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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Why is he still in a job?

Why does he still have a reputation?

I don't necessarily want pro or anti-Johnson diatribes... more an explanation!
 
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MAFF

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #2
better inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #3
old school tie:emoji_heavy_check_mark:
funny handshakes:emoji_heavy_check_mark:
piss-weak boss:emoji_heavy_check_mark:
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #4
Deleted member 5849 said:
Why is he still in a job?

Why does he still have a reputation?

I don't necessarily want pro or anti-Johnson diatribes... more an explanation!
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He's trying to get sacked so he can contest the leadership. May is in a precarious position. She can't afford for that to happen but the longer he's allowed to stay the weaker she looks for not sacking him.

His part in the Zaghari-Ratcliffe affair is nothing short of scandalous. I was watching an old Question Time the other night, (Rock and roll!), it was from a fair while ago and I realised that I had misjudged something about Boris all along.
I had always considered him self centred, egotistical and ambitious at the disregard to all else, which he is, but I did think he's was a very clever man, he's actually a fucking idiot.

Sorry, Is that a diatribe?!
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Why is he still in a job?

Why does he still have a reputation?

I don't necessarily want pro or anti-Johnson diatribes... more an explanation!
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Yep, doesn't matter if you are Tory or not, it's still amazing that he has kept his job.

Mind, his job actually appears to be Minister for Putting His Foot In It, amongst others.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #6
Every circus needs a ringmaster..
 
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RB1992

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #7
I think he's a breath of fresh air in modern politics.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #8
RB1992 said:
I think he's a breath of fresh air in modern politics.
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May the Lord Almighty smite you down for that.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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RB1992 said:
I think he's a breath of fresh air in modern politics.
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that's not a surprise to be honest.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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RB1992 said:
I think he's a breath of fresh air in modern politics.
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Is that a direct quote from the Daily Mail or did you come up with that all on your own?
 
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duffer

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Why is he still in a job?

Why does he still have a reputation?

I don't necessarily want pro or anti-Johnson diatribes... more an explanation!
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Because people hate politicians and he's clever enough to avoid being seen as one? See Trump.

Boris isn't as dangerous as Trump, because he does have some vestigial intelligence, but I'm sure he's as much of a narcissist, willing to do or say anything that gets him what he wants regardless of the effect on others. In essence, a smiling menace.

This current lot make Major and Clarke look like Gandhi and Mandela by comparison.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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duffer said:
Because people hate politicians and he's clever enough to avoid being seen as one? See Trump.

Boris isn't as dangerous as Trump, because he does have some vestigial intelligence, but I'm sure he's as much of a narcissist, willing to do or say anything that's gets him what he wants regardless of the effect on others. In essence, a smiling menace.

This current lot make Major and Clarke look like Gandhi and Mandela by comparison.
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See, my theory is he still has a job because that way, he's part of the establishment.

Trump got the gig because nobody in their right mind had given him the chance to fuck up politically, so he ended up untainted. Sack Johnson and you have the same.

Not convinced it's a wise strategy though when he's quite as destructive to peoples' lives as he appears to be atm!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Deleted member 5849 said:
See, my theory is he still has a job because that way, he's part of the establishment.

Trump got the gig because nobody in their right mind had given him the chance to fuck up politically, so he ended up untainted. Sack Johnson and you have the same.

Not convinced it's a wise strategy though when he's quite as destructive to peoples' lives as he appears to be atm!
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I didn't realise until I was in the States earlier in the year and talking to people about the election just how much Hilary was hated, and that included a few people who told me they would have voted Democrat if it wasn't for her.
I suppose that sort of fits in with what you were saying as her previous political career and her association with her husband had tainted her.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #14
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

May is a waste of space but the perfect scapegoat if Brexit goes wrong.
 
