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Boycott of Home Games v Lack of Squad Investment (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Feb 24, 2014
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bradwellskyblues

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  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #36
Let's be honest we will go nowhere as a club until we are rid of the current owners,who are driving us to oblivion
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #37
Grendel said:
So you didn't say that you didn't care if the club was one league below the conference if they stayed at Sixfields?
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I've highlighted the important bit for you.

I would think that all would turn their backs on the club if this turned out to be a permanent move.
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #38
32k every game at the Ricoh or 1.5k at sixfields, sisu won't invest.

To be honest i couldn't give a fuck anymore. I could probably name about 4 players out of our team these days.

I only go to the away games for a day on the piss and to catch up with old friends.

I didn't expect sisu to do us any favours this season and im not surprised by our pathetic low quality thin squad.
 
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The Prefect

Active Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #39
Grendel said:
A fan who doesn't care if his team are relegated - that's not a fan .
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And owner's that don't care whether their team is relegated? Which is worse?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #40
Grendel said:
Probably one if the most divisive and disgusting posts I have read on here.

Totally shameful.
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Is it as shameful as saying a group of tax payers should gift a valuable asset that belongs to them to a hedge fund based in a tax haven to enable them to turn it into profit for a much smaller group of people who probably have more combined wealth than the tax payers that gave it to them and most likely aren't based in the UK so therefore non of the profit comes back to the tax payers in any shape or form meaning that they get screwed twice.

Because that's about as shameful as it gets.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #41
Grendel said:
A fan who doesn't care if his team are relegated - that's not a fan - are you an Atkinson fan from his villa days? As for Sixfields attendees you constantly snide about them and their role in keeping the club at Northampton and yes I will provide a couple of examples - there's one on this thread - using inadvertently means nothing - that suggests ignorance and stupidity. All they are doing is supporting the team.
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I'm sure they only want to support the team, but everyone's actions has consequences. Theirs is they are supporting the concept of CCFC playing there.

This whole thread was about boycotters are damaging the team. Which I accept they are.

However I'm starting to get a little pissed off with the suggestion that I should feel guilty about damaging the team because I'm doing what I believe is right, whilst 1500 Neville Chamberlains can quite happily go off to Sixfields guilt free.


YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #42
I understand that by boycotting home games at sixfields turnover is lower.

However I still do not understand how the reaction to an action can be blamed? It wasnt our choice to go to sixfields?

If sisu were serious about proving they are in this for the long run they would be trying to keep the fans happy at every oppurtunity.

As always it is the fans who have to bend whilst the others stand firm.
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #43
bigfatronssba said:
I would be even more likely to say it.
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Really???
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #44
bigfatronssba said:
I've highlighted the important bit for you.

I would think that all would turn their backs on the club if this turned out to be a permanent move.
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It is never going to a permanent move only a cretin would believe that.
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #45
It will be a permanent move Ron unless something comes up in the meantime ie. The Ricoh. Forget the new stadium that is never going to happen. For Shitzu it's the Ricoh or nothing.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #46
bigfatronssba said:
I'm sure they only want to support the team, but everyone's actions has consequences. Theirs is they are supporting the concept of CCFC playing there.

This whole thread was about boycotters are damaging the team. Which I accept they are.

However I'm starting to get a little pissed off with the suggestion that I should feel guilty about damaging the team because I'm doing what I believe is right, whilst 1500 Neville Chamberlains can quite happily go off to Sixfields guilt free.


YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
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So they are cowards and appeasers then?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #47
covmark said:
Really???
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Yes, because it would really rub your nose in it.

It would be like your misses running off with another bloke and then winning the lottery.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #48
Grendel said:
So they are cowards and appeasers then?
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Unconfrontational is the word I would use.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #49
Tonylinc said:
It will be a permanent move Ron unless something comes up in the meantime ie. The Ricoh. Forget the new stadium that is never going to happen. For Shitzu it's the Ricoh or nothing.
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It will never be permenant. Total crap.
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #50
bigfatronssba said:
I'm sure they only want to support the team, but everyone's actions has consequences. Theirs is they are supporting the concept of CCFC playing there.

