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  • Start date May 18, 2016
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #946
Also how many acres us the Butts Arena?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #947
oldfiver said:
Does Maton have a comment of his own to quote?
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What do you mean?
 

chiefdave

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #948
Both would be tight but I think workable. Obviously a new stadium doesn't have to be exact replica of the Ricoh but it gives a decent idea.



 
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Otis

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #949
chiefdave said:
Both would be tight but I think workable. Obviously a new stadium doesn't have to be exact replica of the Ricoh but it gives a decent idea.

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Brilliant! Exactly where I mean. Cheers, Dave.

Looks a very similar size to the Butts and it's been wasteland for years now and it's right in the city centre.

Why hasn't anyone suggested this before?
 

Otis

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #950
chiefdave said:
Both would be tight but I think workable. Obviously a new stadium doesn't have to be exact replica of the Ricoh but it gives a decent idea.

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For anyone wondering about this location, it's opposite the Belgrade Plaza car park, on the other side of the ring road, down from the fire station. Radford Road to the right, Abbott's Lane above and St. Osburg's to the left.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #951
Used to be a storage area for British Gas?
 

chiefdave

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #952
dongonzalos said:
Used to be a storage area for British Gas?
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Contaminated?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #953
chiefdave said:
Contaminated?
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We have had that before
(I put an emoticon, in here with a mouth mask)
However my emoticons don't work
Is that as expected nick
It's in an I phone .

Seriously though mate yes I think it was the storage area for the old massive gas cylinder thingy (sorry forgot their name) that used to be opposite.

Dave how many acres are u thinking we need for this?
 
Last edited: May 21, 2016

Otis

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #954
Yep. Land was contaminated round Foleshill. Cleared that up, built the Ricoh.

Then it got contaminated by Wasps.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #955
Otis said:
Yep. Land was contaminated round Foleshill. Cleared that up, built the Ricoh.

Then it got contaminated by Wasps.
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At least it wasn't hornets
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #956
How much do you think the club would pay to build a new training/academy facility?
 

chiefdave

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #957
dongonzalos said:
How much do you think the club would pay to build a new training/academy facility?
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Impossible question when you don't know location, costs, other facilities etc. Maybe they could do it for nothing, just issues bonds against the stadium.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #958
Otis said:
Brilliant! Exactly where I mean. Cheers, Dave.

Looks a very similar size to the Butts and it's been wasteland for years now and it's right in the city centre.

Why hasn't anyone suggested this before?
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Because it's too credible of an option for a bluff someone might just call it. What are SISU going to do then? Build it?
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #959
skybluetony176 said:
Because it's too credible of an option for a bluff someone might just call it. What are SISU going to do then? Build it?
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Does anyone know who owns it or if there is anything planned for the site? Should get the question asked at the next SCG.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #960
chiefdave said:
Impossible question when you don't know location, costs, other facilities etc. Maybe they could do it for nothing, just issues bonds against the stadium.
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I wasn't having a pop it's just the fire station across the road
They have to pay 7 million to convert it into a ambo/fire station
So would it may be worth a cheeky bid, they might fancy buying a cheaper location?
It might help them out?
 
Last edited: May 22, 2016

Rusty Trombone

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #961
The Abbotts Lane land is being offered for housing.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #962
Rusty Trombone said:
The Abbotts Lane land is being offered for housing.
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Does that mean it can't be used for anything else?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #963
Dave when you put these photos up, do you know how many acres are required?
 
Last edited: May 22, 2016

Rusty Trombone

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #964
dongonzalos said:
Does that mean it can't be used for anything else?
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Not necessarily, I imagine it will go to the highest bidder.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #965
Rusty Trombone said:
The Abbotts Lane land is being offered for housing.
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Is that the former gas depot?
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • May 21, 2016
  • #966
fernandopartridge said:
Is that the former gas depot?
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Was owned by National Grid I believe, can't say I know a lot about what it was used for, they were going to clean up the contamination a few years ago, which I assume happened.
 

Brylowes

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #967
Rusty Trombone said:
The Abbotts Lane land is being offered for housing.
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The Google map I'm looking at on my I pad show buildings and car park on that site, so I take
it they've gone now have they?

