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ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #71
cc84cov said:
I think Sisu have known it will be a ground share for a while they know wasps won’t back down they will sit this out away from the Ricoh problem is how long will it take for wasps to break and where will the groundshare be...
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in which case, isn't this tactic our owners fault ?.

How is this any different to the last time they took us away from Cov ?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #72
ccfcway said:
How is this any different to the last time they took us away from Cov ?
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Call me a contrary old bugger but, despite my loathing of Wasps, I'd find this one worse.

The narrative of trying to cut a deal, failing, having to move out while putting together plans for a new stadium may have been far fetched last time, but it at least held some weight.

This time... we're running exactly the same schtick, but we've had years to plan for said new stadium. I can buy the victim act, fine... but only if it's in conjunction with a positive and believable solution that we'll work towards.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #73
not at all, genuinely asking for opinions
 

covcity4life

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #74
Yeah if sisu seriois bout new stadoum they would just drop legals and then start planning

After making it public it would be hard for council to stop them without a real reason

I imagine sisu r lookinh for another short cut

Prefer ground share to no ccfc but no guarantees we come back

Somehow need a new rent deal struck so we tjese games can continue whilst actual club and fans can ignore it again fot a while
 

Captain Dart

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #75
Some very worrying scenarios being painted here.
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #76
stupot07 said:
People frothing on facebook. Saying they will only get STs if at the Ricoh.
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They'd also be frothing if it got to the deadline with Wasps still refusing to talk and the club didn't have another option prepared.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #77
cc84cov said:
The ground share will be until wasps go bust can anyone really see wasps here 5-10 years time ? I think if we move now it won’t be a quick return...
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Or we go bust first with crowds of 1000 or less.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #78
Just went to the article, to learn.....nothing new? Haven't read any of the posts on this thread (but will in a minute) but that is rehashing old news - ggrr to the CET. Slight retraction, in that they may have confirmed no enquiries from CCFC about playing at various places (that may be new, if so - apologies1)
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #79
Captain Dart said:
Some very worrying scenarios being painted here.
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worrying beacue they are very real. Not saying I disagree, but fans happier this time to follow the club out of Cov is very worrying.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #80
ccfcway said:
worrying beacue they are very real. Not saying I disagree, but fans happier this time to follow the club out of Cov is very worrying.
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Why is it worrying?
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #81
fernandopartridge said:
Why is it worrying?
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because if we leave for Nuneaton, or bedworth, or walsall etc, this isn't like last time when we thought we have had an empty stadium to bargain with.

Unless something changes, (SISU court case win, wasps financial needs, council change of heart etc) where is the come back point ?

It may not come to any of this and we get another deal for a year, which would be great, but surely its worrying ?
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #82
Magwitch said:
And ccfc won’t go bust ? Wherever we go our current regular 10/11000 gate will reduce by about 75%. I’d give us two seasons max.
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Disagree.
First of all, as long as we’re somewhat close to home (local non league, Walsall etc), they wouldn’t be that low I don’t think. Second of all, Rochdale, Burton, Accrington, and Fleetwood are not going bust in L1 with average attendances of under 3500, and there are 9 L2 teams with under 3500 attendances. From a business perspective, Sisu could sell top players, not agree to big contracts, and keep us alive if a groundshare is for an extended period of time. Plus, there’s a possibility we get promoted this season.
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #83
We’ll probably groundshare until Sisu are done with the Ricoh court row, at which point they’d either (try to) get us back at the Ricoh or try to sell.
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #84
CanadianCCFC said:
We’ll probably groundshare until Sisu are done with the Ricoh court row, at which point they’d either (try to) get us back at the Ricoh or try to sell.
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How long do we think that could be ?, 5 / 10 years ?

As their “losses” continue to mount, surely they wilingness to continue increases ?
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #85
ccfcway said:
How long do we think that could be ?, 5 / 10 years ?
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Who knows could be a year could be 10
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #86
cc84cov said:
Who knows could be a year could be 10
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Agreed that no one knows. Not sure I agree that it could be 1 year. This is what they do.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #87
ccfcway said:
Agreed that no one knows. Not sure I agree that it could be 1 year. This is what they do.
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If wasps continue to lose 10m plus a year if players leave after this season attendances drop and let’s say they get relegated which is possible it could be but I don’t think it will be that quick.
 
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CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #88
ccfcway said:
How long do we think that could be ?, 5 / 10 years ?

