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torchomatic

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  • Jun 1, 2016
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COVENTRY City boss Chris Anderson insists the future of the club’s crucial youth academy that produces young stars remains under threat as his requests for a lease extension have been ignored.

We revealed in a recent exclusive interview with him his claim that he was recently informed by the Alan Higgs Centre’s trust operators that the club would have to leave the centre when a lease expires in June next year – to make way for new plans including rugby club Wasps’ youth academy.

The situation was condemned in a statement following the interview by fans’ group the Sky Blue Trust, which demanded clarity.

It said: “Coventry City needs to continue to attract and then develop the players who will become the future of our club. It is therefore imperative that this status, which attracts a grant in the region of £500, 000 from the Premier League, is protected.”

Paul Breed, chief executive of the Coventry Sport Foundation (CSF), which operates the centre in Allard Way, responded last week with the following statement: “Coventry City’s current legal agreement for its academy to be based at the Higgs Centre expires in June 2017.

“It is no secret that Coventry City have been looking to base all their playing operations at a purpose-built complex in the Coventry area and therefore move away from the Higgs Centre and had told us in meetings they would therefore be unable to commit to a long term future, which is completely understandable. Obviously we have to bear that ambition in mind when making our own plans for the centre.

“Recently the club has informed us their intentions might change, and we are exploring options.”

Mr Anderson told the Coventry Observer today there had been no approach to the club by CSF to indicate any change of position, and his repeated requests to open discussions for the club to remain at the centre had been ignored.

Commenting on Mr Breed’s remarks that it was “exploring options”, Mr Anderson said: “We were delighted that there might be a glimmer of hope. I subsequently wrote to Mr Breed not once, but twice, asking about terms under which the club’s Academy could continue renting the Higgs Centre facilities.

“We have been aware that they have had discussions with Wasps, but we are completely in the dark as to where those discussions are or what they will imply for our tenancy.

“In the meantime, I have yet to receive a reply. I don’t know why.”

He said the club had not been given notice to vacate, adding: “Let’s take a look at what is actually being communicated. Reading the statement carefully, Mr Breed essentially said that the club had decided to leave the Higgs Centre and the Coventry Sports Foundation therefore had no choice but to look for alternative uses. That is simply not true.

“When you rent a flat, you might at some point think about buying a home. You might even contact an estate agent to see if there’s a piece of land to be bought. That’s not the same as giving notice to your landlord you are about to vacate the flat you’re in. Why would we do that?

“We have not given our landlord notice that we would want to vacate the property when the lease ends. Instead, the football club wants to continue its tenancy at the Higgs Centre to house the club’s Academy and has been trying to discuss a long term tenancy for our Academy at the Higgs Centre beyond 2017.”

On previous discussions with CSF, he said: “I have consistently expressed our view to Mr Breed in person and over email since I first met him last year.

“By the way, Mr Breed has confirmed to me that he is not aware of any correspondence between the football club and the Higgs Trust or Coventry Sports Foundation (CSF) from before my time that we would want to vacate the Higgs Centre.

“In fact, discussions were held with CSF not too long ago about the idea of using the Academy as part of a long term vision for the centre – e.g., the use of the club’s sports science staff as part of the community benefit mission of the Higgs Centre. The recent and costly renovation of the 3G indoor pitch only made sense under the condition that the football club remain at the Higgs Centre for some time to come.

“The Academy is at the heart of our club. I have been deeply concerned privately and now publicly that CSF or the owners of the property have not invited us to have a more formal conversation about future plans for the Centre and our intentions to remain there. We have simply been ignored.

“You can perhaps now understand my confusion at Mr Breed characterising our vacating the Higgs Centre first as a kind of done deal, then saying “we are exploring options” in a press statement, and then not answering my request for information.

‘NO PLACE FOR CCFC IN COVENTRY – A CITY OF RUGBY’

Mr Anderson added: “More broadly, we are disheartened at what has transpired and can only surmise that it has been decided that the CCFC Academy – and by implication, Coventry’s youngest and most promising athletes and their families – have no place in CSF’s plans plans for the Higgs Centre, and that this has been the case for some time. This is hard to believe, as the facility was custom designed to house our Academy and has been a terrific home for our youngsters.