This whole thread was about boycotters are damaging the team. Which I accept they are.

However I'm starting to get a little pissed off with the suggestion that I should feel guilty about damaging the team because I'm doing what I believe is right, whilst 1500 Neville Chamberlains can quite happily go off to Sixfields guilt free.


YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
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Which was my original point!
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #51
Samo said:
Which was my original point!
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I wasn't arguing against you samo. I understand the point your making.
 
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The Prefect

Active Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #52
Grendel said:
It will never be permenant. Total crap.
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And you know this, how?

While I understand your point it is a matter of record that SISU are litigious.

Having allowed a move for (up to) 5 years there could be a strong case that making it permanent is the next step. If things with the Ricoh and / or new stadium don't go SISU's way they won't hesitate to resort to litigation to get what they want.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #53
The Prefect said:
And you know this, how?

While I understand your point it is a matter of record that SISU are litigious.

Having allowed a move for (up to) 5 years there could be a strong case that making it permanent is the next step. If things with the Ricoh and / or new stadium don't go SISU's way they won't hesitate to resort to litigation to get what they want.
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There was a whole thread on this and 95% thought it was a joke. So no it won't happen. Its scaremongering and nonsense.

On and it won't happen because the council own the ground not Northampton.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #54

Yep, we were already relegated so might as well give a few go the youngsters a game.


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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #55
If the FL asked the fans at the start of the season did we want Sisu and the club to carry on,, or to fold and start again in a lower league with new owners it would of been interesting to see the outcome. If you go to NTFC i'm ok with it if you stay in Cov i'm fine with that but i don't believe any stay away fans should be blamed for lack of investment just like those who go being blamed for helping Sisu hang around...

Time will give all the answers, time will solve all the issues, the problem is where will be go before all those that have played a part in this situation come clean and admit blame or mistakes...Fans of all opinion have been hurt but even the strongest Sisu fan cannot look to blame any fan for how poorly the business has been ran..TF was told 3000 would not turn up he was told the team would suffer ,,, his answer WE WILL COVER THE LOSSES, WE WILL BE COMPETITIVE AND YOU WILL ALL BE BACK, that's where the trouble is, not those who stay at home or go NTFC..
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #56
Grendel said:
There was a whole thread on this and 95% thought it was a joke. So no it won't happen. Its scaremongering and nonsense.

On and it won't happen because the council own the ground not Northampton.
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They've also given NTFC state aid for the extension haven't they Grendull
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #57
bradwellskyblues said:
Let's be honest we will go nowhere as a club until we are rid of the current owners,who are driving us to oblivion
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Is that when the Ricoh Russian or Saudi billion takes us over and starts spending £20-30m on players?


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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #58
skybluetony176 said:
They've also given NTFC state aid for the extension haven't they Grendull
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Your right I'm convinced its Northampton sky blues all the way.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #59
Chipfat said:
If the FL asked the fans at the start of the season did we want Sisu and the club to carry on,, or to fold and start again in a lower league with new owners it would of been interesting to see the outcome. If you go to NTFC i'm ok with it if you stay in Cov i'm fine with that but i don't believe any stay away fans should be blamed for lack of investment just like those who go being blamed for helping Sisu hang around...

Time will give all the answers, time will solve all the issues, the problem is where will be go before all those that have played a part in this situation come clean and admit blame or mistakes...Fans of all opinion have been hurt but even the strongest Sisu fan cannot look to blame any fan for how poorly the business has been ran..TF was told 3000 would not turn up he was told the team would suffer ,,, his answer WE WILL COVER THE LOSSES, WE WILL BE COMPETITIVE AND YOU WILL ALL BE BACK, that's where the trouble is, not those who stay at home or go NTFC..
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I don't think anyone's particularly blaming them for lack of investment, more the fact that us that boycott (me included) can hardly moan when there is a lack of investment.

