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Grendel

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #36
robbiekeane said:
So wait, the players get a free pass to not have any bottle and not show fight because...the owners haven’t replaced them with better players? What?

Also, what would you have the owners do? Spend millions more than we earn? Just want to be clear
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Although SGW is a one trick pony it’s not unreasonable to point out that unless there is a coherent investment strategy then there is little point in the owners being here unless we accept we will spend most of their tenure in the lower leagues

Also it’s worth pointing out if fans were in the stadium they are prepared to lose £4m of revenue by sticking out at St. Andrews

We also will lose £5 million if we go down
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #37
we need to set aside a training session a week just to practice shithousing. Diving, in the refs ear, off the ball fouls when no ones looking, going down in the box the minute anyone touches you, in the refs changing room at half time moaning like fuck etc.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #38
clint van damme said:
we need to set aside a training session a week just to practice shithousing. Diving, in the refs ear, off the ball fouls when no ones looking, going down in the box the minute anyone touches you, in the refs changing room at half time moaning like fuck etc.
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This. Practice the Liam Kelly 'surprised at the decision, arms outstretched' pose, or get Michael Doyle in as a consultant for shithousery / goalkeeper training sessions.
 
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larry_david

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #39
clint van damme said:
we need to set aside a training session a week just to practice shithousing. Diving, in the refs ear, off the ball fouls when no ones looking, going down in the box the minute anyone touches you, in the refs changing room at half time moaning like fuck etc.
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We actually do. I can think of 3 times in the last couple of games max gets tangled legged with players in the box and stays up. Go down. Yelp. Cry. Put a decision in the refs mind. That one yesterday early doors if that was Moore instead of max he'd have got his foot in first then done 3 summersaults and won the pen. Max stayed up then fell over outside the box.

I'm sick of our lack of shit housing
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #40
larry_david said:
We actually do. I can think of 3 times in the last couple of games max gets tangled legged with players in the box and stays up. Go down. Yelp. Cry. Put a decision in the refs mind. That one yesterday early doors if that was Moore instead of max he'd have got his foot in first then done 3 summersaults and won the pen. Max stayed up then fell over outside the box.

I'm sick of our lack of shit housing
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Paul Jewell said of that famous Derby season that you had to play dirty if you didn’t have the quality, but the players had lost the belief to even do that. I think our group just enters certain games with no belief they can even get a result and they look sent out there to grovel for a draw.

Next week’s games will be just the same if not worse
 
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larry_david

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #41
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Paul Jewell said of that famous Derby season that you had to play dirty if you didn’t have the quality, but the players had lost the belief to even do that. I think our group just enters certain games with no belief they can even get a result and they look sent out there to grovel for a draw.

Next week’s games will be just the same if not worse
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That's why we need mcfadz and Kelly back.

McFadz was sent on yessterday to sort them out and in a way, he did.

I love hyam and Rose but they both look a bit public school boy at the moment. Compared them two Cardiffs two who looked like they would be up for a street brawl
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #42
larry_david said:
That's why we need mcfadz and Kelly back.

McFadz was sent on yessterday to sort them out and in a way, he did.

I love hyam and Rose but they both look a bit public school boy at the moment. Compared them two Cardiffs two who looked like they would be up for a street brawl
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It needed McF from the start, exactly his kind of game. But now some more pummellings ahead and a cheeky slide into the bottom 3, I hope we get some variety in the defeats, losing from in front was new but that requires us to score so not sure what’s lined up
 

no_loyalty

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #43
Jamesimus said:
This. Practice the Liam Kelly 'surprised at the decision, arms outstretched' pose, or get Michael Doyle in as a consultant for shithousery / goalkeeper training sessions.
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Totally agree, most of our players and the bench are quiet as a mouse, all you heard yesterday was the Cardiff players and their bench appealing every decision.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #44
no_loyalty said:
Totally agree, most of our players and the bench are quiet as a mouse, all you heard yesterday was the Cardiff players and their bench appealing every decision.
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It’s not like Viveash wasn’t trying but it was just him
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #45
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s not like Viveash wasn’t trying but it was just him
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Should have brought Viveash on at HT I reckon
 

