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Booing of team... some thoughts (1 Viewer)

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Nick

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  • Sep 4, 2017
  • #36
Steve.B50 said:
I never boo the team regardless of how badly we play.
Its not the players fault they are not good enough.
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Our players really are good enough for league 2 though?
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2017
  • #37
steve82 said:
Some good points but it was stokes who made the last minute tackle.
But your point stands, heads would of dropped and he'd of scored last year
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Sorry - you're right it was Stokes
 
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The Great Eastern

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  • Sep 4, 2017
  • #38
Nick said:
Our players really are good enough for league 2 though?
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New team that hasn't gelled as yet. Booing them at this early point of the season isn't going to help team spirit one iota.
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2017
  • #39
Steve.B50 said:
I never boo the team regardless of how badly we play.
Its not the players fault they are not good enough.
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Fair point-so who's fault is it then?
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2017
  • #40
See the sexual assault thread for the likely types who were calling the players wankers and the likes. Again there is a mentality now that we can do what we want and we know our rights. Yes, it's disappointing and has been for some years now but verbally smashing up a bunch of players who have only just been brought together is not going to help morale. It seems to be feast or famine with our support.................either very good or very bad.
 

steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2017
  • #41
Interesting to hear Steve Evans thoughts after Mansfield fans booed the team off the pitch like experienced at Chesterfield last month.

“I’ve watched my players at the end of the game go to the supporters and get told they’re a load of rubbish.

“I’ve never experienced that. We’ve all had criticisms as managers and teams, that’s quite harsh on them. They’ve given us everything today.

“I’ve done interviews with local media and they all say the same thing, they find it hard to believe we’ve not scored today.

“There’s deeper worries when you see some of the reaction at full-time.

"That gives me deeper worries about whether people are really in it for a promotion challenge or if they’re in it for glory days. There’s a big, big difference.”


Mansfield Town boss asks if fans are just 'in it for glory days'
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2017
  • #42
The fans stayed with the team yesterday.
Wonder if the earlier kick off helped by cutting down pre-match boozing time?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Oct 8, 2017
  • #43
better days said:
The fans stayed with the team yesterday.
Wonder if the earlier kick off helped by cutting down pre-match boozing time?
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Nah. I got on it from 8am to compensate.
 
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better days

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2017
  • #44
MusicDating said:
Nah. I got on it from 8am to compensate.
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Yeah but the boo boys probably started the same time for the Chesterfield 3pm kick off
 

Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2017
  • #45
better days said:
The fans stayed with the team yesterday.
Wonder if the earlier kick off helped by cutting down pre-match boozing time?
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Chesterfield came after 3 consecutive defeats to Newport, Yeovil and Shrewsbury in the cup I think, as opposed to 3 consecutive wins. Think that's all that there is behind it (not to condone the actual booing though)
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2017
  • #46
Esoterica said:
Chesterfield came after 3 consecutive defeats to Newport, Yeovil and Shrewsbury in the cup I think, as opposed to 3 consecutive wins. Think that's all that there is behind it (not to condone the actual booing though)
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Good point
I was joking about the boozing though
Btw I was very impressed with the 66 Bar as Barnet yesterday
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2017
  • #47
Why boo the team and make the opposition managers job easy for him?
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #48
I've never been one for applauding a mediocre/disappointing performance - I tend to just trudge off and maybe throw a disapproving glance towards the team as they leave the pitch. I have no problem admitting on the rare occasion I've booed some performances (Prem - Lg1) and if there was such a thing as acceptable reaction to a level of effort then I (and others) would have been justified in doing it more often!
Saturdays result/performance fell into that disappointing category but as I was making my way to the exit and the bulk of the team were ambling towards the tunnel, I must admit I was dreading what I was expecting to be the reaction. Imagine my surprise therefore when 'lukewarm' if not rapturous applause broke out.
I think in that moment the supporters reaction was crucial to the players and no doubt a relief to the management team and might just make the environment for this weeks prep leading up to Acc Stanley a happier place to work in.
For the record - I did still offer a mild scowl (I turned 51 this year y'know so it's semi permanent) but joined in with applause.
It was definitely the correct reaction.
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #49
oscillatewildly said:
I've never been one for applauding a mediocre/disappointing performance - I tend to just trudge off and maybe throw a disapproving glance towards the team as they leave the pitch. I have no problem admitting on the rare occasion I've booed some performances (Prem - Lg1) and if there was such a thing as acceptable reaction to a level of effort then I (and others) would have been justified in doing it more often!
Saturdays result/performance fell into that disappointing category but as I was making my way to the exit and the bulk of the team were ambling towards the tunnel, I must admit I was dreading what I was expecting to be the reaction. Imagine my surprise therefore when 'lukewarm' if not rapturous applause broke out.
I think in that moment the supporters reaction was crucial to the players and no doubt a relief to the management team and might just make the environment for this weeks prep leading up to Acc Stanley a happier place to work in.
For the record - I did still offer a mild scowl (I turned 51 this year y'know so it's semi permanent) but joined in with applause.
It was definitely the correct reaction.
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You must have mellowed in your old age Mick!
 
