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Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #386
dongonzalos said:
That's what I am asking
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Wasps I would think wouldn't you?
 

Otis

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #387
Grendel said:
Or they could have offered a deal that the club could not accept.

Then say something vague about background legal noise to make everyone's favourite interloper the good guys.
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That is of course possible. Doesn't make it necessarily true though.

There's too much we don't know and it's okay to have an opinion, but we can't state anything as fact (Butts/JR's/CCC/Wasps/Sisu).

Now here's a question, can Sisu halt the legal process but then restart it again at a later date? Would they have to start from scratch? Or would it be once they dropped it, it would remain dropped unless something new was offered as evidence?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #388
Otis said:
That is of course possible. Doesn't make it necessarily true though.

There's too much we don't know and it's okay to have an opinion, but we can't state anything as fact (Butts/JR's/CCC/Wasps/Sisu).

Now here's a question, can Sisu halt the legal process but then restart it again at a later date? Would they have to start from scratch? Or would it be once they dropped it, it would remain dropped unless something new was offered as evidence?
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I am no legal expert, but surely if they dropped the legals it wouldn't be very easy to start them again?
 

Otis

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #389
Nick said:
I am no legal expert, but surely if they dropped the legals it wouldn't be very easy to start them again?
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You know what I am getting at I think.
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #390
Its also interesting that Millerchump is exploring other potential developments for the Butts site - that would have huge implication for CRFC too.

"He also said alternative options were being seriously explored, adding talks with other organisations had taken place and that he was hopeful a final decision about the future of the site could be made by the end of the year."



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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #391
stupot07 said:
Its also interesting that Millerchump is exploring other potential developments for the Butts site - that would have huge implication for CRFC too.

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Like what, Stu? Didn't read that bit. What else has he planned?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #392
Grendel said:
Wasps I would think wouldn't you?
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I don't know
I would like to know what we're the talks.
When was the attempt to arrange them
How was each party asked
What was the aim and what were the respective replies
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #393
stupot07 said:
Its also interesting that Millerchump is exploring other potential developments for the Butts site - that would have huge implication for CRFC too.

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Also interesting when he started his City of a Rugby project

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/20/sports/rugby/wasps-move-to-new-home-in-coventry.html
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #394
dongonzalos said:
I don't know
I would like to know what we're the talks.
When was the attempt to arrange them
How was each party asked
What was the aim and what were the respective replies
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There are no talks it's millerchump pursuing his own agenda.
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #395
Otis said:
Like what, Stu? Didn't read that bit. What else has he planned?
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Dunno, I missed that yesterday too, I wonder if it has been added since the originl article was posted?

The article now says
"He also said alternative options were being seriously explored, adding talks with other organisations had taken place and that he was hopeful a final decision about the future of the site could be made by the end of the year."

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dongonzalos

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #396
stupot07 said:
Its also interesting that Millerchump is exploring other potential developments for the Butts site - that would have huge implication for CRFC too.

"He also said alternative options were being seriously explored, adding talks with other organisations had taken place and that he was hopeful a final decision about the future of the site could be made by the end of the year."



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Can we get past calling him millerchump.
The days of fish face mucus ect have started to dwindle let's not start a new one please
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #397
Grendel said:
Also interesting when he started his City of a Rugby project

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/20/sports/rugby/wasps-move-to-new-home-in-coventry.html
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Wonder how long in advance that was being planned to setup?

Also that Breed was talking them in advance to set it up, so it is more than just a coincidence they happened to just pick the Higgs as their training base isn't it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #398
dongonzalos said:
Can we get past calling him millerchump.
The days of fish face mucus ect have started to dwindle let's not start a new one please
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Must admit, I did think it was a bit.

 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #399
stupot07 said:
Dunno, I missed that yesterday too, I wonder if it has been added since the originl article was posted?

The article now says
"He also said alternative options were being seriously explored, adding talks with other organisations had taken place and that he was hopeful a final decision about the future of the site could be made by the end of the year."

