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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #351
quinn1971 said:
Luckily it’s not up to you, Wilson is better than Collins ( not a very high bar ) it should have been dovin and Wilson as back up,we didn’t even need to sign Collins, we only did because somebody thought signing half the Barnsley defence would be a good idea, he’s costing us a play off spot and you seem ok with it ? He needs dropping
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Of course it’s not up to me but both Robins and Lampard know a hell of a lot more about the squad and football in general than any of us on here.
 

Shannerz

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #352
stevefloyd said:
Wheres Simon Moore when you want him
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Simon Moore, in that second season up, is by far the best keeper we've had since promotion.
 
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Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #353
To save on all the arguing can we put it down to just a few points?

Collins is shite, Wilson is shite and if we could play both at the same time we still wouldn't have much confidence in them.
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #354
Shannerz said:
Simon Moore, in that second season up, is by far the best keeper we've had since promotion.
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You don't think Dovin's shown enough yet?
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #355
Sick Boy said:
Of course it’s not up to me but both Robins and Lampard know a hell of a lot more about the squad and football in general than any of us on here.
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Not quite sure they know what defines a good keeper though, didn’t robins drop dovin for Collins and lampard keeps picking Collins ?
 
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The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #356
Some saying “Robins and Frank rate Collins higher”

To be fair, Wilson got the nod until injury, that’s point 1. Point 2; Oggy (who I think knows more about goalkeeping than Frank, Robins and the entire SBT forum combined) seems to (listening to commentary) rate Wilson higher.
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #357
Just drop Collins, problem solved, if Wilson comes in and plays well it’s worth it if he comes in and is just a dodgy as Collins wer‘e no worse off, got to be worth a try though, you need experience at this stage, Wilson was one of the reasons we got to a play off final
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #358
quinn1971 said:
Not quite sure they know what defines a good keeper though, didn’t robins drop dovin for Collins and lampard keeps picking Collins ?
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I think they have enough experience from playing the game professionally. As I said, if Wilson was that good he’d have never been replaced by Collins last season.
 

Shannerz

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #359
mmttww said:
You don't think Dovin's shown enough yet?
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He hasn't played a full season yet, but I imagine he'll turn out very good indeed.

(Also I forgot about him when I typed that).

Moore was excellent that season, though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #360
Saddlebrains said:
Every Brad Collins fuck up for your evening viewing lads


How anyone can defend this is dont know.......

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Jesus wept it’s too much cringe in one place to watch in full. To be the subject of it…shit
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #361
Sick Boy said:
I think they have enough experience from playing the game professionally. As I said, if Wilson was that good he’d have never been replaced by Collins last season.
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I've never been a fan of Collins.
But he's nowhere near the level now that he was when he replaced Wilson.

Im genuinely bemused by people defending him
He's costing us goals on analyst weekly basis.

If Wilson died in his sleep, I'd still put his lifeless body on the goal line and back it to be more effective than Collins!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #362
The Philosopher said:
Some saying “Robins and Frank rate Collins higher”

To be fair, Wilson got the nod until injury, that’s point 1. Point 2; Oggy (who I think knows more about goalkeeping than Frank, Robins and the entire SBT forum combined) seems to (listening to commentary) rate Wilson higher.
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Let's face it, Oggy would rate Wilson over Buffon. He clearly rates Wilson over Dovin too.
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #363
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Jesus wept it’s too much cringe in one place to watch in full. To be the subject of it…shit
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Fuck me. How can people dedend this?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #364
clint van damme said:
I've never been a fan of Collins.
But he's nowhere near the level now that he was when he replaced Wilson.

Im genuinely bemused by people defending him
He's costing us goals on analyst weekly basis.

If Wilson died in his sleep, I'd still put his lifeless body on the goal line and back it to be more effective than Collins!
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Im not defending him, neither of them are good enough. Wilson was equally as bad at the start of last season and rightfully lost his place.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #365
clint van damme said:
Fuck me. How can people dedend this?
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I was explaining the second hand cringe I got watching it on his behalf. It’s just terrible
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #366
Sick Boy said:
Im not defending him, neither of them are good enough.
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But Wilson is still miles ahead of Collins and should be playing. That's how poor Collins is.

Look at the tweet linked above, we've had one calamity keeper after another for years but none of them can match that hilight reel, it's fucking tragic
 
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shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #367
clint van damme said:
Fuck me. How can people dedend this?
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There are at least two missing from that off the top of my head too.
Man Utds 1st and one of the Sunderland goals.
 

