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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #491
SBT said:
Well forcing any interested club to pay a transfer fee would impact how much they could offer in wages - for that reason alone he’s incentivised to wait for a better offer, surely?

Again - a month ago you were questioning his commitment and doubting that anyone would be interested. If he gets a better offer then it’s our fault, not his.
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Would it really put a dent in a top flight club’s coffers?
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #492
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Would it really put a dent in a top flight club’s coffers?
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You’re asking the wrong question - would it put a dent in Callum O’Hare’s?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #493
SBT said:
You’re asking the wrong question - would it put a dent in Callum O’Hare’s?
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No.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #494
SBT said:
Well forcing any interested club to pay a transfer fee would impact how much they could offer in wages - for that reason alone he’s incentivised to wait for a better offer, surely?

Again - a month ago you were questioning his commitment and doubting that anyone would be interested. If he gets a better offer then it’s our fault, not his.
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tbf, it didn't harm particularly harm Gyokeres or Hamer. What I will take the point is they got their 'glamour' moves a season earlier than otherwise, whereas O'Hare would be going at the same time regardless.

It's how secure he feels about not having a contract past June I guess. He doesn't owe us anything though.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #495
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf, it didn't harm particularly harm Gyokeres or Hamer. What I will take the point is they got their 'glamour' moves a season earlier than otherwise, whereas O'Hare would be going at the same time regardless.

It's how secure he feels about not having a contract past June I guess. He doesn't owe us anything though.
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It didn’t harm Gyokeres or Hamer because they still had time to run on their contract.

The idea that a team is going to offer O’Hare the same wages in July if they also have to pay a few million quid in release clauses is ridiculous. Now that we’ve declined the option to offer him security while he was injured, he is heavily incentivised to run his contract down and seek the biggest deal he can get in the free transfer market.
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #496
DK just give him want he wants x
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #497
Rumour £17k offered from a starting point of £15k.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #498
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf, it didn't harm particularly harm Gyokeres or Hamer. What I will take the point is they got their 'glamour' moves a season earlier than otherwise, whereas O'Hare would be going at the same time regardless.

It's how secure he feels about not having a contract past June I guess. He doesn't owe us anything though.
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I cannot allow glamour to go unchallenged when concerning a move to Sheffield Utd.

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Gint11

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #499
I think he’ll go at the end of the season. I’ll be gutted but that’s football and the squad is stronger overall
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #500
Yea , I've collapsed as I think doug will have to .

Match the highest earners and move on with cal signed up
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #501
Greggs said:
It's like psychological warfare. Don't know whether to love him or hate him.
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Both
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #502
wingy said:
Rumour £17k offered from a starting point of £15k.
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If that's in line with the top earners I have no issues at all.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #503
Does feel like we’re so close to having a starting XI with maybe one or two top class additions next season and having to find a new AM as well is an unnecessary distraction.

Still think he won’t make a decision until the end of the season though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #504
TomRad85 said:
I cannot allow glamour to go unchallenged when concerning a move to Sheffield Utd.

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There was a reason for the scare quotes!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #505
Nuskyblue said:
If that's in line with the top earners I have no issues at all.
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I agree.

Happy for him to get the same as our top earners, but wouldn't really want to make him the outright highest. Even though I think he's great, love watching him and his energy and even more so now he seems to have found some shooting boots.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #506
SBT said:
It didn’t harm Gyokeres or Hamer because they still had time to run on their contract.

The idea that a team is going to offer O’Hare the same wages in July if they also have to pay a few million quid in release clauses is ridiculous. Now that we’ve declined the option to offer him security while he was injured, he is heavily incentivised to run his contract down and seek the biggest deal he can get in the free transfer market.
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Really don't think established premier league teams will be offering him say £50k instead of £30k because they saved a few million on a transfer fee, maybe a bigger signing on fee?

It might affect what newly newly promoted teams to the premier league or teams relegated from the premier league will offer him.

Thinking about it, would not be surprised to see him in the championship with Burnley next season after they are relegated.
 
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hamertime

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #507
Performances like that play to Callum. It doesn’t look like Doug will pay any player more than his budget so I think we loose him. Whether that right or wrong you can’t knock Doug for how he’s transformed the club in a short time.
Everything is improving even if he doesn’t get it right all of the time.
 
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Macca

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #508
Long as he stays for remainder of season all good
 

fatso

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #509
hamertime said:
Performances like that play to Callum. It doesn’t look like Doug will pay any player more than his budget so I think we loose him. Whether that right or wrong you can’t knock Doug for how he’s transformed the club in a short time.
Everything is improving even if he doesn’t get it right all of the time.
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He should at least be on a par with the top earners at the club, if not the top earner.