Must be showing me old maps
 

chiefdave

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #968
dongonzalos said:
Dave when you put these photos up, do you know how many acres are required?
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Ricoh (just the stadium bowl itself, not the halls) is about 8 acres.

This is a good tool to use to find out: https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-area-calculator-tool.htm
 
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Rusty Trombone

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #969
Brylowes said:
The Google map I'm looking at on my I pad show buildings and car park on that site, so I take
it they've gone now have they?

Must be showing me old maps
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No, why would they have gone? As far as I know there isn't planning permission for anything else on the site yet.
 

Brylowes

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #970
Rusty Trombone said:
No, why would they have gone? As far as I know there isn't planning permission for anything else on the site yet.
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Erm because Otis identified it as a plot of derelict land , when I googled it there are buildings
and a car park on it, that's all .
 

chiefdave

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #971
Looking on street map it looks like part of it is still in use by National Grid to park their vans. Rest of the site is overgrown and deteriorating.

Doesn't look like they've actually done anything other than just use a piece of spare land so in may just be in use until something else is built there. There are some houses and a church (gospel hall?) on the border of the site and its surrounded by housing and pretty narrow roads.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #972
Brylowes said:
Erm because Otis identified it as a plot of derelict land , when I googled it there are buildings
and a car park on it, that's all .
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Ok, I guess I got confused when you replied to me, when you were referring to something someone else said.
 

Brylowes

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #973
chiefdave said:
Looking on street map it looks like part of it is still in use by National Grid to park their vans. Rest of the site is overgrown and deteriorating.

Doesn't look like they've actually done anything other than just use a piece of spare land so in may just be in use until something else is built there. There are some houses and a church (gospel hall?) on the border of the site and its surrounded by housing and pretty narrow roads.
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Thanks Dave , so the larger building is still there but empty & derelict,
You don't get that detail from above.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #974
chiefdave said:
Ricoh (just the stadium bowl itself, not the halls) is about 8 acres.

This is a good tool to use to find out: https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-area-calculator-tool.htm
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Aston Martin were offered Browns lane 22 acres
Appreciate a stadium is different to a factory but it generates a 1000 jobs?
Aston Martin wanted it dirt cheap
But chose Wales instead
 

Brylowes

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #975
dongonzalos said:
Aston Martin were offered Browns lane 22 acres
Appreciate a stadium is different to a factory but it generates a 1000 jobs?
Aston Martin wanted it dirt cheap
But chose Wales instead
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That would be about same distance from city centre as Ricoh, but more rural a lot of green fields
between there and city centre. Mind you can see that area being swallowed up and built on in
next 20 years or so.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #976
Brylowes said:
That would be about same distance from city centre as Ricoh, but more rural a lot of green fields
between there and city centre. Mind you can see that area being swallowed up and built on in
next 20 years or so.
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Houses or our brew stadium at 40k capacity plus a training/academy set up. Also room for parking. Aston Martin flagged up fir it who pulled out. So how about putting both sides to the test. See who really is bluffing?
 
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Brylowes

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #977
dongonzalos said:
Houses or our brew stadium at 40k capacity plus a training/academy set up. Also room for parking. Aston Martin flagged up fir it who pulled out. So how about putting both sides to the test. See who really is bluffing?
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That whole area from M6 at keresley down to Allseley will probably get built up , the green belt lobby
are loosing the battle I think. People would moan about the stadium being out there , as they moan
about the Ricoh being to remote.
 
Last edited: May 22, 2016

Hobo

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #978
Otis said:
For anyone wondering about this location, it's opposite the Belgrade Plaza car park, on the other side of the ring road, down from the fire station. Radford Road to the right, Abbott's Lane above and St. Osburg's to the left.
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Potentially ear marked for West Midlands Police as Little Park Street is due for closure. And looks far too tight to be viable for football stadium.
 

Otis

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #979
Brylowes said:
Erm because Otis identified it as a plot of derelict land , when I googled it there are buildings
and a car park on it, that's all .
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I go past it regularly and there is nothing built there. It's an empty space.
 

Otis

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #980
Hobo said:
Potentially ear marked for West Midlands Police as Little Park Street is due for closure. And looks far too tight to be viable for football stadium.
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Well yeah, that's what I wondered, but from the aerial view on that map it looks almost exactly the same size area as the Butts.
 
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