“It feels as though Coventry Sports Foundation is effectively ending Coventry City Football Club’s tenancy at the Higgs Centre unilaterally. This is something which I, the football club, our supporters, and I suspect the Coventry community at large, will find difficult to understand.

“I am not privy to all the political and legal manoeuvrings and can only speak for the football club. But when you take into account the broader context of what has happened to the stadium that was built for the football club, the recently unearthed email by a Council employee about the Butts Park Arena, and now the Academy training centre, as the person running the football club day to day, it does at times feel like there is no place for CCFC in Coventry.

“All the while we are seeing concerted efforts being made to turn Coventry into a CIty of Rugby, it is becoming ever more difficult for the football club to operate in the community whose name it bears.

“This is exactly what shouldn’t be happening, and t think we should all take a step back and think about what the football club means as a business and community asset. For one, football is the most popular sport in the country and this city, and I can’t imagine that the decision makers in this community would want Coventry to be known as the city that evicted its football club. I also can’t imagine that the community that came together to honour Jimmy Hill at Coventry Cathedral would really want Coventry to be the city known for making it impossible for the football club to continue training and playing the game we love. There must be a reasonable way forward, and the football club is ready to be part of finding a solution.

“We are releasing our new kits for the 2016/17 season today. I would ask readers to take a look at the players in the images to promote the kits. They are worn by Coventry City footballers, kids born and raised in Coventry. We should be proud of them and all the hard work they’ve done and the sacrifices their parents have made. Who would not want them in the heart of this community?”
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #2
So if true, CSF have some questions to answer. The club should also be questioned on exactly what they want too!
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #3
Nick said:
So if true, CSF have some questions to answer. The club should also be questioned on exactly what they want too!
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Yep - This should be used as an opportunity to have an open dialogue - including with the fans via the SBT (on account of their statement).
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #4
What a shit bomb.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #5
All part of the city of rugby initiative, been saying it for months and now Anderson is as well.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #6
Right then, we catorgorically know what the club want. We want to stay there way beyond 2017.

Now for some real journalism please and go and ask Higgs and mr breed what their plans are and what they are doing about it? No answer is not acceptable.

This needs sorting ASAP. The academy is vital to ccfc in the long term.
 
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colin101

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #7
Quote Commenting on Mr Breed’s remarks that it was “exploring options”, Mr Anderson said: “We were delighted that there might be a glimmer of hope. I subsequently wrote to Mr Breed not once, but twice, asking about terms under which the club’s Academy could continue renting the Higgs Centre facilities. End Quote

Here's an idea Chris, why not give Mr Breed a call....................It's good to talk
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #8
Kingokings204 said:
Right then, we catorgorically know what the club want. We want to stay there way beyond 2017.

Now for some real journalism please and go and ask Higgs and mr breed what their plans are and what they are doing about it? No answer is not acceptable.

This needs sorting ASAP. The academy is vital to ccfc in the long term.
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Higgs will just keep churning out the same response that the club announced there intention to leave and take the academy to a new stadium regardless of how weak that argument is.
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #9
So Anderson has written to him twice about it. What about getting on the phone, arranging a meeting via his PA/Secretary?

Having to letters/emails 'ignored' and then either going to or agreeing to be interviewed by the press just doesn't strike me as being particularly pragmatic.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #10
CCFC said:
Higgs will just keep churning out the same response that the club announced there intention to leave and take the academy to a new stadium regardless of how weak that argument is.
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They need to be pressured then.

1. If Wasps and the pool are moving in, is it physically possible the club can still be there?
2. If not, why not? Costs / space etc?
3. If yes, get sorting it then.

That is the main one.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #11
armybike said:
So Anderson has written to him twice about it. What about getting on the phone, arranging a meeting via his PA/Secretary?

Having to letters/emails 'ignored' and then either going to or agreeing to be interviewed by the press just doesn't strike me as being particularly pragmatic.
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Is that the best you can do? Better get on the bat phone to HQ - you'll be expected to perform a lot better than that.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #12
armybike said:
So Anderson has written to him twice about it. What about getting on the phone, arranging a meeting via his PA/Secretary?

