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Otis

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  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #176
Moff said:
Apologies if this has already been covered but Otis do you seriously think peace talks will now happen just because Chris Millerchip has asked?
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No, I think we all need to ask and get as many people involved in this mess to ask for the same thing.

One bloke isn't going to make a jot of difference.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #177
AFCCOVENTRY said:
We can today show @covtelegraph alters publication times to claim exclusives. Before formal complaint, journo must now remove Twitter games
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Just seen it, so Simon has adjusted the time on the article and given it loads about exclusives or something?
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #178
skybluetony176 said:
Oh, well if you were told I take it all back. It was clearly a given then.

Just one question. If the planners don't see it as a problem where are the plans?
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You do know you can speak to Planning department's for their thoughts and for advice on issues, before submitting plans don't you? Obviously not.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #179
Otis said:
No, I think we all need to ask and get as many people involved in this mess to ask for the same thing.

One bloke isn't going to make a jot of difference.
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What would the same thing be though?
 
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kmj5000

Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #180
skybluetony176 said:
Block what turn? The turn we were never going to take?

No one wants to deal with SISU. They have to go and the sooner the better.
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armybike said:
I see this "EXCLUSIVE" from Reid is actually info lifted from a Cov Telegraph article -

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-ground-share-butts-11477087
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A typical, vitriolic, non-exclusive, recycled piece from a has-been journalist working for a second-rate free newspaper.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #181
kmj5000 said:
A typical, vitriolic, non-exclusive, recycled piece from a has-been journalist working for a second-rate free newspaper.
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I think you'll find it was actually the reverse in this instance... Exclusive was the Observer article.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #182
skybluetony176 said:
OK. Where's the properly prepared project then?
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You tell Millerchip to stop playing Lord Chief Justice then and transfer the lease because until then nothing can happen - can it?
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #183
Otis said:
Yep, agree.

Best protest, go and watch Cov rugby, get them winning and then try and convince those going to watch Wasps to go and watch Cov instead.
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CRFC gates were down 8000 last season - that is a lot to them
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #184
Moff said:
You do know you can speak to Planning department's for their thoughts and for advice on issues, before submitting plans don't you? Obviously not.
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So has someone from SISU spoken to the planning dept. then? I'd guess that they'd have to go with some sort of a plan. It's going to be yay big and hold this many people isn't going to get any sort of thoughts and advice. They'd have to talk to them with some outline plans at the least on a project of this size.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #185
skybluetony176 said:
So has someone from SISU spoken to the planning dept. then? I'd guess that they'd have to go with some sort of a plan. It's going to be yay big and hold this many people isn't going to get any sort of thoughts and advice. They'd have to talk to them with some outline plans at the least on a project of this size.
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Go away little man and do your fishing elsewhere! Try the Sowe next to AEHC

You know perfectly well it is CRFC or Millerchip are the only people who can talk to CCC planners NOT SISU
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #186
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Land is being cleared on Bermuda but it is to small for everything they want, probably for Wasps expansion it Warwickshire so they could have the city of rugby and the town of rugby.​
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That is Nuneaton, it isn't a viable location.

On a related issue I noticed with some concern that TM called a 'Nuneaton Town' pre-season fixture a #home' game.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/coventry-city-pre-season-tony-11473019
I thought that was a bit odd, I hope it is nothing more than some loose language from the manager (& maybe a bit of an attempt to generate controversy by the CT).
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #187
Captain Dart said:
That is Nuneaton, it isn't a viable location.

On a related issue I noticed with some concern that TM called a 'Nuneaton Town' pre-season fixture a #home' game.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/coventry-city-pre-season-tony-11473019
I thought that was a bit odd, I hope it is nothing more than some loose language from the manager (& maybe a bit of an attempt to generate controversy by the CT).
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I think its a bit of a dig at wasps not allowing us to have home friendly. Nothing more than that.

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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #188
Nick said:
Not half as embarrassing as Coventry being a city of rugby.
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If Coventry is going to be the city of rugby then let's make it the city of Coventry rugby.

Just thinking, Nick, is it worth starting another sub-forum, or having a sticky, where Cov's fixtures and results can be put up, along with ticket prices and special offers etc.?
The more people we can get away from Wasps and to the Butts the better.