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Cov kid 55

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #50
oscillatewildly said:
I've never been one for applauding a mediocre/disappointing performance - I tend to just trudge off and maybe throw a disapproving glance towards the team as they leave the pitch. I have no problem admitting on the rare occasion I've booed some performances (Prem - Lg1) and if there was such a thing as acceptable reaction to a level of effort then I (and others) would have been justified in doing it more often!
Saturdays result/performance fell into that disappointing category but as I was making my way to the exit and the bulk of the team were ambling towards the tunnel, I must admit I was dreading what I was expecting to be the reaction. Imagine my surprise therefore when 'lukewarm' if not rapturous applause broke out.
I think in that moment the supporters reaction was crucial to the players and no doubt a relief to the management team and might just make the environment for this weeks prep leading up to Acc Stanley a happier place to work in.
For the record - I did still offer a mild scowl (I turned 51 this year y'know so it's semi permanent) but joined in with applause.
It was definitely the correct reaction.
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I was really pleased that the fans reacted well at the end of the game, long may it continue.
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #51
Adge said:
You must have mellowed in your old age Mick!
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Tutting and eye rolling is the new 'going berserk'.
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #52
oscillatewildly said:
Tutting and eye rolling is the new 'going berserk'.
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I always remember the time we were getting battered at Blackburn and you were told by a bloke in front to "support the team". To be fair you applauded every missed placed pass and shots that went out for a throw in from there on in!
 

BackRoomRummermill

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #53
Booing post game is counter productive as your displeasure cannot alter the result as it's all over and the players get down hearted . There is the other side of course that constructive criticism has a positive effect. Unless they are generally poor as a team then neither will have effect . I would not boo but can totally understand those that do and have the right to do so in a public entertainment arena financed partly by them . Get over it.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #54
Just my own personal opinion...but booing is not supportive. So booing your own team is unsupporting them.

If you want to boo - go watch WWF or Shakespeare an theatre, or panto & boo the villain as they are set up to be booed.

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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #55
Lots of arguments for both sides but did last years donuts deserve to be booed? To right they did, did I boo them? Absolutely!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #56
Booing your own team is like keying your own car, just beyond stupid.

At best it just makes the team play worse, is that really worth it just because you can't control yourself?
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #57
oscillatewildly said:
I've never been one for applauding a mediocre/disappointing performance - I tend to just trudge off and maybe throw a disapproving glance towards the team as they leave the pitch. I have no problem admitting on the rare occasion I've booed some performances (Prem - Lg1) and if there was such a thing as acceptable reaction to a level of effort then I (and others) would have been justified in doing it more often!
Saturdays result/performance fell into that disappointing category but as I was making my way to the exit and the bulk of the team were ambling towards the tunnel, I must admit I was dreading what I was expecting to be the reaction. Imagine my surprise therefore when 'lukewarm' if not rapturous applause broke out.
I think in that moment the supporters reaction was crucial to the players and no doubt a relief to the management team and might just make the environment for this weeks prep leading up to Acc Stanley a happier place to work in.
For the record - I did still offer a mild scowl (I turned 51 this year y'know so it's semi permanent) but joined in with applause.
It was definitely the correct reaction.
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Would have been disappointing if the team had got booed Saturday as there was no lack of effort just lack of quality.
 