Jamesimus

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #46
no_loyalty said:
Totally agree, most of our players and the bench are quiet as a mouse, all you heard yesterday was the Cardiff players and their bench appealing every decision.
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I do remember the camera zooming in on O'Hare after being fouled and you could hear him shouting and complaining.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #47
Jamesimus said:
Should have brought Viveash on at HT I reckon
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Robins himself is noticeably very quiet on the touch line, could hear Mick very easily though most of the time it was ‘HA HA HA HA’
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #48
Jamesimus said:
Should have brought Viveash on at HT I reckon
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It’s not the first time he’s done that was another game 2-0 down he made no changes we conceded the amount of goals we score from half time kick off is odd
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #49
cc84cov said:
It’s not the first time he’s done that was another game 2-0 down he made no changes we conceded the amount of goals we score from half time kick off is odd
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Zero isn’t an odd number mate
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #50
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Zero isn’t an odd number mate
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Did you see us 2-0 down at half time last time he made no changes and we conceded again straight after we had games last season and before conceding after half time fuck knows what’s said but their half sleep
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #51
cc84cov said:
Did you see us 2-0 down at half time last time he made no changes and we conceded again straight after we had games last season and before conceding after half time fuck knows what’s said but their half sleep
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At least it meant I could turn it off quick and watch a less graphic horror film
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #52
Brighton Sky Blue said:
At least it meant I could turn it off quick and watch a less graphic horror film
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I seen a 90 min one yesterday
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #53
The manager is a bottle job at times also games there to he won just won’t go for it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #54
cc84cov said:
The manager is a bottle job at times also games there to he won just won’t go for it
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Other teams won’t be cautious when they have the upper hand, as we saw yesterday.
 
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Adge

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #55
stevefloyd said:
I was always in the refs face especially when we had a couple of youngsters playing for us who were getting kicked, I told him he was a disgrace and waiting for someone to get badly injured, he promptly booked me ...thats why I have little to no respect for Refs, I will say the said ref never sent the booking in because I said I was reporting him... we did have some decent ones though but not many. As I have said before the little hitlers bring it upon themselves with their lack of sensible discipline and arrogant attitude...cue an Adge reply !
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You are right to have no respect for the said referee. To caution a player and then not send it in is the ultimate cardinal sin and you are right about reporting him, only difference is you should have reported him when you knew the caution hadn’t been sent in as he wasn’t doing his job properly. This is a classic example of “last weeks ref” and if you had him again and then he did send a separate caution recieved in that match in you would be saying “well last time you didn’t send it in” and then criticise him for showing no consistency.
This is something you and others have pointed the finger at when it comes to referees and them “not doing their jobs properly”. This particular Referee didn’t do his job but is ok as he didn’t send the caution in and showed a “ lack of sensible discipline” by not doing so. You really couldn’t make it up!
 

stevefloyd

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #56
Horror films are shite these days like our performance yesterday
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #57
stevefloyd said:
Horror films are shite these days like our performance yesterday
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Don’t mind losing but the way we give away goals is not acceptable
 

stevefloyd

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #58
Adge said:
You are right to have no respect for the said referee. To caution a player and then not send it in is the ultimate cardinal sin and you are right about reporting him, only difference is you should have reported him when you knew the caution hadn’t been sent in as he wasn’t doing his job properly. This is a classic example of “last weeks ref” and if you had him again and then he did send a separate caution recieved in that match in you would be saying “well last time you didn’t send it in” and then criticise him for showing no consistency.
This is something you and others have pointed the finger at when it comes to referees and them “not doing their jobs properly”. This particular Referee didn’t do his job but is ok as he didn’t send the caution in and showed a “ lack of sensible discipline” by not doing so. You really couldn’t make it up!
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I know being a ref is a difficult job made harder with so many grey areas and 1 mans foul is another mans good tackle but the referees do have to take some blame. It can be quite volatile because emotions run high when you are trying to win and its certainly not helped by all the cheating diving bastards that spoil the game costing managers their jobs and its about time the authorities adressed this but money rules I guess. Now we have the complete fuck up named VAR to make it even more ridiculous so they are not helping Refs either!!
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #59
Grendel said:
Although SGW is a one trick pony it’s not unreasonable to point out that unless there is a coherent investment strategy then there is little point in the owners being here unless we accept we will spend most of their tenure in the lower leagues

Also it’s worth pointing out if fans were in the stadium they are prepared to lose £4m of revenue by sticking out at St. Andrews