Cov are a team of this city and if the Sky Blues are hamstrung then let's back CRC as best we can and get them a much higher profile.

Never been to a rugby game in my life but I would most certainly consider going if it helped Cov and then in turn benefitted the City too.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #189
stupot07 said:
I think its a bit of a dig at wasps not allowing us to have home friendly. Nothing more than that.

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They could hold a friendly at BPA - would not be more than 5000 there surely?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #190
oldfiver said:
You tell Millerchip to stop playing Lord Chief Justice then and transfer the lease because until then nothing can happen - can it?
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What bollocks. Of course it can. Nothing stopping SISU and CRFC coming up with a plan both financial and building. In fact it would probably help convince Lord Chief Justice Millerchip to transfer the lease if they did come up with a tangible plan that works for both outfits. Also nothing stopping both parties getting an architect involved and drawing up some plans to submit to the planning department. Then we would actually see how well it would be received. Strange that they haven't? Do they actually know if a 25k stadium will fit?
 
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kmj5000

Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #191
What's the problem? We were told 3 years ago by that "..the ship has sailed..” and that we were building our own stadium (with academy combined) to get access to that vital income 365 days and 24/7.

TF then stepped down as CEO in order to concentrate his efforts on the task.

You've been backed into a corner Timmy, so let's get back to your Plan A and bring it on!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #192
oldfiver said:
They could hold a friendly at BPA - would not be more than 5000 there surely?
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How would that restriction work if it wasn't a league game?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #193
Good to see Tony back up the councils arse.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #194
kmj5000 said:
What's the problem? We were told 3 years ago by that "..the ship has sailed..” and that we were building our own stadium (with academy combined) to get access to that vital income 365 days and 24/7.

TF then stepped down as CEO in order to concentrate his efforts on the task.

You've been backed into a corner Timmy, so let's get back to your Plan A and bring it on!
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Think we are down to Plan F now.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #195
Otis said:
If Coventry is going to be the city of rugby then let's make it the city of Coventry rugby.

Just thinking, Nick, is it worth starting another sub-forum, or having a sticky, where Cov's fixtures and results can be put up, along with ticket prices and special offers etc.?
The more people we can get away from Wasps and to the Butts the better.

Cov are a team of this city and if the Sky Blues are hamstrung then let's back CRC as best we can and get them a much higher profile.

Never been to a rugby game in my life but I would most certainly consider going if it helped Cov and then in turn benefitted the City too.
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Horse and Bolted springs to mind.

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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #196
oldfiver said:
They could hold a friendly at BPA - would not be more than 5000 there surely?
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Probably because it hasn't got football goals there at the minute.

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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #197
stupot07 said:
Horse and Bolted springs to mind.

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It's too late to back Cov rugby?

Really?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #198
oldfiver said:
Go away little man and do your fishing elsewhere! Try the Sowe next to AEHC

You know perfectly well it is CRFC or Millerchip are the only people who can talk to CCC planners NOT SISU
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Absolute bollocks. You don't have to own the land to put in for planning permission. Happens all the time little man.

https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200126/applications/59/how_to_apply/3
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #199
skybluetony176 said:
What bollocks. Of course it can. Nothing stopping SISU and CRFC coming up with a plan both financial and building. In fact it would probably help convince Lord Chief Justice Millerchip to transfer the lease if they did come up with a tangible plan that works for both outfits. Also nothing stopping both parties getting an architect involved and drawing up some plans to submit to the planning department. Then we would actually see how well it would be received. Strange that they haven't? Do they actually know if a 25k stadium will fit?
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Really? You can actually get plans drawn up on something you don't own or have the freehold on?

I never knew that.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #200
skybluetony176 said:
What bollocks. Of course it can. Nothing stopping SISU and CRFC coming up with a plan both financial and building. In fact it would probably help convince Lord Chief Justice Millerchip to transfer the lease if they did come up with a tangible plan that works for both outfits. Also nothing stopping both parties getting an architect involved and drawing up some plans to submit to the planning department. Then we would actually see how well it would be received. Strange that they haven't? Do they actually know if a 25k stadium will fit?
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Are you saying that Millerchip has not seen any proposals? CRFC has just decided we have an idea and said "We will just stick up a shed Chris it will be OK" now transfer the property? Millerchip is a cute lawyer he would not have got to this stage without knowing what was planned. It because he knows it knocks his City of Rugby he doesnt like it!!
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #201
Otis said:
It's too late to back Cov rugby?