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I saw that the first time I read the article that was at about 1 this morning
 

Otis

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #400
stupot07 said:
Dunno, I missed that yesterday too, I wonder if it has been added since the originl article was posted?

The article now says
"He also said alternative options were being seriously explored, adding talks with other organisations had taken place and that he was hopeful a final decision about the future of the site could be made by the end of the year."

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Well that's no clearer is it!
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #401
Otis said:
Well that's no clearer is it!
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No, but it is worrying for CRFC too.

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #402
dongonzalos said:
Can we get past calling him millerchump.
The days of fish face mucus ect have started to dwindle let's not start a new one please
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We will stop when he stops getting any credibility on here for adding anything of value.

He launched a coventry sports foundation the same time as wasps arrived in coventry.

Yet he says something about sisu not joining in talks and that's it for you - he's a good guy.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #403
Millerchip just wants crfc to be self sustainable and prosper. Funny how he's only just started talking to potential developers when ccfc groundshare is being mooted. Could of been doing it from the get go, no? Oh and that's without him promoting wasps. Why are all these people sticking their nose in? The legals are between ccc and sisu. Not wasps or millerchip or csf. Why don't they all just wind their neck in?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #404
Nick said:
Wonder how long in advance that was being planned to setup?

Also that Breed was talking them in advance to set it up, so it is more than just a coincidence they happened to just pick the Higgs as their training base isn't it?
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The funniest quote was one from Armstrong where he said when he "heard" a swimming pool was being built he wondered "could we use that"

I'm sure he didn't know in advance.

Couldn't - he said he'd heard it somewhere.
 

Otis

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #405
stupot07 said:
No, but it is worrying for CRFC too.

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Could be.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #406
dongonzalos said:
Can we get past calling him millerchump.
The days of fish face mucus ect have started to dwindle let's not start a new one please
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Can we still use Timmy?

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chiefdave

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #407
stupot07 said:
"He also said alternative options were being seriously explored, adding talks with other organisations had taken place and that he was hopeful a final decision about the future of the site could be made by the end of the year."
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Reminds me of a certain council leader talking about the Ricoh and we all know how well that turned out for the team it was built for.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #408
Grendel said:
The funniest quote was one from Armstrong where he said when he "heard" a swimming pool was being built he wondered "could we use that".
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CT said:
Wasps are in secret talks about redeveloping the Alan Higgs Centre into a permanent training facility for the rugby club – including building an Olympic-sized swimming pool.
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #409
italiahorse said:
I do.
I talk to people in the know and then I also come on here
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why bother posting this sort of drivel?

If you know something spill the beans, if it's confidential then keep it to yourself and stop all the hinting and winking emojis, pathetic.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #410
italiahorse said:
I talk to people in the know and then I also come on here
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Whatever happened to him, he was hilarious with how obvious he was with his Wasps BS. Seemed to mysteriously disappear around the same time Nick suggest he make a charity donation for his blatant advertising.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #411
chiefdave said:
Whatever happened to him, he was hilarious with how obvious he was with his Wasps BS. Seemed to mysteriously disappear around the same time Nick suggest he make a charity donation for his blatant advertising.
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He was actually from Wasps.. Either that or somebody did a very good job of reversing it to make it look like a certain individual from Wasps.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #412
Nick said:
We have seen how much Wasps don't want to be disliked, we have seen PR is very important to us. Whilst I am not saying it is not happening, you would have thought they would have been very keen to let people know SISU had been starting more legal action wouldn't they in one way or another?

OR, is it a rumour being put out there so if they do take action about things they can look back and blame it on that?

Millerchip is also saying about legals being dropped, is he referring to the JR stuff or is that action against him from SISU too? He will be ok, he is a lawyer. He would get on with the Higgs family, they are all lawyers. Just in case people didn't know.
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You might want to take some time to find out exactly who Chris Millerchip is and what he's done. The man is a walking encyclopedia on law, he even co founded a company that lawyers go to for reference and direction.

