I love Coventry City but I hate the way that the owners have destroyed the complete fabric of a once good if not great institution.
Yes they picked up a failed business but you can't be content with the way they have handled the affairs of CCFC since then. Can you?
I know there are two sides to each argument and I do accept that others have played their part in our outcomes but it is time to grovel to those involved and secure the future before we are begging others to help us.
But hey it's amazing the love for a hedge fund. Go for it Sisu
And this is only going to get worse with the new WMCA (is there a song in there somewhere?)still surprised you can't see what a peculiar statement "Are you aware that most people thing that Coventry is a suburb of Birmingham?" is to make.
Would that excuse having people on the council who don't have the citys best interest at heart because that's what it implies when taken in the contest of your initial post.
How did they discuss a return to the Ricoh? Mediation wasn't it?
If they follow processes, take minutes etc there is no issue.
Can I ask a possibly naïve question? What subjects are they hoping to mediate on? That is, why is there suddenly a need to mediate?
The fact that CCC sold their share in ACL at a knockdown price to Wasps (accepting a lower offer for that part of the business than CCFC had proposed)?
The fact that AEH Trust (let's not they are devoid of any blame in this) sold their share in ACL to Wasps, even though CCFC had offered to buy it?
The fact that CCC have granted permission to develop the AEH Trust's facilities for a training ground for Wasps, thereby making the CCFC Academy homeless?
The fact that CCC have allegedly made numerous attempts to impose planning conditions on development of the BPA that would prevent CCFC from playing there?
The fact that SISU have taken repeated and ongoing legal action against CCC and Wasps to seek recompense for financial losses they perceive they have incurred as a result of illegal use of public funds to support a private enterprise, etc.?
Please enlighten me.
We came back because the Wasps deal was imminent and Sisu knew the game was up.
Sisu realised we would be left in Northampton trying to negotiate a way back with Wasps rather than Higgs/CCC.
No. But reading some of the posts on here you would think the only obstacle is the council stopping a 'done and dusted' stadium.Has anybody said that?
No. But reading some of the post on here you would think the only obstacle is the council stopping a 'done and dusted' stadium.
If I rented a property at an extortionate rate that left me bankrupt twice and the landlord refused to listen to a reduction But told me I could buy it for 40 years and then gave it to some bloke from London for half the price for 250 years I'd feel like suing.
Fook me I do worry about some people on here.
Yes, I quite clearly do! ha.
I said as soon as it was mentioned that SISU wouldn't win it so it's a bit pointless. You were probably supporting a different team and NOPM so missed it!
There were some talks and ACL were accommodating on rent (again) and in reality it saved Sisu's face and gave them an opportunity to bring the club back.How did they speak to the council about coming back and Lucas? I thought people couldn't speak at all with legals going on, never mind make deals to come back.
Your right, It must have been whilst you and my team was at sixfields !
So if JR2 is pointless why can't you see it as a simple fix, Sisu drop JR2 and then a an extended rental deal can be agreed ?
Can I ask a possibly naïve question? What subjects are they hoping to mediate on? That is, why is there suddenly a need to mediate?
The fact that CCC sold their share in ACL at a knockdown price to Wasps (accepting a lower offer for that part of the business than CCFC had proposed)?
The fact that AEH Trust (let's not they are devoid of any blame in this) sold their share in ACL to Wasps, even though CCFC had offered to buy it?
The fact that CCC have granted permission to develop the AEH Trust's facilities for a training ground for Wasps, thereby making the CCFC Academy homeless?
The fact that CCC have allegedly made numerous attempts to impose planning conditions on development of the BPA that would prevent CCFC from playing there?
The fact that SISU have taken repeated and ongoing legal action against CCC and Wasps to seek recompense for financial losses they perceive they have incurred as a result of illegal use of public funds to support a private enterprise, etc.?
Please enlighten me.
There were some talks and ACL were accommodating on rent (again) and in reality it saved Sisu's face and gave them an opportunity to bring the club back.
The Council just rubber stamped it via ACL.
