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Match Thread Cardiff City - Coventry City Match Thread - Wednesday 1st Jan (5 Viewers)

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Nick

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,066
Flying Fokker said:
Very angry Cardiff fan passed me on the way out.

“It’s hard 10 men playing against 12, the fucking ref must be on your payroll”. Stomp, stomp…

I’m not sure I’d be angry enough to mouth off to an opposing team’s supporters.
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To be fair he had a point. The sending off was very soft.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,067
CovValleyBoy said:
Got us a point nearly got a winner.
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Yes he contributed to our goal by shooting and it coming back off the keeper
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,068
Evo1883 said:
He had 29 touches , a 65% pass completion and 2 shots on goal and was dispossessed 3 times


He had the joint lowest outfield rating on out team
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That's what happens when you try to decide just based on stats though.
 
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covmark

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,069
Saddlebrains said:
'They tried hard'
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You think no one is trying?
 

larry_david

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,070
Gibbo said:
I really hate comments like this. Really hate them and there are several others above of a similar ilk. Call yourselves supporters. They are a football team - they tried hard - they weren't good enough. You really do need to lighten up
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Don't quote me with this! I am sick of them and until the sort themselves out ill continue to be bloody sick of them
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,071
covmark said:
You think no one is trying?
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this place gets weirder by the minute. Today was shite and there is a long list of terms that could be used to describe how they played, but “they didn’t try” is not one of them.

I don’t even think they’re half as bad as people are making out- something is rotten in there but it’s not that they’re all just rubbish.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,072
Gibbo said:
Well self evidently they did - you clearly weren't watching
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I watched the lot. I recorded a 35 second segment (cant upload videos on here for some reason) of our 'movement' when Cardiff were sat in

It was lazy, ponderous and virtually none existent. It was the bare minimum, and If that's something you class as trying then I give up
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,073
Nick said:
That's what happens when you try to decide just based on stats though.
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Well I didn't see him holding up well , bring others into play , create or press too much , his passing is generally poor too

He did well to chase and have the shot which the keeper saved for saka to tap in but can't think of much else
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,074
Saddlebrains said:
I watched the lot. I recorded a 35 second segment (cant upload videos on here for some reason) of our 'movement' when Cardiff were sat in

It was lazy, ponderosa virtually none existent. It was the bare minimum, and If that's something you class as trying then I give up
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if they “didn’t try” we’d have got absolutely tonked. Ridiculous thing to be saying.
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,075
I thought the ref was excellent. Didn't have much prep time.
Blatant sending off. Can't smash your elbow into face. Reckless & apologised immediately
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,076
covmark said:
You think no one is trying?
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I don't believe they are playing at 100% effort and ability no. And i don't think they have for a while
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,077
bukayosakamoto said:
I despise Perry Ng and I don't know why, I think it's the fact he has two letters for a last name
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I also have an irrational hatred of the bloke.
 

Matt smith

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,078
Saddlebrains said:
I watched the lot. I recorded a 35 second segment (cant upload videos on here for some reason) of our 'movement' when Cardiff were sat in

It was lazy, ponderosa virtually none existent. It was the bare minimum, and If that's something you class as trying then I give up
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Any insights into the transfer window coming up
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,079
Ring Of Steel said:
if they “didn’t try” we’d have got absolutely tonked. Ridiculous thing to be saying.
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Didnt say they didnt try


I'm saying they aren't putting in 100% of the effort they're capable of

And if they are, they are just lacking any sort of tactical brains
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,080
Matt smith said:
Any insights into the transfer window coming up
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Mixed signals tbh

Was told he would be backed a couple of weeks back

Word now is it's 1 in 1 out so fuck knows
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,081
Saddlebrains said:
Mixed signals tbh

Was told he would be backed a couple of weeks back

Word now is it's 1 in 1 out so fuck knows
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To be fair if it means we get rid of some of the dross I’d take that
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,082
CovValleyBoy said:
I thought the ref was excellent. Didn't have much prep time.
Blatant sending off. Can't smash your elbow into face. Reckless & apologised immediately
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Obvious trolling aside, I actually think he done well. Didn't pander to the crowd for soft challenges after making the mistake on the red card. Only thing he got wrong after that was the Sakamoto shot which should have been a corner.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,083
Evo1883 said:
Well I didn't see him holding up well , bring others into play , create or press too much , his passing is generally poor too

He did well to chase and have the shot which the keeper saved for saka to tap in but can't think of much else
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I’m gonna bite. Holding up he did fine and did hold the ball well. This isn’t me being biased this time. Pressing leaves some to be desired and passing very hit and miss. His fit colleagues have been doing no better though.

And holding up the ball as a lone striker IS FUCKING POINTLESS NO MATTER WHO’S DOING IT!!
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,084
Pretty damning assessment by Frank. ‘some quality’ ….

“We know there’s some quality and potential in the squad but there are a lot of things it takes to win football matches regularly in this league and the first half performance we gave, you will lose pretty much every time if you perform like that.”
 
