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chiefdave

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  • Jul 16, 2020
  • #106
duffer said:
Labour not doing enough to kick out the odd nutter is certainly a point of concern, but let’s not kid ourselves that the main stream media isn’t far more interested in highlighting those stories than it is in exposing the storied history of Tory islamophobia (for example).
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Be interesting to see what happens with the Labour antisemitism issue if the rumours swirling around at the moment are true.

Rumour doing the rounds on social media is that Starmer is planning to issue a formal apology and settle the Panorama defamation case despite being advised by party lawyers that they are likely to win in court. Alongside that there's also whisperings that the draft version of the EHRC report the party has received is far from the 'smoking gun' it was expected to be.

Add in the ongoing issue of a perceived lack of action from Starmer regarding the leaked report into the handling of antisemitism, in particular the party working against its own leader, and its not much of a stretch to see the left of the party seizing on it.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 16, 2020
  • #107
chiefdave said:
Be interesting to see what happens with the Labour antisemitism issue if the rumours swirling around at the moment are true.

Rumour doing the rounds on social media is that Starmer is planning to issue a formal apology and settle the Panorama defamation case despite being advised by party lawyers that they are likely to win in court. Alongside that there's also whisperings that the draft version of the EHRC report the party has received is far from the 'smoking gun' it was expected to be.

Add in the ongoing issue of a perceived lack of action from Starmer regarding the leaked report into the handling of antisemitism, in particular the party working against its own leader, and its not much of a stretch to see the left of the party seizing on it.
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I'd be amazed if an ex-lawyer decided to issue a formal apology and settle if there's a highly likely chance they'd win the case. Why make the party look guilty and give people a stick to beat you with on historic racism when you can likely prove legally you're not?
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 16, 2020
  • #108
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I'd be amazed if an ex-lawyer decided to issue a formal apology and settle if there's a highly likely chance they'd win the case. Why make the party look guilty and give people a stick to beat you with on historic racism when you can likely prove legally you're not?
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because he wants to put a clear line between him and Corbyn. I don't agree with it but that's why he'll go down that route.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 16, 2020
  • #109
skybluetony176 said:
More cancel culture from the government

Russia report: New intelligence committee chair loses Tory whip

Tory MP Julian Lewis beats Chris Grayling to win the position, but loses his place in the parliamentary party.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Stunning coincidence that the day after the government fail to get the person they hand picked to lead the Intelligence and Security Committee and oversee the Russia report we finally get a statement in parliament about Russian interference in the 2019 election.
"The government has concluded that it is almost certain that Russian actors sought to interfere in the 2019 General Election"
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 16, 2020
  • #110
chiefdave said:
Stunning coincidence that the day after the government fail to get the person they hand picked to lead the Intelligence and Security Committee and oversee the Russia report we finally get a statement in parliament about Russian interference in the 2019 election.
"The government has concluded that it is almost certain that Russian actors sought to interfere in the 2019 General Election"
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Being finally published next week after sitting on the PM’s desk since October.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 16, 2020
  • #111
clint van damme said:
because he wants to put a clear line between him and Corbyn. I don't agree with it but that's why he'll go down that route.
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Just seems very odd because as it'd be him making the apology it'd be inextricably linked in many peoples mind to him. He'd effectively be getting some people to link him to anti-semitism unnecessarily.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 16, 2020
  • #112
chiefdave said:
Stunning coincidence that the day after the government fail to get the person they hand picked to lead the Intelligence and Security Committee and oversee the Russia report we finally get a statement in parliament about Russian interference in the 2019 election.
"The government has concluded that it is almost certain that Russian actors sought to interfere in the 2019 General Election"
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Part of me is pleased that at least it's n ot a whitewash and just 'nothing to see here' but at the same time you've got to ask why was this sat on for so long. Anyone bothered about democratic process would want this known.

I very much doubt it implicates any of our politicians as it's outside interference and there would be links to both sides of the house in terms of friendships/busines relationships etc.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 17, 2020
  • #113
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Part of me is pleased that at least it's n ot a whitewash and just 'nothing to see here' but at the same time you've got to ask why was this sat on for so long. Anyone bothered about democratic process would want this known.

I very much doubt it implicates any of our politicians as it's outside interference and there would be links to both sides of the house in terms of friendships/busines relationships etc.
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I’d imagine it will be the usual. Awkward but not a smoking gun and they’ll talk their way out of most of the criticism. They were probably just saving it as a dead cat.


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clint van damme

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  • Jul 17, 2020
  • #114
djr8369 said:
I’d imagine it will be the usual. Awkward but not a smoking gun and they’ll talk their way out of most of the criticism. They were probably just saving it as a dead cat.


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There's already been a report, I think it was by the digital culture and media department or whatever it's called. Th at was quite damning.
Bit interesting to see if this one differs.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 19, 2020
  • #115
skybluetony176 said:
Being finally published next week after sitting on the PM’s desk since October.
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Or maybe not. Can't imagine why Arron Banks would be taking legal action to block its publication. I mean he's always denied any links to Russia so surely he has nothing to worry about.
 
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