JulianDarbyFTW

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #368
Must be tough for the manager. Change of keeper from one who can play out from the back to one who can't likely means a fairly significant change in patterns of play, build up, positioning and so on. So do you keep it as is and hope for the best or risk changing things up? Tough call.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #369
clint van damme said:
Look at the tweet linked above, we've had one calamity keeper after another for years but none of them can match that hilight reel, it's fucking tragic
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Dovin has also made some clangers, seem to remember people getting excited about some of his because they wanted to slate him.

If somebody makes a highlight reel with an agenda then you can make it look however you want.

This isn't defending him, I have also said I'd prefer Wilson in if he's fully fit.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #370
Nick said:
Dovin has also made some clangers, seem to remember people getting excited about some of his because they wanted to slate him.

If somebody makes a highlight reel with an agenda then you can make it look however you want.

This isn't defending him, I have also said I'd prefer Wilson in if he's fully fit.
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You don't need an agenda to see how poor Collins is.
I genuinely feel sorry for him and think he needs dropping for his own good as much as anything else.
Dovin does drop clangers, if he didn't he'd be playing for Man City not Coventry City, but this season Collins has been another level.

He must be like Lev Yashin in training
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #371
shepardo01 said:
There are at least two missing from that off the top of my head too.
Man Utds 1st and one of the Sunderland goals.
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I'd say 3rd against Plymouth is st least as bad as the 1st. 2nd worst of the 3 and rightfully in there.
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #372
clint van damme said:
He must be like Lev Yashin in training
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Yeah but he's only facing our strikers!
 
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shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #373
rob9872 said:
I'd say 3rd against Plymouth is st least as bad as the 1st. 2nd worst of the 3 and rightfully in there.
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Was the third not on there!?!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #374
rob9872 said:
I'd say 3rd against Plymouth is st least as bad as the 1st. 2nd worst of the 3 and rightfully in there.
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This is how bad it is, he's got his own edition of shit keeper top trumps
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #375
shepardo01 said:
Was the third not on there!?!
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Perhaps I'd had enough, I thought it ended at the 2nd
 

JulianDarbyFTW

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #376
In the hall of unreliable goalkeeping fame, where does he sit? We've had some whoppers over the years. Burge, Debec, Dimi, the legend that is Eric McManus (one for the kidz), Nuzzo, Ireland. There's quite a competition for the title.
 

shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #377
clint van damme said:
You don't need an agenda to see how poor Collins is.
I genuinely feel sorry for him and think he needs dropping for his own good as much as anything else.
Dovin does drop clangers, if he didn't he'd be playing for Man City not Coventry City, but this season Collins has been another level.

He must be like Lev Yashin in training
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It speaks volumes when other teams have threads on him. (Sunderland apparently)
and apparently prevalent in Luton's match thread comments.

The worst Wilson/Tyler/Bella can be is as bad as Collins.

Totally worth a gamble.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #378
shepardo01 said:
It speaks volumes when other teams have threads on him. (Sunderland apparently)
and apparently prevalent in Luton's match thread comments.

The worst Wilson/Tyler/Bella can be is as bad as Collins.

Totally worth a gamble.
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Mindset is vital for a keeper and his is in the bin. Wilson has more bouncebackability, comparable actual ability
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #379
For all the 'Collins is better playing the ball' there's more than one goal in there where there's been a complete fuck up trying to play it back to him.
 
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Dickie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #380
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Mindset is vital for a keeper and his is in the bin. Wilson has more bouncebackability, comparable actual ability
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Exactly. He’s thick as mince and doesn’t seem to let fuck ups bother him. Whereas Collins - as seen many times on that compilation - is often distraught. That one from last season where he’s nearly hitting himself on the head after a mistake - not nice to see.
 
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Bristol sky blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #381
Perhaps a protest is called for at Luton: our fans smuggle in as many poppadums as possible and wave them up in the air when Collins flaps and misses the ball then launch them at him like frisbees when he punches the ground in frustration when the ball is in our net yet again.

Proper tribute to poppadum wrists in goal.

PS obvs I am joking, but sadly I can't see Lampard dropping him...
 

Nuskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #382
quinn1971 said:
The 2nd Southampton goal that’s enough on its own, there’s a couple in there not his fault but the ones that are
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Some of the earlier examples look as if he is trying not to save the ball, I swear he pulls his hand away from a few of those.
 
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The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #383
chiefdave said:
For all the 'Collins is better playing the ball' there's more than one goal in there where there's been a complete fuck up trying to play it back to him.
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Yes, for all of Collins “better kicking accuracy” I still rate Wilson for being able to spot a run and bowl / throw to breakaway.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #384
Will say one thing… If Wilson plays Saturday. He’s under immense pressure not to bollock up
 
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rob9872

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #385
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Will say one thing… If Wilson plays Saturday. He’s under immense pressure not to bollock up
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Tbf if he only chucks 2 in we're a goal in front.
 
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