Match Thread Bristol City (A) 24th August 12:30 KO (7 Viewers)

larry_david · Aug 25, 2024

We were shite, sure, but let's not overlook it's taken a once in a life time flying top corner volley to actually score past us.

The panicking on here is tragic. We know SBT is an over the top world of emotions one way or another but a 1-1 at Bristol who have won 6 in a row at home in the league, whilst playing poorly, is a decent result.

We have to move on and focus on the next now. Yes there are concerns but for christ sake everyone calm down

clint van damme · Aug 25, 2024

larry_david said:
We were shite, sure, but let's not overlook it's taken a once in a life time flying top corner volley to actually score past us.

The panicking on here is tragic. We know SBT is an over the top world of emotions one way or another but a 1-1 at Bristol who have won 6 in a row at home in the league, whilst playing poorly, is a decent result.

We have to move on and focus on the next now. Yes there are concerns but for christ sake everyone calm down

Not sure too many are panicking just pointing out what have, up until now, been fairly glaring deficiencies in our play.

larry_david · Aug 25, 2024

clint van damme said:
Not sure too many are panicking just pointing out what have, up until now, been fairly glaring deficiencies in our play.

Oh Clint there's alot of panicking on here!

pusbccfc · Aug 25, 2024

Winny the Bish said:
Listened to that new cov podcast and they had Karen Carney on who made some good points that boiled down to:

1) a point on the road is good
2) BC won the tactical game. They packed the midfield, always had spare options to pass to, and we were overrun because of it.
3) Dovin should’ve been 20 yards further out of goal when we’re in possession to become an extra player and push the rest of the team further forward.
4) Eccles was playing a pointless game. MVE is amazing, he doesn’t need Eccles to screen him all the time.

She was excellent. The point about MVE/Eccles is spot on. You are wasting a position if you've got someone covering MVE. He's good enough to do a job on his own.

Unfortunately, some people won't like what she say as always.

Mcbean · Aug 25, 2024

larry_david said:
We were shite, sure, but let's not overlook it's taken a once in a life time flying top corner volley to actually score past us.

The panicking on here is tragic. We know SBT is an over the top world of emotions one way or another but a 1-1 at Bristol who have won 6 in a row at home in the league, whilst playing poorly, is a decent result.

We have to move on and focus on the next now. Yes there are concerns but for christ sake everyone calm down

I am considering opening a Bedwetters thread where people can vent and nobody else has to read !

skybluegod · Aug 25, 2024

Mcbean said:
I am considering opening a Bedwetters thread where people can vent and nobody else has to read !

It will end being the only thread on here actually in use...

GIMOC · Aug 25, 2024

2 shots on target in 180 mins away from home is concerning

the lack of urgency going forward away from home is worrying

most concerning for me, the lack of creativity in the final 3rd

this is where we miss ohare

Flying Fokker · Aug 25, 2024

Tommo1993 said:
Home.

Dovin made a few good saves, his punches are gonna land us in trouble though.
Not convinced that Binks is the calm, assured head he’s made out to be.
Rudoni, Eccles, Torp all poor. But seriously, in general, what is Torp offering to this team. Never thought I’d say it, but Palmer gives us more. Personally have seen enough of Torp.
Sakamoto looked terrified and knackered.
We knew Wright was better on the left, so I’m sort of wondering why we signed EMC just to throw him on the right where he’s no good.
Simms absolutely fuck all to feed off.
BTA is a good signing and should be starting games.

If it’s another season of turning up in the 65th minute, then it’s another season below top 6.

What took you, a Charabanc?

duffer · Aug 25, 2024

Clarkey_CCFC said:
Careful, happy clap crew will attack you.

Jeez, happy-clappers vs bedwetters. There's nowt like a disparaging label to replace sensible debate.

I'm not seeing much in the way of "attacks" here mate, just some differences in opinion.

If you've got a point, then make it. If you don't like it being challenged, then maybe this forum isn't the right place for you.

Grendel · Aug 25, 2024

CovValleyBoy said:
I thought Rudoni certainly worked hard. He was though a bit headless . There's a player in there and the intro' of Sheaf will settle us and make the midfield tick.

