Talking about the Kelly situation in isolation without going into the rest of it, its pretty clear most didn't recognise the loss, even the management lets be honest. Not even saying we should have kept him, you don't keep someone on a contract just because they are a good character if they are past it... but clearly more thought should have been put into replacing the voice/character part of Kelly, Fadz and co...I don’t agree with this- not everyone did. It’s more that someone starts shouting and going mad saying “he’s garbage”, “he’s L2 level”, “nobody else would sign him”, then that becomes the accepted wisdom on here and everyone piles on because it’s the cool thing to say. Like Simms last season, and like now with it now becoming cool to paint Robins as worse than he was, make out that we spent £45m with nothing coming back in, and going around shouting that we’re in a relegation battle in November.
It’s now just about ‘instant success’, ‘entertain me’- and if that doesn’t happen then we scream and shout, calling everyone shit & demand sackings and that players are binned off.
You can argue that most football fans are like that, but we didn’t use to be and it’s sad to see we’re now just like the rest.
It seems we’ve quickly become a poor championship team with a high wage bill.I just hope we aren’t turning into Stoke
. There were no signs latterly under MR that anything was improving
It does seem strange that the management have lost sight of experience within the squad over the last couple of years when going back to the League 2 season we've had those big voices making a difference. Seems weird that that has been lost over the last 18 months and the focus seems to be purely on potentialTalking about the Kelly situation in isolation without going into the rest of it, its pretty clear most didn't recognise the loss, even the management lets be honest. Not even saying we should have kept him, you don't keep someone on a contract just because they are a good character if they are past it... but clearly more thought should have been put into replacing the voice/character part of Kelly, Fadz and co...
You say this, yet still 90% of posters on here did not want MR sacked and that seems to be reflected among the wider fan base.I don’t agree with this- not everyone did. It’s more that someone starts shouting and going mad saying “he’s garbage”, “he’s L2 level”, “nobody else would sign him”, then that becomes the accepted wisdom on here and everyone piles on because it’s the cool thing to say. Like Simms last season, and like now with it now becoming cool to paint Robins as worse than he was, make out that we spent £45m with nothing coming back in, and going around shouting that we’re in a relegation battle in November.
It’s now just about ‘instant success’, ‘entertain me’- and if that doesn’t happen then we scream and shout, calling everyone shit & demand sackings and that players are binned off.
You can argue that most football fans are like that, but we didn’t use to be and it’s sad to see we’re now just like the rest.
The Derby game was proper play off form.Other than the fact we were in playoff form just before he was sacked of course.
The Derby game was proper play off form.
If we’re sacking managers after a performance like Derby alone I await the new manager odds with interest.
Of course it was solely the Derby performance. Nothing to do with the games that preceded it over a timespan of months .If we’re sacking managers after a performance like Derby alone I await the new manager odds with interest.
Of course it was solely the Derby performance. Nothing to do with the games that preceded it over a timespan of months .
Before the Derby game we were one of the form teams. We’d won 3 drawn 1 from the last 6, 10 points.
I'd like to point out that not everyone who thought Robins needed moving on thinks we've wasted £45 million on players, in fact that is a view often held by what seems to be the 'other camp'. There are of course those who think absolutely everything is wrong, that's not a view i'm on board with. Bit of time for the new management and an opportunity to straighten out the squad slightly over the next window or 2 and i think we'll be a force again. This is my hope anyway.You say this, yet still 90% of posters on here did not want MR sacked and that seems to be reflected among the wider fan base.
Yeah, would agree with that and we have to give Lampard time now.I'd like to point out that not everyone who thought Robins needed moving on thinks we've wasted £45 million on players, in fact that is a view often held by what seems to be the 'other camp'. There are of course those who think absolutely everything is wrong, that's not a view i'm on board with. Bit of time for the new management and an opportunity to straighten out the squad slightly over the next window or 2 and i think we'll be a force again. This is my hope anyway.
We haven't, a waste would suggest we'd get nothing back from it and that's simply not true. It's just a bit unbalanced.Yeah, would agree with that and we have to give Lampard time now.
I personally don't think we have wasted all that money.
