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Match Thread Burnley FC - Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 26th November 19.45 ko (4 Viewers)

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clint van damme

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #71
shmmeee said:
“Edge of our box”

The hysteria around Dasilva is reaching record levels.

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That's still a poor area to lose a ball and it was the start of the passage of play that lead to their 2nd goal, hardly hysteria.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #72
clint van damme said:
That's still a poor area to lose a ball and it was the start of the passage of play that lead to their 2nd goal, hardly hysteria.
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Everything is hyped up. “He was out of position” (he wasn’t) “He gave the ball away on the edge of the box” (Eccles lost a 50/50 in the middle of the pitch)
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #73
Considering we thought we would not get anything from Sunderland and Sheff U. Players should be positive and enjoy themselves. You never know with the result…
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #74
shmmeee said:
Everything is hyped up. “He was out of position” (he wasn’t) “He gave the ball away on the edge of the box” (Eccles lost a 50/50 in the middle of the pitch)
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It's really not. He's quite clearly a liability. When you're the one who gets mainly targeted in a defence as poor as ours it speaks volumes.
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #75
Block16Dave said:
Went to buy a ticket for this tonight as my work plans mean I can be in the north Tuesday and Wednesday and ticket site says sold out! Good if true but don’t believe it, feels like a ticketmaster blip with a 2300 allocation
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they're available this morning
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #76
clint van damme said:
Dasilva is clearly targeted by other teams. Hes definitely seen as someone they can get joy against.

We do have other defensive failings though, there's no denying that.
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shmmeee said:
Everything is hyped up. “He was out of position” (he wasn’t) “He gave the ball away on the edge of the box” (Eccles lost a 50/50 in the middle of the pitch)
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Well it might have been Sheaf or Torp as Eccles is out near the touchline if he's in the orange boots which I think are his?
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #77
shmmeee said:
Everything is hyped up. “He was out of position” (he wasn’t) “He gave the ball away on the edge of the box” (Eccles lost a 50/50 in the middle of the pitch)
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For the first goal he was ball watching, for the 2 Nd goal he played a poor ball that wasn't exactly a 50/50 ball to Eccles. He's way to short for a modern full back too.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #78
clint van damme said:
It's really not. He's quite clearly a liability. When you're the one who gets mainly targeted in a defence as poor as ours it speaks volumes.
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He doesn’t though. You’re just doing the football fan thing of taking a dislike to a player and blaming everything on them.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #79
shmmeee said:
He doesn’t though. You’re just doing the football fan thing of taking a dislike to a player and blaming everything on them.
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Dislike, haha!
Him, along with Lati, are two of the most likable fellas in the squad. But he/they doesn't cut it on the pitch unfortunately.

Which is a shame because they also seem to have a far better attitude than some players I could mention.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #80
shmmeee said:
He doesn’t though. You’re just doing the football fan thing of taking a dislike to a player and blaming everything on them.
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What like you've pretty much done with Thomas? Those in glass houses Shmmeee....
 
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edgy

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #81
shmmeee said:
“Edge of our box”

The hysteria around Dasilva is reaching record levels.

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That's not where he lost us possession. He played a shit loopy ball into a shit area. With that amount of opponents around him and Eccles, it should've gone line or long.

 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #82
edgy said:
That's not where he lost us possession. He played a shit loopy ball into a shit area. With that amount of opponents around him and Eccles, it should've gone line or long.

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If the opposition wins the ball from a goal kick did the keeper give it away in the box?

And “a shit area” = where our entire midfield was at the time.

It was a poor pass but people are making out it was like Rudoni vs Derby.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #83
Is that Rudoni calling for a forward pass? I know we like AAATB, but sometimes just clearing your lines is the best course of action. It’s not outdated or old-fashioned, it’s safety first in some positions.
 
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edgy

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #84
shmmeee said:
If the opposition wins the ball from a goal kick did the keeper give it away in the box?

And “a shit area” = where our entire midfield was at the time.

It was a poor pass but people are making out it was like Rudoni vs Derby.
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There is no relevance where our midfield were at the time, it's still a shit area regardless. Rudoni makes the line run. MVE is wide, it could've been switched. I actually think JDS tries to slide it to Sheaf, but it loops up and gives Torp no chance.

Both Rudoni's and JDS passes were poor and led to opposition goals. So ultimately.......
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #85
Was a poor ball from Dasilva but that kind of thing will happen multiple times per game, you can't blame him for the goal.

Watching it back, could Milan have done more? He doesn't even get into a full sprint trying to get back. And Lati is like a statue defending the man that actually scores, he runs all the way around him.
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #86
Sky Blue Wozza said:
Same starting team. Grind out a draw.

Then start EMC and Saka against Cardiff and unleash hell.
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Been watching Gladiator?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #87
edgy said:
There is no relevance where our midfield were at the time, it's still a shit area regardless. Rudoni makes the line run. MVE is wide, it could've been switched. I actually think JDS tries to slide it to Sheaf, but it loops up and gives Torp no chance.

Both Rudoni's and JDS passes were poor and led to opposition goals. So ultimately.......
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The ball is bouncing around he couldn’t “slide it” to anyone.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #88
skybluecam said:
Was a poor ball from Dasilva but that kind of thing will happen multiple times per game, you can't blame him for the goal.