I should hope there’s a player in there - he’s played 200 professional games.

He wasn’t looking for the ball once we were under pressure

procdoc · Aug 25, 2024

Grendel said:
I should hope there’s a player in there - he’s played 200 professional games.

He wasn’t looking for the ball once we were under pressure

I think he needs to play deeper. He was far more involved when Torp went off

GIMOC · Aug 25, 2024

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
A lot of player are not yet playing to the level we expect. We can forgive the likes of Sakamoto who's been out for ages and needs time . The new players coming in need time .
On the plus side I like the look of the new keeper.
It doesn't need all 11 on the pitch to perform at the top of their game for us to transform from what looks a mid table team into play off contenders. It needs 4-5 to find their feet and get going again which will enable the rest to fit in . This league is not about winning every game but it is about going on a series of runs of form. You can win 10 and lose 10 and be in the top 6 as a result. We know this from the last two seasons.

9 of the 10 starting outfield players were with us last season

the gelling excuse is rubbish

We’ve won 2 of our last 11 league games

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 25, 2024

Grendel said:
I should hope there’s a player in there - he’s played 200 professional games.

He wasn’t looking for the ball once we were under pressure

Last 20 he was much better

Sick Boy · Aug 25, 2024

GIMOC said:
9 of the 10 starting outfield players were with us last season

the gelling excuse is rubbish

We’ve won 2 of our last 11 league games

Pretty sure the last win before Oxford was Leeds at the start of April.

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 25, 2024

Sick Boy said:
Pretty sure the last win before Oxford was Leeds at the start of April.

Correct, and I think the Blackburn game is the only league clean sheet in a very long time too.

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 25, 2024

GIMOC said:
9 of the 10 starting outfield players were with us last season

the gelling excuse is rubbish

We’ve won 2 of our last 11 league games

You think robins won’t solve it? Cos he’s not done it in the last 7 years
Have some faith man

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 25, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Correct, and I think the Blackburn game is the only league clean sheet in a very long time too.

Let’s sack him and move on
Bloody hell

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 25, 2024

Sky Blue Pete said:
Let’s sack him and move on
Bloody hell

That is one hell of a jump from stating a fact about clean sheets

GIMOC · Aug 25, 2024

Sky Blue Pete said:
You think robins won’t solve it? Cos he’s not done it in the last 7 years
Have some faith man

what are you on about?

where have I said that?

Just stating facts. we’ve spent a lot of money and the form table suggests we’ve not progressed and tbf the performances are showing that too

Sky Blue Goblin · Aug 25, 2024

GIMOC said:
We can’t rely on asante for goals. he’s not a finisher. anyone who seen him shooting in the warm ups will testify

hes a nuisance to defend. Ideal to bring on from the bench

Teams thwart the width like yesterday. we have little flair down the middle

On that note then we could always start wright and EMC on the left when Raphael is fit.

Reason I think BTA would be good is as you say he’s a nuisance and any balls headed on by simms or defenders he’d be all over.

On the flair point. I mean we’d have flair by Jack, Tats and EMC once he’s up to it. On the system it very rarely plays how it looks these days and would more expect the wingers to play more inward allowing the wingbacks to stretch the play.

Just my thoughts but understand the issues it could cause but just think it would help simms from being so isolated and allow us to put our best players on the pitch.

Grendel · Aug 25, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
That is one hell of a jump from stating a fact about clean sheets

Its 2 wins in 11 league games now

GIMOC · Aug 25, 2024

Sky Blue Goblin said:
On that note then we could always start wright and EMC on the left when Raphael is fit.

Reason I think BTA would be good is as you say he’s a nuisance and any balls headed on by simms or defenders he’d be all over.

On the flair point. I mean we’d have flair by Jack, Tats and EMC once he’s up to it. On the system it very rarely plays how it looks these days and would more expect the wingers to play more inward allowing the wingbacks to stretch the play.

