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ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #36
Deleted member 5849 said:
I think it's a fair question to ask our owners how they intend to ensure our continued existence, should we move again.
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It’s simple, by winning a court case and then leaving.

Anything else and we are always in the same fight with the council we have been for years. Wasps having the ground has introduced another party we are fighting against.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #37
Sky Blue Pete said:
I wouldn’t get a season ticket if we moved out of coventry. It’s awful we are here again what a farce
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It’ll all be sorted at the Ricoh I’m convinced of it, wasps can’t turn the easy income imo.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #38
Nick said:
That's the worrying bit isn't it
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AFC Coventry Wasps v Bognor Regis 12:30
Wasps v Bristol 15:30
Wasps Netball v Loughborough Ladies 19:30
Fireworks in car park A 21:30
Plastic flag waving 22:00

 
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ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #39
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
It’ll all be sorted at the Ricoh I’m convinced of it, wasps can’t turn the easy income imo.
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It depends on what outcome they want ? If they are worried about the legals, you could easily argue they can’t afford not to let us go as it may cost a lot less in missed rent than SISU winning a court case.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #40
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Has Cov City chief dropped a big hint about a groundshare?

'Marginally outside'

What a mess this is becoming
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I personally think we will be doing a ground share SISU will sit & wait nothing will come they will play the victim ground-sharing hoping wasps go broke in the mean time...
 
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CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #41
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
It’ll all be sorted at the Ricoh I’m convinced of it, wasps can’t turn the easy income imo.
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Especially with us going up and them going down.
 
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CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #42
Been thinking it’ll end up a ground share. Not ideal but better a short term ground share than liquidation. Hopefully somewhere closer to Coventry than Northampton.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #43
ccfcway said:
It depends on what outcome they want ? If they are worried about the legals, you could easily argue they can’t afford not to let us go as it may cost a lot less in missed rent than SISU winning a court case.
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Suppose very true it’d make for a very tense sporting City in general if they don’t!
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #44
cc84cov said:
I personally think we will be doing a ground share SISU will sit & wait nothing will come they will play the victim ground-sharing hoping wasps go broke in the mean time...
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You may well be right.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #45
ccfcway said:
You may well be right.
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Lost £10m this past year plummeting attendances players want to leave could well be relegated next season I think a year ground share is fully on the cards.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #46
stupot07 said:
I didn't go the sixfields out of principle, however i would probably continue to have a ST if we were forced to ground groundshare this time.

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I suspect the owners are relying on many others saying / doing the same thing. The feeling around here and elsewhere seems to be tha this time it’s someone else’s fault, but last time it was the owners fault ?
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #47
cc84cov said:
I personally think we will be doing a ground share SISU will sit & wait nothing will come they will play the victim ground-sharing hoping wasps go broke in the mean time...
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That’d be the fairytale ending!
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #48
cc84cov said:
Lost £10m this past year plummeting attendances players want to leave could well be relegated next season I think a year ground share is fully on the cards.
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Hope so, moves the problem on 12 months doesn’t it
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #49
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
That’d be the fairytale ending!
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Just can’t see any positive outcome mate unless wasps feel for us fans and give them another year but wil they back down from their stance ? Can’t see it
 

SBAndy

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #50
Wonder how much the lease will be available for in a year’s time? Obviously with the condition that the secured lending is paid off.
 

Gibbo

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #51
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Has Cov City chief dropped a big hint about a groundshare?
tiati
goNe
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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Has Cov City chief dropped a big hint about a groundshare?

'Marginally outside'

What a mess this is becoming
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Negotiating tactic almost certainly
 
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CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #52
Yes
Gibbo said:
Negotiating tactic almost certainly
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But also a legitimate plan B at this point.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #53
CanadianCCFC said:
Yes

But also a legitimate plan B at this point.
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Close to plan A I think mate these groundshare talks will be happening as we speak I would say
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #54
Ground share again looks like a possibility but this time it’s different to the Northampton time. Then I was always confident we would be back there was at the time an empty stadium to come home to, this time however there is nowhere to come back to so either sisu do find land and build a new stadium or we stay out of Cov for a long time.

And if they go back down the groundshare route again suggests to me whatever the result at this forthcoming appeal Sepalla intends to carry on the legals either through Europe or the civil courts.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #55
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
AFC Coventry Wasps v Bognor Regis 12:30
Wasps v Bristol 15:30
Wasps Netball v Loughborough Ladies 19:30
Fireworks in car park A 21:30
Plastic flag waving 22:00

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That’s some people’s wet dream.
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #56
Magwitch said:
Ground share again looks like a possibility but this time it’s different to the Northampton time. Then I was always confident we would be back there was at the time an empty stadium to come home to, this time however there is nowhere to come back to so either sisu do find land and build a new stadium or we stay out of Cov for a long time.

And if they go back down the groundshare route again suggests to me whatever the result at this forthcoming appeal Sepalla intends to carry on the legals either through Europe or the civil courts.
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We thought we were going back to an empty stadium. How wrong we were.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #57
eastwoodsdustman said:
We thought we were going back to an empty stadium. How wrong we were.
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I know but it seemed to get us scurrying back a bit with our tails between our legs and was somewhere to go, this time can’t see how we’d get back unless we build our own and if it all started tomorrow I’d say it would be a minimum 3,year project.
 

JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #58
ccfcway said:
I suspect the owners are relying on many others saying / doing the same thing. The feeling around here and elsewhere seems to be tha this time it’s someone else’s fault, but last time it was the owners fault ?
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I think the difference is that this time the club has tried to distance itself from the owners, and has openly said they want to stay at the Ricoh. If we don't, then it looks as if we're being thrown out of the city. This wasn't the case last time. But that argument becomes obviously complicated by the 'SISU are the football club and can stop legal proceedings to solve the problem' viewpoint.
 
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wince

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #59
ccfcway said:
It’s simple, by winning a court case and then leaving.

Anything else and we are always in the same fight with the council we have been for years. Wasps having the ground has introduced another party we are fighting against.
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I think your right , that that is SISU plan, however last time we told the efl that it was Tempary till the ground was built , this time are they saying its Tempary depending on winning a court case that they have already lost so many times , would the other teams agree to allowing sisu to dictate to them ,where they want to play , and for how long , just my thoughts , don't think its as clear cut as just moving again
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #60
I think that is sisu’s big problem last time there were promises and assurances to the EFL from Tim Fisher about building a new ground, we know how that panned out, we don’t know to this day where the land was. Fisher is still here don’t think that helps dispite him saying this time he’s not with sisu.
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #61
ccfcway said:
I suspect the owners are relying on many others saying / doing the same thing. The feeling around here and elsewhere seems to be tha this time it’s someone else’s fault, but last time it was the owners fault ?
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Yes and no.

I think the feeling is that its more complicated this time and it's not solely down to the owners, and that the club is being used as a pawn by all involved. The club have said they wanted to stay, it's not the clubs decision to move out.

You can argue whether sisu should drop the legal, however there is nothing stopping wasps from doing business or even having talks. Plenty of businesses have legal disputes but carry on working together. O2 are taking Ericsson to court over the network drop out a few months a go. They will continue to work together.

The other thing, it that the assurances that the council gave when they sold the ricoh, yet now they are saying that it was only for the initial 4 years.

You can also add in the whole "washing its face", "build bridges then we can discuss possible sale".....whilst already agreeing the deal with wasps.

If wasps and the council were playing with a straight bat, many would be feeling the same as before and sisu would be getting 99%+ blame like last time.



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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #62
CanadianCCFC said:
Been thinking it’ll end up a ground share. Not ideal but better a short term ground share than liquidation. Hopefully somewhere closer to Coventry than Northampton.
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Apparently Rugby Town's f.c. Butlin Road , holds nearly 6k, half of those spaces are under cover with 740 under cover seating.

That's better than Nuneaton f.c.

Mr Boddy has said he is in talks and has two options.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #63
stupot07 said:
People frothing on facebook. Saying they will only get STs if at the Ricoh.

It's only right that the club are looking at a contingency plan. Ricoh will still be plan A, but if its "get kicked out of the football league" or "temporary ground share outside the city" then I know which option I would prefer.

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Frothing, or just really fucked off ?! You really make life easy for SISU . Who the fuck wants to go through that farce again and how do you know just how temporary it all would be ?! SISU will take this club down to extinction at this rate and you will be partly culpable if you don't fight the wankers !
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #64
Ashdown said:
Frothing, or just really fucked off ?! You really make life easy for SISU . Who the fuck wants to go through that farce again and how do you know just how temporary it all would be ?! SISU will take this club down to extinction at this rate and you will be partly culpable if you don't fight the wankers !
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Absolute bullshit. None of this is down to me, you or any other fan. Lets not go down the scab route again. This is down to sisu, council, wasps and Higgs, plus Richardson et al.

And no ones wants to go through that again, but no one wants the club to be expelled from the league and put out of existence!!

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cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #65
wince said:
I think your right , that that is SISU plan, however last time we told the efl that it was Tempary till the ground was built , this time are they saying its Tempary depending on winning a court case that they have already lost so many times , would the other teams agree to allowing sisu to dictate to them ,where they want to play , and for how long , just my thoughts , don't think its as clear cut as just moving again
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The ground share will be until wasps go bust can anyone really see wasps here 5-10 years time ? I think if we move now it won’t be a quick return...
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #66
I think Sisu have known it will be a ground share for a while they know wasps won’t back down they will sit this out away from the Ricoh problem is how long will it take for wasps to break and where will the groundshare be...
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #67
And ccfc won’t go bust ? Wherever we go our current regular 10/11000 gate will reduce by about 75%. I’d give us two seasons max.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #68
Magwitch said:
And we won’t go bust ? Wherever we go our current regular 10/11000 gate will reduce by about 75%.
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Well... can reduce costs too. Sell Bayliss, not offer new contracts to anybody, bring through da yoof...

Depends what the strategy is though. Moving away last time was a loss leader. Is it this time?
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #69
Magwitch said:
And ccfc won’t go bust ? Wherever we go our current regular 10/11000 gate will reduce by about 75%. I’d give us two seasons max.
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Player sales will cover it mate no doubt
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 18, 2019
  • #70
eastwoodsdustman said:
We thought we were going back to an empty stadium. How wrong we were.
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exactly. If anything this move could be more important than the last one, as we may not have anything to come back to (if the same parties are still here).
 
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