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ptr

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,085
Saddlebrains said:
Mixed signals tbh

Was told he would be backed a couple of weeks back

Word now is it's 1 in 1 out so fuck knows
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Think he would’ve been backed I’d he’d got a couple more wins and we were closer to play offs. Rebuild has to start in Jan though…then get it done early summer. We simply cannot leave it all u til the summer.
 
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Adge

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,086
Matt smith said:
To be fair if it means we get rid of some of the dross I’d take that
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Yeah-1 in and 10 out would do!
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,087
Evo1883 said:
Well I didn't see him holding up well , bring others into play , create or press too much , his passing is generally poor too

He did well to chase and have the shot which the keeper saved for saka to tap in but can't think of much else
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Had a header saved. Rebound should of been finished by Assante.
His holding up work was ok imo. Encouraged by his all round game today.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,088
Tommo1993 said:
I’m gonna bite. Holding up he did fine and did hold the ball well. This isn’t me being biased this time. Pressing leaves some to be desired and passing very hit and miss. His fit colleagues have been doing no better though.

And holding up the ball as a lone striker IS FUCKING POINTLESS NO MATTER WHO’S DOING IT!!
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Il let you bite because I like you Watson
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,089
CovValleyBoy said:
Had a header saved. Rebound should of been finished by Assante.
His holding up work was ok imo. Encouraged by his all round game today.
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Maybe I was at the toilet and missed it
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,090
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Pretty damning assessment by Frank. ‘some quality’ ….

“We know there’s some quality and potential in the squad but there are a lot of things it takes to win football matches regularly in this league and the first half performance we gave, you will lose pretty much every time if you perform like that.”
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I thought he came across well in the interview. Now he has the chance to do something about it.
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,091
Potbellypig said:
Obvious trolling aside, I actually think he done well. Didn't pander to the crowd for soft challenges after making the mistake on the red card. Only thing he got wrong after that was the Sakamoto shot which should have been a corner.
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Yeah. Deserves promotion to Championship rosta on that performance.
If not already.
 

Adge

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,092
ptr said:
Think he would’ve been backed I’d he’d got a couple more wins and we were closer to play offs. Rebuild has to start in Jan though…then get it done early summer. We simply cannot leave it all u til the summer.
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I can’t see it being a major window in January. I’m confident we are not going up or down so we may as well just bumble along till the summer-however frustrating that may be. We can then hopefully do a bit more surgery then.
That’s all well and good though if we then hit the ground running regarding the new additions. Look how long it took EMC to get going.
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,093
To be fair I think the lack of EMC and Wright is hurting us massively, not just the lack of goals but general play.

They are the ones that stretch the pitch, defenders have to drop off a yard otherwise they risk being beaten and letting them through on goal.

Rudoni naturally wants to drop deeper and get the ball into feet when he plays there, and doesn't have the pace to trouble the defence in that way anyway. And Sakamoto on the other side has never been about that, his game is trickery and link up play.

That all means that at the moment opposition defences feel comfortable squeezing us up the pitch, leaving less space in midfield which our midfielders cannot deal with at all, and that's caused the issues we've seen vs Millwall and today where we just look awful because there's no movement forward.

Still think Bassette on the left would be a better solution. I think we'll look much better when one or both are back. Doesn't excuse these performances though. MVE, Sheaf and Eccles were nowhere near the levels we know they can be today and the rest are yet to prove they can consistently reach the level we need.
 
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Monty

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,094
CovValleyBoy said:
Had a header saved. Rebound should of been finished by Assante.
His holding up work was ok imo. Encouraged by his all round game today.
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He grew into it. A little more confidence ro shoot not take the extra touch and he may have scored 2 today. Looks more likely to score than Bassette but Nbassette puts more pressure on the defenders and creates more space for others
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,095
Evo1883 said:
He had 29 touches , a 65% pass completion and 2 shots on goal and was dispossessed 3 times


He had the joint lowest outfield rating on out team
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What's the point on judging Simms based on today where for the majority of the game we couldn't progress the ball further than our centre backs and defensive midfielder?
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,096
ptr said:
Think he would’ve been backed I’d he’d got a couple more wins and we were closer to play offs. Rebuild has to start in Jan though…then get it done early summer. We simply cannot leave it all u til the summer.
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We need to churn at least 14 players
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,097
skybluecam said:
What's the point on judging Simms based on today where for the majority of the game we couldn't progress the ball further than our centre backs and defensive midfielder?
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We did second half though ?
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,098
Evo1883 said:
We did second half though ?
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Did we?

Sheaf and the centre backs were still passing to each other over and over, just 30 yards further up the pitch
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,099
skybluecam said:
Did we?

Sheaf and the centre backs were still passing to each other over and over, just 30 yards further up the pitch
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Don't make me use XG on your ass
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #2,100
Great_Expectations said:
Don’t agree, but fair play for answering the question.
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Not Paxman?
 
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