As their “losses” continue to mount, surely they wilingness to continue increases ?
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How many more courts are there? (Serious question I don’t know the UK/EU court system perfectly)
 
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CharlesMore

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #89
CanadianCCFC said:
Disagree.
First of all, as long as we’re somewhat close to home (local non league, Walsall etc), they wouldn’t be that low I don’t think. Second of all, Rochdale, Burton, Accrington, and Fleetwood are not going bust in L1 with average attendances of under 3500, and there are 9 L2 teams with under 3500 attendances. From a business perspective, Sisu could sell top players, not agree to big contracts, and keep us alive if a groundshare is for an extended period of time. Plus, there’s a possibility we get promoted this season.
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Leonard Brady.......

Local, Walsall

Teams not going bust in L1 with fates of 3500, maybe, but they don’t progress up the ladder without a benefactor.

Are you advocating a return to league 2 ?

SISU could sell some top players, not agree to big contracts, then wave goodbye to Mark Robins, we pay poor money anyway, you get what you pay for and again prepare for league 2 at best.

Nice to see the lessons of the past have been learnt you tool.
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #90
CharlesMore said:
Leonard Brady.......

Local, Walsall

Teams not going bust in L1 with fates of 3500, maybe, but they don’t progress up the ladder without a benefactor.

Are you advocating a return to league 2 ?

SISU could sell some top players, not agree to big contracts, then wave goodbye to Mark Robins, we pay poor money anyway, you get what you pay for and again prepare for league 2 at best.

Nice to see the lessons of the past have been learnt you tool.
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Relax yourself. I didn’t say that the situation described was ideal. All I did was respond to someone who said we’ll go bust in 2 years max.
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #91
CharlesMore said:
Leonard Brady.......

Local, Walsall

Teams not going bust in L1 with fates of 3500, maybe, but they don’t progress up the ladder without a benefactor.

Are you advocating a return to league 2 ?

SISU could sell some top players, not agree to big contracts, then wave goodbye to Mark Robins, we pay poor money anyway, you get what you pay for and again prepare for league 2 at best.

Nice to see the lessons of the past have been learnt you tool.
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And if it comes to that, it won’t be permanent, just until Sisu finish in the courts and sell, or get back to the Ricoh.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #92
CanadianCCFC said:
And if it comes to that, it won’t be permanent, just until Sisu finish in the courts and sell, or get back to the Ricoh.
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The Euro court system I believe could take upto 3 years just to start and then there’s sure to be an appeal procedure from either beaten side, we could do with knowing the exact procedure and possible time structure and that of the civil courts too.
You miss a vital point though by saying “or get back to the Ricoh” from where ?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #93
Absolute farce!! How could efl agree to another move out of coventry?
 
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ccfcway

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #94
Sky Blue Pete said:
Absolute farce!! How could efl agree to another move out of coventry?
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not sure what choice they will have.

If they boot us out, surely they become the next in line for court as they will be playing their part in ccfc and its owners losing money ?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #95
Sky Blue Pete said:
Absolute farce!! How could efl agree to another move out of coventry?
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It's my mood today.
However, it is very changable.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #96
They can agree to it to keep the club alive. It’s better than not existing?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #97
SkyBlueZack said:
They can agree to it to keep the club alive. It’s better than not existing?
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I repeat, I think it's a fair question to ask our owners how they intend to ensure our continued existence, should we move again.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #98
This situation is fucking heartbreaking

Surely Something has to give
 
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Gibbo

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #99
Isn't the problem (Problems, problems I hear you say) that if SISU lose their action, then Wasps, whom you all hate, will be in charge in perpetuity and will have CCFC over a barrel regarding rent. But at the same time a new stadium is probably not commercially viable without the arrival of a new well-meaning sugar daddy/mummy. As SISU shows no intention of leaving, heaven knows why, It is in our interests imho for them to either win or have the capacity to cause damage to Wasps' wobbly business model. Sort of hole them below the waterline approach. That at least evens up the negotiating pitch.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #100
cc84cov said:
Who knows could be a year could be 10
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How long were Brighton out of their home before coming back
 

torchomatic

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #101
shmmeee said:
Don’t like how ground share seems to have become Plan A.

Suggests that Westminster meeting went even worse than we thought.
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Wonder what Cllr Duggins has to say on the meeting. Oh wait, he couldn't be arsed to go.
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #102
Sky Blue Pete said:
Absolute farce!! How could efl agree to another move out of coventry?
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Didn't the club have to pay the EFL a £1M bond, the last time we moved out of Cov?
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #103
no_loyalty said:
Didn't the club have to pay the EFL a £1M bond, the last time we moved out of Cov?
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They didn't have to actually pay anything. They had to agree to pay it if they didn't come back.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Mar 19, 2019
  • #104
chiefdave said:
They didn't have to actually pay anything. They had to agree to pay it if they didn't come back.
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the Toe Rag at MK Dons didnt have to pay his million for not coming back to Wimbledon LOL
 
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