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Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #58
I tend not to boo however have been guilty of it in the past (That visit to St Andrews in the FA cup back in 2011 where we were 2 up and fucked it up completely springs to mind). I don't agree with it during the game but on piss poor performances I would show my 'distaste' to the team. Saturday wasn't one of those performances it was just a missed opportunity but you could see the team trying their upmost to get a result and I cannot ask for anything more.

What I hate is players being singled out for abuse, this is completely counterproductive and doesn't help us in the slightest.
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #59
shmmeee said:
Booing your own team is like keying your own car, just beyond stupid.

At best it just makes the team play worse, is that really worth it just because you can't control yourself?
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Strange analogy - but each to their own.
 
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RB1992

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #60
shmmeee said:
Booing your own team is like keying your own car, just beyond stupid.

At best it just makes the team play worse, is that really worth it just because you can't control yourself?
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I'd say it's more like giving the shit car that's just broken down for the 5th time on what should be a simple 15 minute journey a good boot.
 
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Cov kid 55

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #61
Adge said:
Lots of arguments for both sides but did last years donuts deserve to be booed? To right they did, did I boo them? Absolutely!
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Worked well, that.
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #62
Cov kid 55 said:
Worked well, that.
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They didn't need much encouragement from me to end up going down with a whimper to be fair.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #63
oscillatewildly said:
Strange analogy - but each to their own.
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You are purposefully making something that you care about and want to work better, worse. It's like keying your own car.

(Shamelessly taken from Jimmy Carr: )

RB1992 said:
I'd say it's more like giving the shit car that's just broken down for the 5th time on what should be a simple 15 minute journey a good boot.
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And how many times after doing that has the car suddenly started performing like a well tuned machine?
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #64
shmmeee said:
You are purposefully making something that you care about and want to work better, worse. It's like keying your own car.

(Shamelessly taken from Jimmy Carr: )



And how many times after doing that has the car suddenly started performing like a well tuned machine?
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Or...maybe a young child gets up & tries to walk...only to fall...what is the instinctive reaction? Tell them they're rubbish & to do it properly? No it is to offer empathy for their fall, & encouragement to try again.

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RB1992

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #65
shmmeee said:
You are purposefully making something that you care about and want to work better, worse. It's like keying your own car.

(Shamelessly taken from Jimmy Carr: )



And how many times after doing that has the car suddenly started performing like a well tuned machine? I'm a little fairy as well
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Very rarely, but it sometimes feels good to let off a bit of frustration.
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #66
SkyblueBazza said:
Or...maybe a young child gets up & tries to walk...only to fall...what is the instinctive reaction? Tell them they're rubbish & to do it properly? No it is to offer empathy for their fall, & encouragement to try again.

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It doesn't cost people ticket and travel money to watch their kid trip up.
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #67
clint van damme said:
Would have been disappointing if the team had got booed Saturday as there was no lack of effort just lack of quality.
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I think that this is true of most poor performances. Lack of ability rather than lack of effort. You want your team to do well but shower them with abuse? Very strange. I would much sooner see the reaction of the crowd after the game at Barnet. Much more likely to inspire a motivated team next time out.
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #68
Irish Sky Blue said:
I think that this is true of most poor performances. Lack of ability rather than lack of effort. You want your team to do well but shower them with abuse? Very strange. I would much sooner see the reaction of the crowd after the game at Barnet. Much more likely to inspire a motivated team next time out.
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Totally agree. There have been times over the past couple of years when I have been embarrassed by the reaction of our fans at the end of a game. Not Saturday, I’m pleased to say.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2017
  • #69
Adge said:
It doesn't cost people ticket and travel money to watch their kid trip up.
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How can you possibly think that booing will have any positive effect though?

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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2017
  • #70
SkyblueBazza said:
How can you possibly think that booing will have any positive effect though?

That is not the reason though. I'm glad too that the team, although frustrating on Saturday, gave 100% effort and tried their best and we're applauded at the end for their efforts.
Last season I didn't see enough of that and seen players not trying and giving 100%. It was also a bonus for them with what was going on off the field as they could hide behind this and use it as an excuse. Hence they didn't deserve one ounce of credit and people including me made our feelings known. Quite a contrast to what's happening (so far) this season.
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