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duffer

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Terry Gibson's perm said:
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

May is a waste of space but the perfect scapegoat if Brexit goes wrong.
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If?
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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duffer said:
If?
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I’m a leaver so remain confident even under this pathetic specimen
 

sw88

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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I see his dad is going into the jungle for I’m a celeb :emoji_face_palm:
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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sw88 said:
I see his dad is going into the jungle for I’m a celeb :emoji_face_palm:
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He's used to hanging around with dick heads so should settle well with ant and dick
 
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ovduk78

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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clint van damme said:
He's trying to get sacked so he can contest the leadership.
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Surely he was in prime position to become leader after we voted to leave the EU, seems to me that he bottled it and didn't want to negotiate us through the mess he had campaigned for, maybe he wan't convinced by his own campaigning and just wanted to give Cameron a bloody nose
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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He has shown himself to be utterly incapable of holding a position of responsibility over the past year. He's perfect for this pathetic government.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Sick Boy said:
He has shown himself to be utterly incapable of holding a position of responsibility over the past year.
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So why does he?
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #22
ovduk78 said:
Surely he was in prime position to become leader after we voted to leave the EU, seems to me that he bottled it and didn't want to negotiate us through the mess he had campaigned for, maybe he wan't convinced by his own campaigning and just wanted to give Cameron a bloody nose
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he was fucked over by Gove who was backing him but withdrew to enter the race himself at the last minute. He said he didn't think Boris had the necessary leadership skills.
Fasr forward 17 months and Gove appears to be backing him agian!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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clint van damme said:
He said he didn't think Boris had the necessary leadership skills.
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As in 'some'?
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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think that's pretty much what Gove said. I don't think he posses any!

I may be doing him a disservice.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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clint van damme said:
think that's pretty much what Gove said. I don't think he posses any!

I may be doing him a disservice.
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The thing is, it's often reckoned he wouldn't win a leadership election anyway, as he has a knack of making enemies as much as he makes friends in the House of Commons.

Which, if true, would take away the need for him to be in government... unless you accept the damage he could do outside of it.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Deleted member 5849 said:
The thing is, it's often reckoned he wouldn't win a leadership election anyway, as he has a knack of making enemies as much as he makes friends in the House of Commons.

Which, if true, would take away the need for him to be in government... unless you accept the damage he could do outside of it.
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he spent the tory party conference chumming about with the editor of the sun. Tim Fisher could become PM with Murdochs red top behind him. He is fiercely ambitious behind the bumbling buffoon persona.
 
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clint van damme said:
he spent the tory party conference chumming about with the editor of the sun. Tim Fisher could become PM with Murdochs red top behind him. He is fiercely ambitious behind the bumbling buffoon persona.
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To become PM, first you have to become party leader.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Deleted member 5849 said:
To become PM, first you have to become party leader.
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True. But I think he could become leader despite his obvious deficiencies. That's the state the Tory party is in.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #29
Osbourne is lurking in the shadows, is a safe by-election coming up or is he waiting to stand for Mayor of London?
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #30
Captain Dart said:
Osbourne is lurking in the shadows, is a safe by-election coming up or is he waiting to stand for Mayor of London?
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You think? Interesting. He's allowed some fairly scathing stuff to be published about the tories in the Evening Standard. Wonder if the grandees of the party would welcome him back?
 

Sick Boy

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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clint van damme said:
You think? Interesting. He's allowed some fairly scathing stuff to be published about the tories in the Evening Standard. Wonder if the grandees of the party would welcome him back?
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It has been intentional!! The grandees would welcome him back I'm sure.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Sick Boy said:
It has been intentional!! The grandees would welcome him back I'm sure.
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To be honest I hadn't even considered his return. Pro EU as well! Though he could always change his position, everyone else has!
 

Sick Boy

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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Deleted member 5849 said:
So why does he?
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Have you not seen the state of the current government?!
 

Sick Boy

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  • Nov 14, 2017
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clint van damme said:
To be honest I hadn't even considered his return. Pro EU as well! Though he could always change his position, everyone else has!
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I don't think he would change his position, he was always massively against even holding the referendum.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 14, 2017
  • #35
Because he who pays the piper calls the tune
 
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