I would say that 47 points from 31 games is competitive, albeit we're currently a bit thin on the ground in the striking department at the minute.


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bradwellskyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #60
So we stay with this mob as there is no one else plenty were prepared to take the club on ,what no one will do is repay sisu their losses,they got the club for a pound they won't get any larger offer themselves
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #61
bigfatronssba said:
Just part of the responsibility that those of us have to accept. For me its a price worth paying, as every victory in Northampton is pretty much worthless anyway.

As a boycotter I accept the harm I'm inadvertently causing to the team.

I just wish those who attended would accept that they are inadvertently supporting the concept of CCFC playing at Sixfields.
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bigfatronssba said:
Yes, because it would really rub your nose in it.

It would be like your misses running off with another bloke and then winning the lottery.
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It's already happened to me twice, I think a third time would be a tad unlucky.
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #62
stupot07 said:
I don't think anyone's particularly blaming them for lack of investment, more the fact that us that boycott (me included) can hardly moan when there is a lack of investment.

I would say that 47 points from 31 games is competitive, albeit we're currently a bit thin on the ground in the striking department at the minute.


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Thank you. That was my seemingly misunderstood point.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #63
Samo said:
Thank you. That was my seemingly misunderstood point.
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Misunderstood... but 7 pages of bollocks is the inevitable result
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #64
Deleted member 5849 said:
Misunderstood... but 7 pages of bollocks is the inevitable result
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Well it's not the first 7 pages of bollocks this forum has ever seen!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #65
Samo said:
Well it's not the first 7 pages of bollocks this forum has ever seen!
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Yeah tbf I can't complain as can you, in all honesty start a thread about boycotting Sixfields without it turning into a bollock-fest?
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #66
stupot07 said:
I don't think anyone's particularly blaming them for lack of investment, more the fact that us that boycott (me included) can hardly moan when there is a lack of investment.

I would say that 47 points from 31 games is competitive, albeit we're currently a bit thin on the ground in the striking department at the minute.


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Well there was a massive lack of investment before the boycott wasn't there? we were going to have a tiny paper thin squad that was going to suffer over winter and once injuries set in weather there was a boycott or not, sisu deliberately reduced their revenues to a tiny fraction of what they would have been. But yes we deliberately made it worse and can't really complain about lack of investment in January.

I do think we can criticise the fact that sisu have brought in the best part of 1.5mill with clark and the arsenal game but weren't sensible enough so spend a small percentage of that on making sure we had a reasonable player in each position. I think if we were calling for a mill to be spent on Clarks replacement then it's fair to say well you've been starving them so you have no right, however thats not what's happened and sisu have been so short sighted to have left us with a squad that could now get relegated when it wouldn't have taken much at all in January to insure there was no chance of that.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #67
Could someone better than I post up the CT Interview from mid November where Pressley had been to a meeting with Seppala and assured funds were available for January
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #68
wingy said:
Could someone better than I post up the CT Interview from mid November where Pressley had been to a meeting with Seppala and assured funds were available for January
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Ah I do remember this. It was along the lines of... We would rather spend some money on a permanent signing than waste money on expensive loan wages. Right?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #69
wingy said:
Could someone better than I post up the CT Interview from mid November where Pressley had been to a meeting with Seppala and assured funds were available for January
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Did she say which January? ;-)
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #70
Samo said:
Ah I do remember this. It was along the lines of... We would rather spend some money on a permanent signing than waste money on expensive loan wages. Right?
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Something to that effect Sami
The sensationalized headline was
SPEND SPEND SPEND
The reality was IIRC that funds would be available to the manager for January
Long before Income from the cup or player sales was evidenced and. long enough into the season to know income had fallen off a cliff
 
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