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Bye bye Saturday (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date May 21, 2017
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Skyblueweeman

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #36
SkyblueBazza said:
How will it impact Cov Rugby? Are their fans somehow disloyal or something?

Not seen anything anywhere else to confirm this request to the FL either...maybe it is true, maybe it isn't?
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People want to watch rugby on both Saturday and Sunday currently. If they move Wasps to Saturday, it might stop people going to watch Cov Rugby.



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sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • May 21, 2017
  • #37
Awful that a sports team want preference over the day of which they play their home games over their 'tenants'.

Unfortunately we are going to come across things like this whilst we are renting.

Would there be the same uproar if we played BPA and Cov RFC wanted priority for the Saturday afternoon fixture?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #38
Astute said:
I'm not surprised that you don't see any logic. You never do.
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That's because your statement has no logic.

Just been confirmed by Eastwood on the radio. Oh and oddly an acknowledgment we may have less traditional Saturday games.

Perhaps you'd better tell Nicky he's wrong as well
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #39
Grendel said:
That's because your statement has no logic.

Just been confirmed by Eastwood on the radio. Oh and oddly an acknowledgment we may have less traditional Saturday games.

Perhaps you'd better tell Nicky he's wrong as well
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All down to the FL. So how do you know nothing can be done when it can be done elsewhere?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #40
Grendel said:
Wasps have applied to the football league to have fixture preference and to play on Saturdays.

Thought they didn't want to harm the local rugby club either?
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it's OK it's not sisu.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #41
Astute said:
All down to the FL. So how do you know nothing can be done when it can be done elsewhere?
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Because if the football grants it and they fixtures are already out why would the rugby union change fixtures to accommodate a football team.

Where else has it been done?
 

Astute

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #42
Grendel said:
Because if the football grants it and they fixtures are already out why would the rugby union change fixtures to accommodate a football team.

Where else has it been done?
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Are you saying that the rugger lot wouldn't or couldn't change any weeks Wasps play at 'home'?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #43
we could salute the magic of Tranmere in the 80s and play on a Friday night!
Worryingly, this might help sisu put a case to FL for moving us out of Cov again.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #44
Astute said:
So how do you know nothing can be done when it can be done elsewhere?
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It isn't is it? Those that ground share the football club issues their fixtures first and the rugby club works around them. If Wasps are wanting to ensure they play Saturdays then at best the FL have to agree to moving our fixtures to Sundays where they clash, at worst none of our games will be scheduled for Saturdays.
 

Astute

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #45
clint van damme said:
we could salute the magic of Tranmere in the 80s and play on a Friday night!
Worryingly, this might help sisu put a case to FL for moving us out of Cov again.
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But it is down to the FL to start with. They would most probably talk to SISU if they were considering it.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #46
chiefdave said:
It isn't is it? Those that ground share the football club issues their fixtures first and the rugby club works around them. If Wasps are wanting to ensure they play Saturdays then at best the FL have to agree to moving our fixtures to Sundays where they clash, at worst none of our games will be scheduled for Saturdays.
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No games on a Saturday would be a nightmare.
Let's be honest, for quite a few of us, the match day experience involves having a few jars before and after the game. Not really something I want to be doing too often on a Sunday with work the next day.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #47
Grendel said:
Just been confirmed by Eastwood on the radio.
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Was that on CWR?
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #48
Northampton Saints and the Cobblers have been known to play on the same day (sometimes at the same time) - different grounds only 1/2 mile apart.

Doesn't happen so much now due to rugby TV coverage, but shows that the RFU/FL don't get involved in fixtures unless the clubs want them to. The only intervention comes from the council due to traffic chaos. It is a rugby town by the way.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #49
Astute said:
Are you saying that the rugger lot wouldn't or couldn't change any weeks Wasps play at 'home'?
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Again at whose request?

And where has it been done already as you've stated?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #50
Just listened, Eastwood talking bollocks again. Said they want to change to what their fans are used to. Given that he's also claimed most tickets are sold to CV1-6 postcodes how does that stack up?
 
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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • May 21, 2017
  • #51
Just to be clear as to what they are applying for. Is it

- to have primacy on the choice of dates/day? (which means they could still stick with Sundays but if a fixture demands it move to a Saturday and CCFC have to make way)
or
- to play all their games on a Saturday?
or
both?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #52
oldskyblue58 said:
Just to be clear as to what they are applying for. Is it

- to have primacy on the choice of dates/day? (which means they could still stick with Sundays but if a fixture demands it move to a Saturday and CCFC have to make way)
or
- to play all their games on a Saturday?
or
both?
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To play games on a Saturday at 3
 

ceetee

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #53
Grendel said:
To play games on a Saturday at 3
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I won't believe it until Italia and Peeler appear to defend it
 
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wingy

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #54
Grendel said:
Why would their sporting body bother if wasps get primacy they will not lodge a request - whose going to request a change in their fixtures?