We also will lose £5 million if we go down
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Wasn’t it 9 million last week?
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #60
clint van damme said:
we need to set aside a training session a week just to practice shithousing. Diving, in the refs ear, off the ball fouls when no ones looking, going down in the box the minute anyone touches you, in the refs changing room at half time moaning like fuck etc.
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After yesterday we need to set aside a day to practice football
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #61
cc84cov said:
It’s not the first time he’s done that was another game 2-0 down he made no changes we conceded the amount of goals we score from half time kick off is odd
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His half time talk was “ next goal’s important”
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 14, 2021
  • #62
Johhny Blue said:
Wasn’t it 9 million last week?
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You have to hand it to Sisu to be fair. They have zero strategy, zero business plan and zero direction yet somehow manage to convince supporters they have a sensible finance policy of not spending above our means while at the same time accumulating over £20m debt in OE Ltd and if it’s believed £60m in SB and S ltd
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #63
Grendel said:
Although SGW is a one trick pony it’s not unreasonable to point out that unless there is a coherent investment strategy then there is little point in the owners being here unless we accept we will spend most of their tenure in the lower leagues

Also it’s worth pointing out if fans were in the stadium they are prepared to lose £4m of revenue by sticking out at St. Andrews

We also will lose £5 million if we go down
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What would you have happen now? If it’s sell up and cut your losses, what would you want from new owners?
 
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Travs

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #64
clint van damme said:
we need to set aside a training session a week just to practice shithousing. Diving, in the refs ear, off the ball fouls when no ones looking, going down in the box the minute anyone touches you, in the refs changing room at half time moaning like fuck etc.
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Whilst i totally understand your point... this is a major reason why i just can't be arsed with football at all any longer.... diving/VAR,"game management"......... all a sympton of money taking over the game and being all-important. CCFC was everything to me growing up, but having got into other sports myself which carry such little comparitive financial reward, stuff like you mention above just gets shown up as utter bullshit (and obviously it tarnishes the entire game, not just CCFC)

The last Cov game on the TV (was it Watford), i awitched on and saw a player launch himself on the floor after his arm was touched... the next clip was a substitute clutching a Hot Water Bottle like he was on the Shackleton expedition. Ended up switching over and watching the skiing.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #65
robbiekeane said:
What would you have happen now? If it’s sell up and cut your losses, what would you want from new owners?
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Play in Cov would be a start.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #66
McFadzean said at the start of the season that experience was what the team needed most from the transfer window. It was never addressed. Instead we spent a (relative) fortune on young players with very little experience at this level. It’s no surprise we seem so naive at times.
 

higgs

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #67
This season will be a massive season for the club staying up could really give us the chance of establishing ourselves in the championship again

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #68
SBT said:
McFadzean said at the start of the season that experience was what the team needed most from the transfer window. It was never addressed. Instead we spent a (relative) fortune on young players with very little experience at this level. It’s no surprise we seem so naive at times.
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James is experienced. Gyokeres is young but has played at this level and at international. To get an experienced forward, likely to score goals, in the January transfer window, on our budget was never going to happen, especially when Walker was due back and Godden at the time was unsure if he might recover soon. Any forward we brought in was going to have to be a bit of a gamble. We also brought in Camp as cover for injury who is extremely experienced.

I think you need to have a bit of a reality check on what our budget can stretch too.

I'm hoping some of that will be addressed in the summer, assuming we stay up and we may lose a couple here and there to be replaced by one more experienced (and thus expensive) player.
 
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higgs

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #69
Without sounding negative I'm getting a bad feeling about us staying up. Have we the stomach for the battle hopefully Kelly can help us battle over the line with a few victories. We need to grind out wins against the likes of derby Rotherham millwall Bristol city Wycombe Luton Huddersfield can we do it only time will tell. MARK ROBINS SKY BLUE ARMY

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AOM

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  • Feb 15, 2021
  • #70
clint van damme said:
we need to set aside a training session a week just to practice shithousing. Diving, in the refs ear, off the ball fouls when no ones looking, going down in the box the minute anyone touches you, in the refs changing room at half time moaning like fuck etc.
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This definitely. Reckon Viveash would love it.
Can't remember that player who came off the pitch after the game with actual wounds on his leg after having Doyle marking him all game a few seasons ago.

We're far too honourable at the moment
 
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