Really?
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Well wasps are getting 13-14k, they are in the schools, they are PR masters. I'm all for backing cov rugby but I don't think its going to pursuade the likes of Italia to ditch wasps and get behind cov rugby.

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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #202
stupot07 said:
I think its a bit of a dig at wasps not allowing us to have home friendly. Nothing more than that.

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Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #203
Grendel said:
Really? You can actually get plans drawn up on something you don't own or have the freehold on?

I never knew that.
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You can draw up plans but you would not spend a lot of money on getting them through planning without the landowners consent.
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #204
skybluetony176 said:
So has someone from SISU spoken to the planning dept. then? I'd guess that they'd have to go with some sort of a plan. It's going to be yay big and hold this many people isn't going to get any sort of thoughts and advice. They'd have to talk to them with some outline plans at the least on a project of this size.
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So how would anyone know whether SISU had spoken to the Planning Dept? We wouldn't, it doesn't mean it did or didn't happen so what is your point?

Secondly they could have plans, it is feasible that they did, but that doesn't mean they had to be submitted. Thye could of course have spoken to the Planning Dept for their view on the project, and of potential problems and issues. Agaian we will never know, so what is the issue?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #205
stupot07 said:
Probably because it hasn't got football goals there at the minute.

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It doesnt have rugby posts either I think
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #206
skybluetony176 said:
What bollocks. Of course it can. Nothing stopping SISU and CRFC coming up with a plan both financial and building. In fact it would probably help convince Lord Chief Justice Millerchip to transfer the lease if they did come up with a tangible plan that works for both outfits. Also nothing stopping both parties getting an architect involved and drawing up some plans to submit to the planning department. Then we would actually see how well it would be received. Strange that they haven't? Do they actually know if a 25k stadium will fit?
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As you seem to know so much Tony, how do you know no plans have been drawn up. I mean factually, not just your opinion.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #207
Nick said:
How would that restriction work if it wasn't a league game?
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There is no restriction - Reeves has said so
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #208
oldfiver said:
There is no restriction - Reeves has said so
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Sounds like a good idea then, probably too late now to arrange?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #209
Moff said:
So how would anyone know whether SISU had spoken to the Planning Dept? We wouldn't, it doesn't mean it did or didn't happen so what is your point?

Secondly they could have plans, it is feasible that they did, but that doesn't mean they had to be submitted. Thye could of course have spoken to the Planning Dept for their view on the project, and of potential problems and issues. Agaian we will never know, so what is the issue?
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The only time planning permission would be sought by a third party is when transfer is agreed as he well knows.

As the owner of the lease won't transfer it's idiotic to blame sisu.

Still Tony was defending the City of Rugby initiative not so long ago - weren't you Tony?
 
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Godiva

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  • Jun 15, 2016
  • #210
skybluetony176 said:
Said it pretty much from day one but the best way to hurt Wasps is go and see CRFC and give them your money. A successful CRFC is by far the biggest threat Wasps will have.
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Before Wasps there was not enough revenue in total between CCFC and ACL to keep them both profitable. In fact only the Olympics, extraordinary income and smart financial reporting made ACL appear profitable - but the truth is the cash flow was almost constantly negative. And that was back when the club paid £1.2m rent per year plus match day expenses (about £10k/match).
One reason - the main reason - ACL couldn't maintain a profitable operation was the £21m mortgage. The interest payments made the difference.
Now that loan is gone - but it has been replaced by an even bigger one. The interest payments way more than the Yorkshire Bank loan. And it's short term.
On the plus side Wasps is now adding revenue, but at the same time CCFC is paying a lot less. Stadium main Sponsorship is devaluated as long as CCFC hasn't committed to stay long term.
So, all in all I guess(!) that ACL/Wasps/CCFC combined are LESS profitable than previously ACL/CCFC were. Take away CCFC and I guess(!) ACL/Wasps are heading directly towards financial meltdown.

All efforts we see in action is to keep the club at the Ricoh.

So in my opinion, the best way to hurt Wasps is to take away their revenue. Demonstrate outside the gates. Contact their sponsors. But even more effective - move CCFC out, even to Northampton.
 
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