It may just be possible he understands how futile the JR's are and realises that they are not only doomed for failure are also doing irreparable damage to CCFC in the first place and doesn't want CRFC dragging into that one way street of doom. Let's not forget that this is also a man who played for CRFC, has donated money to the club to save it in the past and I guess was the architect of the covenant on the BPA to protect it from people, companies, whatever who don't have CRFC's best interests at heart. Maybe he is just qualified to see the wood through the trees and has a personal interest in protecting CRFC.
 
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armybike

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #413
skybluetony176 said:
You might want to take some time to find out exactly who Chris Millerchip is and what he's done. The man is a walking encyclopedia on law, he even co founded a company that lawyers go to for reference and direction.

It may just be possible he understands how futile the JR's are and realises that they are not only doomed for failure are also doing irreparable damage to CCFC in the first place and doesn't want CRFC dragging into that one way street of doom. Let's not forget that this is also a man who played for CRFC, has donated money to the club to save it in the past and I guess was the architect of the covenant on the BPA to protect it from people, companies, whatever who don't have CRFC's best interests at heart. Maybe he is just qualified to see the wood through the trees and has a personal interest in protecting CRFC.
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"Chris, just to let you know we're in talks with SISU"

"You're chuffing WHAT!?!"
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #414
Grendel said:
We will stop when he stops getting any credibility on here for adding anything of value.
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Using that same logic we should all go back to fish face then. Just remember it was your idea.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #415
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It may just be possible he understands how futile the JR's are and realises that they are not only doomed for failure are also doing irreparable damage to CCFC in the first place and doesn't want CRFC dragging into that one way street of doom. Let's not forget that this is also a man who played for CRFC, has donated money to the club to save it in the past and I guess was the architect of the covenant on the BPA to protect it from people, companies, whatever who don't have CRFC's best interests at heart. Maybe he is just qualified to see the wood through the trees and has a personal interest in protecting CRFC.[/QUOTE]

He has not donated any where near as much as Jon Sharp, so he has a bigger interest!
There is no covenant on the BPA - read what what of your leaders , Nigel Clewes has said
He most certainly has a personal interest - see the last name on the City of Rugby sponsors
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #416
oldfiver said:
He has not donated any where near as much as Jon Sharp, so he has a bigger interest!
There is no covenant on the BPA - read what what of your leaders , Nigel Clewes has said
He most certainly has a personal interest - see the last name on the City of Rugby sponsors
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I'll take your word for it as I've no idea to be honest how much either have donated over the years. Just when looking into Millerchip I came across a few articles saying he's made donations to CRFC. Most notably a £50K donation to stop them from going under. What is Jon Sharps background/historical connection with CRFC? Can't say I could find to much information on him when I looked.

Your leaders? Was that a poor attempt at being a bad parody of Grendull?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #417
skybluetony176 said:
I'll take your word for it as I've no idea to be honest how much either have donated over the years. Just when looking into Millerchip I came across a few articles saying he's made donations to CRFC. Most notably a £50K donation to stop them from going under. What is Jon Sharps background/historical connection with CRFC? Can't say I could find to much information on him when I looked.

Your leaders? Was that a poor attempt at being a bad parody of Grendull?
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Armybike liked your last post.

Well done the wasps fans forum Hall of Fame will not be far away.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #418
skybluetony176 said:
I'll take your word for it as I've no idea to be honest how much either have donated over the years. Just when looking into Millerchip I came across a few articles saying he's made donations to CRFC. Most notably a £50K donation to stop them from going under. What is Jon Sharps background/historical connection with CRFC? Can't say I could find to much information on him when I looked.

Your leaders? Was that a poor attempt at being a bad parody of Grendull?
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Millerchip saved CRFC in the same way that the council saved the football club. Took possession of the freehold of the land they're on.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #419
fernandopartridge said:
Millerchip saved CRFC in the same way that the council saved the football club. Took possession of the freehold of the land they're on.
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He owns the leasehold doesn't he not the freehold? Isn't that what Jon Sharp wants transferring?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 16, 2016
  • #420
fernandopartridge said:
Millerchip saved CRFC in the same way that the council saved the football club. Took possession of the freehold of the land they're on.
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He also did this http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/former-player-donates-50000-towards-3067080
 
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