I am still surprised that you can't see that calling someone a bastard is fair game, calling them a German bastard or a black bastard is not? Why then should the place of origin be an issue in this context? It is bigotry in all forms. Like saying fans of Bradford are on their way to the temple or whatever it was. No place CVD.still surprised you can't see what a peculiar statement "Are you aware that most people thing that Coventry is a suburb of Birmingham?" is to make.
Would that excuse having people on the council who don't have the citys best interest at heart because that's what it implies when taken in the contest of your initial post.
As I said it was the Wasps deal.Really? 2 games into the season they suddenly realised nobody was going after a full season and came back?
.... because there was no compromise by CCC to be made so she just sat and listened.Why was Lucas involved? Why could she talk about it with legals ongoing?
Can you briefly summarise/paraphrase the relevant points, Italia?Please read the court ruling !!!
YesCan you briefly summarise/paraphrase the relevant points, Italia?
I did say it was a naïve question!
As I said it was the Wasps deal.
They had only just paid for a new Northampton pitch so they were planning for a full season.
Every now and again, you say something sensible.As I said it was the Wasps deal.
They had only just paid for a new Northampton pitch so they were planning for a full season.
Nick is correct, without discussions there are no solutions and the sooner people talk the sooner we will find either a resolution or at least know what we are facing.Yes, but it still involved talking didn't it? Legals were ongoing then too.
It's the same as Wasps suddenly saying they can't talk because of legals, after they already had been.
You need to get out more!!! I can't remember a time when I have been called a Brummie even in this country by so called intelligent people(and a few idiots as well)I've never heard any genuine suggestion that Coventry is part of Birmingham. The closest is a confusion why we don't have the same accent as the rest of the Midlands.
No, it wasn't at Sixfields it was after that. Nice try though.
You can also see it as blackmail that the club will be forced out if they don't drop it
Just one point. In my admittedly limited experience in taking someone to court. Isn't it standard practice to have mediation before starting court action? The idea being mediation stops court action happening and court action only happens when mediation fails? Whats to stop SISU suspending JR2 until the mediation has come to it's natural conclusion? Whatever that may be. As seems to be standard in this comedy of errors the cart has been put before the horse. If JR2 isn't suspended before mediation has taken place whats in it for the other parties to get involved in mediation exactly? The only reason that they would have for getting involved in mediation (stopping JR2) is happening anyway. Surely this makes any pursuit of mediation from SISU of any parties that they control disingenuous from the start? Thus making mediation a pointless task with no other possible conclusion other than JR2, which is currently happening anyway.
Someone please explain to me what the other parties can possibly gain from mediation now that JR2 has been triggered? The answer is clearly nothing. So why are they going to do it?
I am still surprised that you can't see that calling someone a bastard is fair game, calling them a German bastard or a black bastard is not? Why then should the place of origin be an issue in this context? It is bigotry in all forms. Like saying fans of Bradford are on their way to the temple or whatever it was. No place CVD.
My sensitivity to being called a Brummie has long since gone, labels don't hurt me, unless some Ill informed soul called me a Sisu lover. That would scar me, some on here wear that as a badge of pride.
On your other point surely the clue is in the name Coventry City Council. Acting on behalf of the citizens of said city.
Having just read your other post I see that you are on a roll here. Read what I posted again and then read Grendel's post, the context there is clear.
Go on, put your mind to it, it will come.First statement in bold - oh dear me!!
Second statement in bold - Can you give me some examples to back that up because I can't think of anyone.
Do you understand what Judicial Review is?
Go on, put your mind to it, it will come.
You need to get out more!!!
I'll persist.Yes, but it still involved talking didn't it? Legals were ongoing then too.
It's the same as Wasps suddenly saying they can't talk because of legals, after they already had been.
No it won't. There's no one.
I can think of some who hate their city and the football club though.[/QUOTE]
Who would that be CVD?
CRFC and CCFC need to agree on a head of terms arrangement between the both parties. Without this there is no possibility of moving towards presenting anything to the council for planning permission. The language so far says that's is still a long way off.
Yes the council and the owners have to resolve differences and we can see that won't happen whilst there is legal action going on and unless there is something in it for the council.
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