Having to letters/emails 'ignored' and then either going to or agreeing to be interviewed by the press just doesn't strike me as being particularly pragmatic.
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It's common courtesy to reply to letters, isn't it? Particularly on something so vital for the future of our, apologies my, club.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #13
armybike said:
So Anderson has written to him twice about it. What about getting on the phone, arranging a meeting via his PA/Secretary?

Having to letters/emails 'ignored' and then either going to or agreeing to be interviewed by the press just doesn't strike me as being particularly pragmatic.
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From what I have heard calls aren't being answered / returned.

Again, take it with a pinch of salt and by no means saying it is 100% fact.

I can't see how this bit is still being turned on the club, now the pressure should be on higgs.
 
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The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #14
I'm now awaiting court action from the club if CSF don't renew the lease sometime in the future.i have no idea if this is legally possible but there must be some legal recourse.
The club are clearly saying they want a long term lease and base the academy there in the future, what more does the foundation want than that.
If this is true I stand firmly behind the clubs next court case.

The bloody council and CSF are trying to put an end to our club.
Why would they do that ?
and why are we standing by and watching this happen without some protest against them.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #15
Nick said:
They need to be pressured then.

1. If Wasps and the pool are moving in, is it physically possible the club can still be there?
2. If not, why not? Costs / space etc?
3. If yes, get sorting it then.

That is the main one.
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They will just ignore the questions and keep putting out the same response,
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #16
The Reverend Skyblue said:
I'm now awaiting court action from the club if CSF don't renew the lease sometime in the future.i have no idea if this is legally possible but there must be some legal recourse.
The club are clearly saying they want a long term lease and base the academy there in the future, what more does the foundation want than that.
If this is true I stand firmly behind the clubs next court case.

The bloody council and CSF are trying to put an end to our club.
Why would they do that ?
and why are we standing by and watching this happen without some protest against them.
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I think that is what the Trust are trying and I think they are going about it the right way. Usually I slag them off because every article used to have some sort of tone having a dig. The last couple of statements have been spot on. Along the lines of "Everybody needs to answer questions" which is right isn't it?

The next thing is how can people protest or pressure them?
 
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Si80

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #17
colin101 said:
Quote Commenting on Mr Breed’s remarks that it was “exploring options”, Mr Anderson said: “We were delighted that there might be a glimmer of hope. I subsequently wrote to Mr Breed not once, but twice, asking about terms under which the club’s Academy could continue renting the Higgs Centre facilities. End Quote

Hers an idea Chris, why not give Mr Breed a call....................It's good to talk
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Exactly this. Stop fucking about with emails and blabbing to the press about how hard done by you are being treated. Call him up and get it sorted. What a dick.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #18
CCFC said:
They will just ignore the questions and keep putting out the same response,
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But people keep swallowing it, the club gets pressured which is right and they have said they want to be there long term.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #19
Nick said:
But people keep swallowing it, the club gets pressured which is right and they have said they want to be there long term.
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You're right, they should be but as long as people keep swallowing it they won't change their answer.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #20
Si80 said:
Exactly this. Stop fucking about with emails and blabbing to the press about how hard done by you are being treated. Call him up and get it sorted. What a dick.
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Picking up the phone will get it sorted?

I always use e mail communication as a professional way to do business.

Are you saying this guy is so unprofessional and doesn't give a fuck about the football club he cannot even be arsed to reply?

I agree - it's disgusting isn't it?
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #21
Si80 said:
Exactly this. Stop fucking about with emails and blabbing to the press about how hard done by you are being treated. Call him up and get it sorted. What a dick.
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And yet it is fine to ignore written communication? He should just ignore messages from the club and wait for a call?
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #22
Nick said:
From what I have heard calls aren't being answered / returned.

Again, take it with a pinch of salt and by no means saying it is 100% fact.

I can't see how this bit is still being turned on the club, now the pressure should be on higgs.
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I'm not turning it on the club - I just don't think this type of article is going to be of any benefit to the situation.

Reid's abrupt style of journalism isn't what is needed at the moment.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #23
If he'd have said he tried phone calling, then people on here would be saying he should have emailed or written so there is physical/computer copy and proof of communication.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #24
armybike said:
I'm not turning it on the club - I just don't think this type of article is going to be of any benefit to the situation.