What about the numerous cup games they play? Also if primacy is removed they could try and get other events on vacant Saturday's for them.
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Like I said earlier in the thread it equated to something like five games the last time they tried this and it wasn't a particular success.
Don't understand their rationale on this.
 
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lifelongcityfan

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #55
why would this affect CCFC? Timmy has told us he is building his own stadium or moving to BPA.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #56
Sick Boy said:
Are we required to have primacy in accordance with FL rules?
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We didn't when we were at Sixfields. Under FL rules we should have had primacy because we were in a higher league but so keen was Tim and SISU to take us out of Coventry they agreed to let Northampton have primacy and the FL sanctioned it against their own rules. More guidelines than rules.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #57
Skyblueweeman said:
People want to watch rugby on both Saturday and Sunday currently. If they move Wasps to Saturday, it might stop people going to watch Cov Rugby.



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So we are talking about people that don't want to watch CCFC?

Not especially interested in them

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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #58
Leicester have always had two well supported clubs and the Rugby/Football authorities, local police and council all must get their heads together to make sure they are not playing at the same time, it makes good security, traffic flow and commercial sense all round..................Oh but I forgot, the Coventry populace keep voting in a useless fucking Labour council every chance they get and their priorities are based purely around turning CV1 into a student campus and joining us up as a suburb of 'Greater Birmingham' ! You reap what you sow and all that !
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #59
Grendel said:
Wasps have applied to the football league to have fixture preference and to play on Saturdays.

Thought they didn't want to harm the local rugby club either?
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Surprised they waited this long. Hopefully the FA will just make sure our Saturdays don't clash.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #60
dongonzalos said:
Surprised they waited this long. Hopefully the FA will just make sure our Saturdays don't clash.
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No it means any games will move to a Sunday or Friday.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #61
TV will move a fair few of Wasps league & European games to Friday and Sunday's anyway.

Probably play at home on a Saturday when they can like at the minute.

Surely a large portion of their fan base are involved in rugby clubs when Sunday afternoons is probably the time they aren't playing or any kids games on.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #62
skybluetony176 said:
We didn't when we were at Sixfields. Under FL rules we should have had primacy because we were in a higher league
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The FL 'interpreted' the rule as the FL being the competition therefore we were at the same level as Northampton.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #63
Grendel said:
No it means any games will move to a Sunday or Friday.
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How would it work in practice? Would our fixtures come out with us playing Saturdays and then getting moved as required as has happened a couple of times already.

Or are they suggesting none of our games are scheduled for Saturdays?

You have to think playing Sunday would impact attendances. League 2 against staying at home and watching the Prem.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #64
chiefdave said:
The FL 'interpreted' the rule as the FL being the competition therefore we were at the same level as Northampton.
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Like I said, more guidelines than rules. But that is the rule. Wimbledon used to have primacy over Crystal Palace when they ground shared for instance.
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #65
FL can't insist that we have priority over Wasps.
They could presumably prevent us from playing at the Ricoh if a satisfactory arrangement couldn't be reached, but they will surely expect the two clubs to come to an agreement.
As we don't have any arrangement at the Ricoh going forward it would have to be part of the discussions.
Seems to me that Wasps are putting up obstacles which can be removed in exchange for a better deal (for Wasps)
 
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Gaz71

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #66
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
TV will move a fair few of Wasps league & European games to Friday and Sunday's anyway.

Probably play at home on a Saturday when they can like at the minute.

Surely a large portion of their fan base are involved in rugby clubs when Sunday afternoons is probably the time they aren't playing or any kids games on.
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Yes and a large percentage of local junior football is played on Sunday afternoons which would mean lots of kids and adults unable to attend games or put them off season ticket purchases.
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #67
ceetee said:
FL can't insist that we have priority over Wasps.
They could presumably prevent us from playing at the Ricoh if a satisfactory arrangement couldn't be reached, but they will surely expect the two clubs to come to an agreement.
As we don't have any arrangement at the Ricoh going forward it would have to be part of the discussions.
Seems to me that Wasps are putting up obstacles which can be removed in exchange for a better deal (for Wasps)
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Yes they can the ground currently gives priority to the football ground - unless there is an exceptional circumstance at present wasps cannot insist we change our fixtures - this action will change that.
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #68
Grendel said:
Yes they can the ground currently gives priority to the football ground - unless there is an exceptional circumstance at present wasps cannot insist we change our fixtures - this action will change that.
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Does that have any legal standing or is it just a promise like Wasps will not have any impact on CCFC?
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • May 21, 2017
  • #69
Liquid Gold said:


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Kerching!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2017
  • #70
ceetee said:
Does that have any legal standing or is it just a promise like Wasps will not have any impact on CCFC?
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No football clubs have to have primacy over fixtures - you can't compare us at Northampton as in that instance obviously the club was there by an agreed arrangement.

As things currently stand we have to take precedence over fixtures and it's always been accepted. Yesterday though Mr Eastwood was bragging that they are changing that for next season to suit them not us.
You have to question what the motive is as TV means they play a lot of non Saturday games.
 
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