Watching it back, could Milan have done more? He doesn't even get into a full sprint trying to get back. And Lati is like a statue defending the man that actually scores, he runs all the way around him.
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Our defence is poor. Every goal has several errors from different people because our defence is poor. Until that changes I’m not sure you can make too many solid judgements on individuals. We’ve seen last season under Lawrence some of these players look like different players with a proper defensive setup.
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #89
Sick Boy said:
Do you actually say period rather than full stop?
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Oh no, full stop. Do we have to say full stop after every entence, full stop.
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #90
shmmeee said:
Our defence is poor. Every goal has several errors from different people because our defence is poor. Until that changes I’m not sure you can make too many solid judgements on individuals. We’ve seen last season under Lawrence some of these players look like different players with a proper defensive setup.
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Agreed. That's why I'm not on board with those saying we need to bin our defenders and start again.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #91
clint van damme said:
When you're the one who gets mainly targeted in a defence as poor as ours it speaks volumes.
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37% of Sheff U's attacks came down our left and 36% down our right. So Dasilva was targeted a whole 1% more than MVE!

We had a whopping 45% of attacks down their left, so Burrows must be REALLY shit.
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #92
same team and formation for me from the start

We were the better team even before the red card and the 2 counter goals they scored.

being able to bring on Saka and EMC is a huge advantage

if we can scrape a win that would be a huge set of 3 games for us and Carr. Draw would be ok too!
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #93
Gibbo said:
4-5-1 Only changes would be Lati & Da Silva out, Bidwell and Saka in. Pack the midfield
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Bidwell looked very rusty. I can't see us risking him. I may be wrong though of course.
 
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sixfoursix

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #94
Evo1883 said:
They rarely concede and score little

Screams a 2-0 defeat if you add in our frailties at the back
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Sheff Utd had only conceded 1 more before Saturday. With any luck we can avoid defeat.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #95
PVA said:
37% of Sheff U's attacks came down our left and 36% down our right. So Dasilva was targeted a whole 1% more than MVE!

We had a whopping 45% of attacks down their left, so Burrows must be REALLY shit.
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That really doesn't mean he doesn't get targeted.
And it's not just one game.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #96
shmmeee said:
Everything is hyped up. “He was out of position” (he wasn’t) “He gave the ball away on the edge of the box” (Eccles lost a 50/50 in the middle of the pitch)
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Andy Hincliffe was the co-commentator on Sky and he made comment on Da Silva's positioning - I'd suggest he knows better than you. He'd left too big a gap between him and Binks which was exposed.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #97
edgy said:
That's not where he lost us possession. He played a shit loopy ball into a shit area. With that amount of opponents around him and Eccles, it should've gone line or long.

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The frustrating bit about that is he did the hardest bit nicely and got the ball under control, he had Rudoni ahead of him down the line and chose to play a ball inside, look at the number of Sheff Utd shirts ready if it gets turned over. Very naive play (although I do think having watched again Torp I wonder whether Torp needs to do better than just hang a leg, get your body in there at least)
 
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edgy

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #98
fernandopartridge said:
The frustrating bit about that is he did the hardest bit nicely and got the ball under control, he had Rudoni ahead of him down the line and chose to play a ball inside, look at the number of Sheff Utd shirts ready if it gets turned over. Very naive play (although I do think having watched again Torp I wonder whether Torp needs to do better than just hang a leg, get your body in there at least)
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More I watch it, the more sloppy it looks. 1st choice has to be Rudoni, line ball. I do think he gets the pass wrong to Sheaf and it ends up being a really difficult ball to Torp.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #99
edgy said:
More I watch it, the more sloppy it looks. 1st choice has to be Rudoni, line ball. I do think he gets the pass wrong to Sheaf and it ends up being a really difficult ball to Torp.
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Once he moves inside he’s always in trouble as he never wants to use his right foot
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #100
edgy said:
More I watch it, the more sloppy it looks. 1st choice has to be Rudoni, line ball. I do think he gets the pass wrong to Sheaf and it ends up being a really difficult ball to Torp.
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Yeah he’s clearly over hit it, there’s nothing wrong with the choice of pass, people are just picking screenshots apart and forgetting footballers play in real time first person view.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #101
Grendel said:
Once he moves inside he’s always in trouble as he never wants to use his right foot
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Jay Dasilva is of course famously the only one footed player in history.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #102
shmmeee said:
Yeah he’s clearly over hit it, there’s nothing wrong with the choice of pass, people are just picking screenshots apart and forgetting footballers play in real time first person view.
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It would've made more sense to make a short pass to Sheaf surely? He made quite a nice run into space and from that position could've thread a pretty straightforward ball to Rudoni. Then we would've been on the break.

There was literally nothing to be gained from passing to Torp who had Souza visibly on him.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #103
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It would've made more sense to make a short pass to Sheaf surely? He made quite a nice run into space and from that position could've thread a pretty straightforward ball to Rudoni. Then we would've been on the break.

There was literally nothing to be gained from passing to Torp who had Souza visibly on him.
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That’s why I say it was overhit. It looked like an overhit pass to Sheaf (if that’s who is just behind Torp).
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #104
shmmeee said:
That’s why I say it was overhit. It looked like an overhit pass to Sheaf (if that’s who is just behind Torp).
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Could be. It's very overhit though. To the point where it's a good foot in front of him and at near head height.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 25, 2024
  • #105
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Could be. It's very overhit though. To the point where it's a good foot in front of him and at near head height.
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Yeah he’s thought he can flick it through to Sheaf and he’s put too much on it, I don’t think Carr would complain about him trying to make that pass rather than lumping it clear or trying to switch it.

Like I say I try not to unpick every goal too much right now. We are conceding so many poor goals right now with mistakes across the board. There’s far bigger defensive issues than individuals right now. Binks Lats MvE and Thomas also all made mistakes in the build up, arguably Collins could have got down quicker for one, etc etc.
 
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