Reid's abrupt style of journalism isn't what is needed at the moment.
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To be honest I just tend to focus on the actual quotes.

The club are now coming out and saying they are trying to sort it long term, saying they dont know why CSF are saying certain things etc. I don't see an issue.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #25
higgs foundation are corrupt and will rot for these sins
 

Si80

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #26
Where I work, people sit with hundreds of unread emails on a daily basis. If I want something done by someone I either walk around to them (massive office here at STW) or I call them if they are offsite. You know what happens? I get an answer (whether I like the answer or not).

CSF aren't sitting there with a clear inbox thinking I hope CA emails me today so I can ignore it...
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #27
CCFC said:
If he'd have said he tried phone calling, then people on here would be saying he should have emailed or written so there is physical/computer copy and proof of communication.
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Exactly.

If he had called, turned up there, emailed and written it should have been a carrier pigeon.

Again, it is just a stick to beat the club with it and it isn't really the time for it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #28
Si80 said:
Where I work, people sit with hundreds of unread emails on a daily basis. If I want something done by someone I either walk around to them (massive office here at STW) or I call them if they are offsite. You know what happens? I get an answer (whether I like the answer or not).

CSF aren't sitting there with a clear inbox thinking I hope CA emails me today so I can ignore it...
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You probably need to get the work flow sorting out. If people are ignoring emails as important as that then they need to give their heads a wobble don't they?

In jobs I have had you can't just ignore emails or let hundreds of actual emails build up.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #29
we cannot let them kill this club

we need a sky blue vigilante

would love it if sky blue sam kcicked the shit out of lucas
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #30
Si80 said:
Where I work, people sit with hundreds of unread emails on a daily basis. If I want something done by someone I either walk around to them (massive office here at STW) or I call them if they are offsite. You know what happens? I get an answer (whether I like the answer or not).

CSF aren't sitting there with a clear inbox thinking I hope CA emails me today so I can ignore it...
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Ah, I see. The poor man had a full inbox, so he didn't ignore them, he just didn't realise they were there. Fine, that's all cleared up then.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #31
covcity4life said:
would love it if sky blue sam kcicked the shit out of lucas
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I never advocate violence, but that did make me laugh.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #32
torchomatic said:
Ah, I see. The poor man had a full inbox, so he didn't ignore them, he just didn't realise they were there. Fine, that's all cleared up then.
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Didn't CA say he had been trying in the last article too? You would think that when that came out he would check for the emails and reply to them..
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #33
Do we know that the club wants a long term agreement? How long ago was the last TF comment about a stadium complex? Then the denials about the BPA and the resultant confirmations? There is no space at the BPA for an academy- as far as we know. Do we, or Higg's for that matter, really know wtf is going on beyond next week? No. JRs, cloak and dagger, announcements which never come to fruit, announcements in the press - " Jubelmeldungen " - and then denials, and then - in effect - denials of the denials. Business plan? Never ever been shown to anyone or even quoted by anyone. The last known plan between CCC and Joy was the plan to rip off the bank and it's share holders by offering a part-payment on the loan or we let ACL fail. That came to nothing. Since then it's all been down hill and this is the latest set back. An offer of rent guarantee for the next ten years may convince people that CCFC are serious. You can get these guarantees from a third party against a fee and some form of security ( e.g. Backed by Arvo). To lose the one positive and successful asset of CCFC ( imo) would be a more immediate disaster than being tenants of the Ricoh.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #34
Once again this thread shows that people are more concerned about finger pointing than the immediate danger to the club's academy.

Who cares how he contacted them. The important point here he has now made it very clear he has contacted them and wants to extend the lease. So either CSF are ignoring the club or they have somehow missed all of Anderson's attempts to contact them. If its the former its a disgrace, if its the latter then I'm sure we'll see a clear statement from CSF indicating they are happy to extend the lease and will be speaking to the club ASAP.
 
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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #35
Very worrying. Almost certainly the Academy is gone from the Higgs next June.

Also worrying is that it comes across that they were not aware, that the club are panicked by the outcome and the implication that the entire club might end up outside of Coventry.
 
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