If he's offered less than Wright and Simms I can't blame him for not signing.
He's proved his fitness and has now added goals to his game, which was the one missing attribute, we should now pay him what he's worth to us.
 
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SJ80

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #510
wingy said:
Rumour £17k offered from a starting point of £15k.
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Heard that too
 

SJ80

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #511
His comments seem promising though
 

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Covcraig@bury

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #512
If Doug can’t see the love from us the fans and playing hard ball over a few quid and what COH means to us the paying fans he needs to give his head a jolly good wobble. Pay him what he wants he’s proven time and again he’s worth it
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #513
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Really don't think established premier league teams will be offering him say £50k instead of £30k because they saved a few million on a transfer fee, maybe a bigger signing on fee?
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I can tell you’re not a football agent with negotiation skills like this
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #514
He shouldn't break the pay structure but he should be right at the top of it, if only to secure a very valuable asset rather than lose for nothing. Its pissing money down the drain.

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hamertime

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #515
Covcraig@bury said:
If Doug can’t see the love from us the fans and playing hard ball over a few quid and what COH means to us the paying fans he needs to give his head a jolly good wobble. Pay him what he wants he’s proven time and again he’s worth it
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I don’t think he puts emotion in to it, he’s a successful businessman and will stick to his principles. Players come and go and get replaced with new heroes I think Doug knows that. I think Doug and Robins can be a great partnership. If he caves in to O’Hare then the next player will be knocking down the door.
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #516
hamertime said:
I don’t think he puts emotion in to it, he’s a successful businessman and will stick to his principles. Players come and go and get replaced with new heroes I think Doug knows that. I think Doug and Robins can be a great partnership. If he caves in to O’Hare then the next player will be knocking down the door.
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Agree , but we don’t want to lose him for a few ££ .
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #517
Covcraig@bury said:
Agree , but we don’t want to lose him for a few ££ .
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What is your definition of a few ££s?
 

SJ80

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #518
hamertime said:
I don’t think he puts emotion in to it, he’s a successful businessman and will stick to his principles. Players come and go and get replaced with new heroes I think Doug knows that. I think Doug and Robins can be a great partnership. If he caves in to O’Hare then the next player will be knocking down the door.
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I agree to a extent , personally if he was to sign 1-2 year deal with a clause ref a prem league team coming in would work?
 

rob9872

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #519
When we lost Vik and Gus we got a good fee. With Cal we'd have no money, so worth breaking the structure for. If we have to replace him then we'd be spending £3m and giving £20k per week minimum and it might not work. If Cal wants £1m to sign and £25k per week on a 4 year deal then surely even to a businessman it has value. We should've sorted it out whilst he was injured despite the risk, now he holds the cards, and I don't blame him maximising his worth.

If he does go, then he's won promotion, had an integral cameo last season and goals against Brum and Leicester this season so he goes with our blessing, but let's hope it gets sorted.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #520
SJ80 said:
I agree to an extent , personally if he was to sign 1-2 year deal with a clause ref a prem league team coming in would work?
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I think this works for both parties. Surely COH has some fear he could get injured again before the end of the season and then he won’t have any club
 

SJ80

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #521
Yep agreed , just read a piece on CET regarding what Callum said to sky stating “he hasn’t a clue regarding his contract” basically his agent is negotiating it!
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #522
SJ80 said:
His comments seem promising though
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Lets see what happens is what you say to kids when you don’t want the tantrum from saying no.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #523
skyblueelephant76 said:
What is your definition of a few ££s?
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Anything £5m or less
 
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hamertime

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #524
SJ80 said:
I agree to an extent , personally if he was to sign 1-2 year deal with a clause ref a prem league team coming in would work?
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Yeah 2 year would be ok but a risk
Considering his injuries don’t forget that. I suspect he would want a longer contract and that’s the sticking point.
 

skybluegod

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #525
rob9872 said:
When we lost Vik and Gus we got a good fee. With Cal we'd have no money, so worth breaking the structure for. If we have to replace him then we'd be spending £3m and giving £20k per week minimum and it might not work. If Cal wants £1m to sign and £25k per week on a 4 year deal then surely even to a businessman it has value. We should've sorted it out whilst he was injured despite the risk, now he holds the cards, and I don't blame him maximising his worth.

If he does go, then he's won promotion, had an integral cameo last season and goals against Brum and Leicester this season so he goes with our blessing, but let's hope it gets sorted.
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agreed, but you need to also look at it that footballer players and particularly there agents realise this as well. Other teams will be looking at O'Hare and talking to his agent making it very clear what they save on the transfer fee can be spent on him, likely in a chunky signing on fee and ultimately those clubs probably have bigger resources than us.
 
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