SkyBlueCRJ
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Yes as I just said? I never said the academy players or the U23s refused to play. I’m not really sure what your point is?
But it’s only the first team players that have refused to play? The statement today from Bolton was from their first team players. No mention of u23 or academy players refusing to play
Well I started off by saying Bolton cancelled their friendly to Chester because they didn’t have enough first team players to play. You told me I was wrong. Yet you just said yourself that the first team players have refused to play due to not being paid. Thus meaning they’ve had to cancel the friendly due to not having enough first team players to play the gameYes as I just said? I never said the academy players or the U23s refused to play. I’m not really sure what your point is?
Anybody know if they had enough first team players?
They only have 7 senior players right now
According to a fan on their twitter they only have 3 first team outfielders.
Completely agree!It’s fans of clubs such as Newcastle Utd and Manchester Red that need a thump in the mouth and a reality check.
Completely agree!
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It’s fans of clubs such as Newcastle Utd and Manchester Red that need a thump in the mouth and a reality check.
Well I started off by saying Bolton cancelled their friendly to Chester because they didn’t have enough first team players to play. You told me I was wrong. Yet you just said yourself that the first team players have refused to play due to not being paid. Thus meaning they’ve had to cancel the friendly due to not having enough first team players to play the game
Forgive me, but isn’t Ashley’s problem he won’t spend his own money, runs Newcastle at a profit and keeps them in the premier league?United I can 100% agree with, Newcastle however no chance. Best fans in the country in my opinion, in terms of loyal support. Sell out every away end no matter where or what night despite being 100s of miles away and starved of any real success. Averaged 51,000+ in the championship. Ashley’s fully taking the piss, and their fans have every right to moan
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Forgive me, but isn’t Ashley’s problem he won’t spend his own money, runs Newcastle at a profit and keeps them in the premier league?
But he’s instantly returned them both times.He doesn’t keep them in the Premier League though? Under his tenure they’ve been relegated twice in the last seven years. Prior to that they were relegated 4 times in 117 years. He’s turned them into a yo-yo club.
Statement from Appleton - Statement on behalf of Paul Appleton, Joint Administrator for Bolton Wanderers
But he’s instantly returned them both times.
He runs them as a business, it seems to me that it’s another case of fans expecting someone to plow in millions and if they don’t win fuck off...
Newcastle fans need a reality check - Bolton and Bury are happening yet a person they call a fat bastard is the worst owner ever.
Thing is If West Ham get it wrong, they’re in the shit. The criticism then moves to “why were you spending money you don’t have”I agree they definitely need a reality check. They think they are far better and bigger than they actually are. Their support is incredible, there’s no doubting that, but in my opinion support size doesn’t necessarily solely dictate size of club anymore. Size of club in my opinion is now dictated by a culmination of factors - fan size included obviously but it’s not the sole reason anymore. In fact I’d go as far to say that’s a very outdated POV these days. Other factors have come into play as the game has evolved. Otherwise by that logic the likes of Newcastle would be considered as a bigger club than let’s say Spurs before they moved into their new stadium.
The issue is though when you see the likes of West Ham spending £40M on players, Bournemouth last season spending £30M last season, and giving their players £100K per year contracts this season I think they do have a right to be annoyed. Under his tenure they’ve shifted from being considered as a top half/top 6 contender to a relegation candidate/Yo-Yo club. Any fan would be frustrated at that so I do sympathise as what do they have to look forward to? The club is being starved of progression under Ashley. Fans look forward to the new season because they have a belief that it could be better than the one before. Realistically Newcastle fans don’t have that because Ashley refuses to spend. It’s not about chucking money at the situation either as it’s well known that Newcastle have money in the bank but Ashley refuses to spend - similar to Arsenal. There’s a huge difference to being money-savvy and being tight.
Thing is If West Ham get it wrong, they’re in the shit. The criticism then moves to “why were you spending money you don’t have”
I get Newcastle have money in the bank, but that clearly keeps them solvent.
I’m sorry but them calling him the worst owner is insulting. Frustration maybe
They haven’t sold their ground, they’re in a good condition, just having 50k fans doesn’t entitle you to challenge - and some of the stuff levelled at Ashley is disgusting. Why would he invest with all the shit he gets?
Arsenal on the other hand also piss me off. Their problem is though - they will spend the money but they try not too
To be fair I agree regarding Arsenal and Newcastle... the finance side of thing on our end is alright - however I don’t advise not owning your stadiumThe game would be in a better place if all clubs were run like Arsenal, Newcastle and Coventry.
Round at Ivan Campo’s?Wheres Jay-Jay Okocha when you need him?
Might be being a bit pedantic but there’s a difference between not having enough players for a friendly to go ahead and the club’s players refusing to play. Surely even if Bolton had a full squad they still would’ve refused as the point is, they haven’t been paid. The amount of players they have or don’t have is irrelevant as it’s the reason the friendly has been cancelled that is significant. Simply saying they don’t have enough players in itself is incorrect. No statement that has come out has specified that as the reason either so not sure why you’re still trying to argue your point?
A bit pedantic!! This reads like a spoiled kid who’s not getting his own way! Just let it go, it doesn’t matter
ABU bollocks againMan U fans yes. Geordies, I feel for - Ashley milks them mercilessly, without even pretending to care about the team.
Best fans? LolUnited I can 100% agree with, Newcastle however no chance. Best fans in the country in my opinion, in terms of loyal support. Sell out every away end no matter where or what night despite being 100s of miles away and starved of any real success. Averaged 51,000+ in the championship. Ashley’s fully taking the piss, and their fans have every right to moan
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