I think there’s big problems with these players and frankly I’ve got no trust in them as a group.I'd like to point out that not everyone who thought Robins needed moving on thinks we've wasted £45 million on players, in fact that is a view often held by what seems to be the 'other camp'. There are of course those who think absolutely everything is wrong, that's not a view i'm on board with. Bit of time for the new management and an opportunity to straighten out the squad slightly over the next window or 2 and i think we'll be a force again. This is my hope anyway.
They've lost confidence, or at least a lot of them have, but there's some good players there.I think there’s big problems with these players and frankly I’ve got no trust in them as a group.
And what about the games preceding that ? Cherry picking the bits which hide the whole pictureBefore the Derby game we were one of the form teams. We’d won 3 drawn 1 from the last 6, 10 points.
I agree they can’t possibly be as bad as what they’re showing. Alarmingly bad from some of them though.They've lost confidence, or at least a lot of them have, but there's some good players there.
The defence is alarmingly bad and i think its affecting the rest of the team in a big way. Needs sorting out for sure.I agree they can’t possibly be as bad as what they’re showing. Alarmingly bad from some of them though.
I can accept the information overload explaining some of the problems on Saturday, but that still doesn’t account for yet again conceding a free header from 6 yards at a corner.The defence is alarmingly bad and i think its affecting the rest of the team in a big way. Needs sorting out for sure.
Dovin needs to go in and stay in, even if he's mediocre he's beating out the other 2 so just stick with him ffs.I can accept the information overload explaining some of the problems on Saturday, but that still doesn’t account for yet again conceding a free header from 6 yards at a corner.
At least it confirms to me that Dovin should reclaim his spot next game. That guy has already been seriously messed around for someone we invested a fair chunk of money in.
I’d be fuming if I was Dovin tbh. He has been treated pretty badly so far, pretty shocking way to handle a multi million pound investment.I can accept the information overload explaining some of the problems on Saturday, but that still doesn’t account for yet again conceding a free header from 6 yards at a corner.
At least it confirms to me that Dovin should reclaim his spot next game. That guy has already been seriously messed around for someone we invested a fair chunk of money in.
The defence is alarmingly bad and i think its affecting the rest of the team in a big way. Needs sorting out for sure.
Well no its not but they are so bad the jitters spread throughout the team. I can't name a single defender who i think has been good this season. It's not just them, i mean Sheaf for example has been well below par this season, buts its a real poor show from them. Add in the messing about with keepers too and its all a bit of a mess.And it's not just the defenders contributing to how bad we are defensively.
Well no its not but they are so bad the jitters spread throughout the team. I can't name a single defender who i think has been good this season. It's not just them, i mean Sheaf for example has been well below par this season, buts its a real poor show from them. Add in the messing about with keepers too and its all a bit of a mess.
And what about the games preceding that ? Cherry picking the bits which hide the whole picture
"Nice kitty" *dies*The defenders have been poor, no doubt, but our midfield aren't really helping.
If you wrapped Sheaf in sirloin steak and threw him in a tiger enclosure he wouldn't sense the danger.
Immediately prior to the sacking was another stinker of a home performance.The entire point was the form we were in immediately prior to the sacking. I’m not the one moving goalposts.
Immediately prior to the sacking was another stinker of a home performance.
Neither am I . 7 points from 6 games - is that a play off run of form ? Like I say cherry pick the number of games that suits your agenda , ignore the recent dross before that.The entire point was the form we were in immediately prior to the sacking. I’m not the one moving goalposts.
You have tried to airbrush those who have signed and sanctioned the players coming in. You tried to make out they were the choice of Robins although offering no evidence.Airbrushing the game is ridiculous. Include the game and its 7 points from 6 games and a consistent tally with the season as a whole.
Neither is the 3 you are cherry picking. Really boring in every thread.One game isn’t form.
Neither is the 3 you are cherry picking. Really boring in every thread.
Seems to me like those who wanted rid of Robins are trying to change history.
Absolutely, and that's why I didn't want Robins sacked as I didn't see him as the problem.We can extend it to seven years’ worth of matches if you like, avoid any cherry picking.
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