Just my thoughts but understand the issues it could cause but just think it would help simms from being so isolated and allow us to put our best players on the pitch.

for me our dangerous play comes from out wide. Bristol and Stoke both closed down that threat

when we try and play through the middle its predictable, slow and sideways

Bristol yesterday got in good positions from 3 or 4 passes

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 25, 2024

Grendel said:
Its 2 wins in 11 league games now

Fairly sure it’s two league clean sheets in 2024

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 25, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
That is one hell of a jump from stating a fact about clean sheets

Sorry it’s just reading so much nonsense
We need to find our mojo sheaf will help and we need that stamenic signing
Robins always finds a way let’s have some patience

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 25, 2024

GIMOC said:
for me our dangerous play comes from out wide. Bristol and Stoke both closed down that threat

when we try and play through the middle its predictable, slow and sideways

Bristol yesterday got in good positions from 3 or 4 passes

Yeah 0.64 wow they earned their 1-1

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 25, 2024

GIMOC said:
what are you on about?

where have I said that?

Just stating facts. we’ve spent a lot of money and the form table suggests we’ve not progressed and tbf the performances are showing that too

I’m saying chill
Last years issue is not this years
New season new team

larry_david · Aug 25, 2024

Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m saying chill
Last years issue is not this years
New season new team

Agreed

It's clear we're still trying to work out our fluidity in play. Marathon not a sprint

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 25, 2024

GIMOC said:
for me our dangerous play comes from out wide. Bristol and Stoke both closed down that threat

when we try and play through the middle its predictable, slow and sideways

Bristol yesterday got in good positions from 3 or 4 passes

Dangerous play comes from getting the ball up the pitch with one or two touch passing and some off the ball movement. For our players it’s either 3 or 4 touches before sending it backwards or sideways.

Nothing beats seeing us attempt triangles in our own box under a press though.

clint van damme · Aug 25, 2024

Grendel said:
Its 2 wins in 11 league games now

I think it's a but disingenuous to tag on games from the end of last season, especially as I'm convinced the cup run had a huge affect on league form.
However, there are clearly issues from the 3 league games so far this season that need ironing out.

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 25, 2024

Sky Blue Pete said:
Sorry it’s just reading so much nonsense
We need to find our mojo sheaf will help and we need that stamenic signing
Robins always finds a way let’s have some patience

Just stating a fact Pete. MR is adopting safety first tactics yet we concede in essentially every game.

Sky Blue Goblin · Aug 25, 2024

GIMOC said:
for me our dangerous play comes from out wide. Bristol and Stoke both closed down that threat

when we try and play through the middle its predictable, slow and sideways

Bristol yesterday got in good positions from 3 or 4 passes

Don’t really disagree with that in regards to wide. But from the match Bristol dominated the match from just breaking out high press due to the low line the defence held.

One of my big points of advocacy for the 4-4-2 is how compact it’ll make our team in defence where as a 4-2-3-1 is always a bit too heavy.

Also the beauty of modern football is how fluid it can be. So playing a 4-4-2 with inverted wingers doesn’t mean that if we’re struggling through the middle we can’t push out wide when needed.

I actually think how we attack at the moment is a big problem because we’re so predictable. We either passed it out wide and looked for the overlapped or tried to use the Channels for simms. We’ve got to be able to mix it up to disrupt teams defence gameplay.

covcity4life · Aug 25, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Just stating a fact Pete. MR is adopting safety first tactics yet we concede in essentially every game.

He has said consistently that the players are not being brave on the ball and doing what's asked of them

I think he wants to play attacking football now

We will get there

Seymour_East · Aug 25, 2024

GIMOC said:
what are you on about?

where have I said that?

Just stating facts. we’ve spent a lot of money and the form table suggests we’ve not progressed and tbf the performances are showing that too

GIMOC · Aug 25, 2024

larry_david said:
Agreed

It's clear we're still trying to work out our fluidity in play. Marathon not a sprint

you ignoring the fact that 9 of the 10 outfield players were with us last season.

worrying if we still can’t find that fluidity as you say?

GIMOC · Aug 25, 2024

Seymour_East said:
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