017

He'll be in the crowd in his City til I die t shirt though.

Adge · Aug 26, 2017

Spotted outside Huish park in his Yeovil top at full time.

sw88 · Aug 29, 2017

Robins immigrated post match he may have won the lottery since Saturday (when he ruled out anymore business).

Wonder if the Massiah is finally on his way back?

#CarlBakerDay

Nick · Aug 29, 2017

sw88 said:
Robins immigrated post match he may have won the lottery since Saturday (when he ruled out anymore business).

Wonder if the Massiah is finally on his way back?

#CarlBakerDay

Brexit and the immigrants

oucho · Aug 30, 2017

sw88 said:
Wonder if the Massiah is finally on his way back?

I never left mate

BigadamL · Aug 30, 2017

I will hold my hands up if I'm wrong but I can't see him doing anything special if/when he comes back, can't see what all the fuss is about.

Nick · Aug 30, 2017

Grendel · Aug 30, 2017

Whose Davies?

Nick · Aug 30, 2017

Centre half apparently.

Adge · Aug 30, 2017

oucho said:
I never left mate

Na-he means me.

oucho · Aug 30, 2017

BigadamL said:
I will hold my hands up if I'm wrong but I can't see him doing anything special if/when he comes back, can't see what all the fuss is about.

Agreed - given his first spell its' hard to see what all the fuss is about.

#SHFWF

Somerset Sky Blue · Aug 30, 2017

oucho said:
Agreed - given his first spell its' hard to see what all the fuss is about.

#SHFWF

I'll take the bait, as it I'd baker day (rename thread to baker summer?)

Statbunker says his time at Pompey, MK and Cov yielded 52 goals and 37 assists from 299 appearances (inc 68 as sub).

High number of appearances suggest he is fit and not injury prone, decent set piece taker, certainly very experienced in the football league, including a few promotions, he would be a positive influence on younger players, (may want to coach - though wouldn't sign for this reason alone), and, crucially, wants to play for us.

Of course, he is 34, not getting any quicker and could we do better? Any signing made in the next few days needs to boost our chance of promotion this year rather than focus on young players we can develop in a few.

I don't believe he will singlehandedly guarantee promotion (very few will at this level/money we will be offering), but he will add to our team/squad.

Down to MR in terms of what he needs (especially if anyone is going out the door), but I would welcome him back.

Finally, of course he is not the messiah, he is a very naughty boy!

oucho · Aug 30, 2017

I agree he's likely to be better on his day than Vincenti, who would be the player he'd most likely replace in the line-up. That said, when he was here "his day" was once in about every 10 games.

Somerset Sky Blue · Aug 30, 2017

A bit harsh - perhaps his 'day' is more one in 5 or 6...have we many others who will meet this?
Doyle will be more consistent, but less likely to win a game.
More importantly, when it isn't their 'day' who will add most - Baker, Vinc - or other?

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