Bobby Thomas (1 Viewer)

procdoc · Oct 23, 2024

He’s just been a poor signing overall. It summed him up last season when he started laughing after scoring an own goal.

He constantly tries to bring the ball out of defence, only to run into the opposition and lose it. He makes rash decisions on and off the ball. He’s basically become a liability.

Is it an attitude problem or is he just not good enough?

clint van damme · Oct 23, 2024

Binks achieved the seemingly impossible last night anand made Thomas look like not the worse CB on the pitch, but yeah, he's very poor, as are all our CBs in my opinion.

Flying Fokker · Oct 23, 2024

And so the day began

SeaSeeEffCee · Oct 23, 2024

He’s rubbish.

Marty · Oct 23, 2024

Every CB is absolutely dire, I got ridiculed on here for saying exactly that in the summer. We need to bring in a new spine to this team that are all old experienced leaders. I think that will sort most of the problems out.

ms639 · Oct 23, 2024

In Thomas and Kitching we signed 2 league 1 centre backs.

They’re still 2 league 1 centre backs

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Cally Fedora · Oct 23, 2024

We’re asking them to do the wrong thing though. Lati and Thomas are two of the worst ball playing CH’s you’ll see. So why are we asking them to play out. It’s madness. Binks can play a 15 yard pass but can’t defend. I’ll never be convinced that having your players who are poorest on the ball on it for the most time is a sensible tactic.

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 23, 2024

Yeah werid one as I don’t think he’s that awful on short passes and shifting it but we try and play at times with such a high tempo it ends up going nowhere.

Trying to back the lads and think Confidence is a major issue here as we say last year that he can be decent championship CB but the longer this goes on, the more I wished we went in for Luke and paid the premium or did a swap with Hamer like was rumoured at the time.

fernandopartridge · Oct 23, 2024

Another quality thread, weirdly after Thomas performs pretty well

skybluecam · Oct 23, 2024

No idea how you could watch that last night and think Thomas is near the top of our list of issues.

Lati was 10x worse for a start.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Oct 23, 2024

Actually played pretty good last night, so did Sheaf and Eccles and Dasilva

2024/25 League 1 Champs? · Oct 23, 2024

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Actually played pretty good last night, so did Sheaf and Eccles and Dasilva

Eccles? was this autocorrect? he was toilet

CCFCSteve · Oct 23, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
Another quality thread, weirdly after Thomas performs pretty well

It’s always got to be one players fault !

We haven’t had a settled back line all season, it’s no coincidence we look all over the shop

I wonder what’s going on on the training pitch as under Lawrence when we had a settled back line, these same players were pretty solid

Deity · Oct 23, 2024

Robins changes the defensive and goalkeeping positions too often. You won’t defend well until that stops and relationships build.

alexccfc99 · Oct 23, 2024

Of all the people to dig out last night Thomas (or any of the centre halves) is an odd choice

SkyB · Oct 23, 2024

Bobby Thomas in the middle of the back three works so much better imo. Reduce the need for his limited on the ball skill and plays into his strength of interceptions and tackling.

Although with him at the heart I do fear for those moments when he goes brain dead and plays 5 yards behind everyone else.

He has all the raw attributes to step in to Fadz shoes over the next 2 years but needs to improve his leadership of the defence. Robins should be driving up to Yorkshire daily and begging Fadz to come back and tutor Bob.

SkyB · Oct 23, 2024

alexccfc99 said:
Of all the people to dig out last night Thomas (or any of the centre halves) is an odd choice

I think people are only digging him out because he tried to drive forward towards the end and lost the ball. One big negative action out weighs all the small positives he contributed in peoples eyes.

Yesterdays issue was not having replacements for the fullbacks. Milan and Jay knew they had to play at least 80, if not 90, yesterday so they had to keep something in reserve. The reason we looked so empty in the midfield and struggled to progress the ball through it was due to Jay and Milan not varying there starting position when the CBs had the ball. Sheaf or Eccles should be dropping deep, next to Bobby, Lats and Binks move to a more traditional RB/LB position and Milan and Jay show for the ball on the touchline and can play off the other 2 CMs. With both having to play 90s it meant they got lazy and just defaulted further up the pitch leaving QPR space to press and our patterns of play became so predictable that and SBT 11 could have dispossessed us.

Skyblue in Baku · Oct 23, 2024

SkyB said:
I think people are only digging him out because he tried to drive forward towards the end and lost the ball. One big negative action out weighs all the small positives he contributed in peoples eyes.

Yesterdays issue was not having replacements for the fullbacks. Milan and Jay knew they had to play at least 80, if not 90, yesterday so they had to keep something in reserve. The reason we looked so empty in the midfield and struggled to progress the ball through it was due to Jay and Milan not varying there starting position when the CBs had the ball. Sheaf or Eccles should be dropping deep, next to Bobby, Lats and Binks move to a more traditional RB/LB position and Milan and Jay show for the ball on the touchline and can play off the other 2 CMs. With both having to play 90s it meant they got lazy and just defaulted further up the pitch leaving QPR space to press and our patterns of play became so predictable that and SBT 11 could have dispossessed us.

Who is Jay?

procdoc · Oct 23, 2024

alexccfc99 said:
Of all the people to dig out last night Thomas (or any of the centre halves) is an odd choice

I’m not just basing it on last night. I didn’t mention last night in my post. Weird how people think I am basing this off one game

procdoc · Oct 23, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
Another quality thread, weirdly after Thomas performs pretty well

It’s observation on his entire time here so far really. He has the odd really good game and the rest of the time he is mediocre

rob9872 · Oct 23, 2024

Bobby is 23 with loads of improvement still in him. Those asayin ghe was League 1, he outperformed for a L1 team near the top of the table (at 21) and we actually signed him from Burnley, not Barnsley. He gets stuck in, his positioning to defend and some of the clearances he's made this season have been excellent and he wins headers at the other end of the pitch too (already scored and been very unlucky not to against both Leeds and Preston).

Last night if Dovin doesnt chuck one in we keep a clean sheet and yet we have a thread on how bad our centre half is. I sometimes wonder if some people have ever watched let alone played the game.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 23, 2024

We do have to remember that just because a player is young does not automatically mean they will get better. Many get worse.

rob9872 · Oct 23, 2024

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
We do have to remember that just because a player is young does not automatically mean they will get better. Many get worse.

I hope that's not true of Dovin or we really are fekked!

SkyB · Oct 23, 2024

Skyblue in Baku said:
Who is Jay?

Dasilva

alexccfc99 · Oct 23, 2024

procdoc said:
It’s observation on his entire time here so far really. He has the odd really good game and the rest of the time he is mediocre

That’s fair enough and you have a point but when you start a thread criticising a certain player in the immediate aftermath of a match it’s not a reach to think that it’s a knock at his performance last night

Paxman II · Oct 23, 2024

This is getting silly, picking on players randomly makes little sense. Thomas and Binks and Kitching are all good CB's. The real issue is the support of the deep midfielders protecting them. Our midfield needs attention. We don't yet have a player that can influence the midfield to take the pressure away from the defenders. Hamer was that person. Liam Walsh was that person. Sheaf can't do it all on his own. Eccles, Allen, are not that person. I would like to see Torp given a run in the side, he clearly has a good brain and something Simms is crying out for.

Grendel · Oct 23, 2024

Paxman II said:
This is getting silly, picking on players randomly makes little sense. Thomas and Binks and Kitching are all good CB's. The real issue is the support of the deep midfielders protecting them. Our midfield needs attention. We don't yet have a player that can influence the midfield to take the pressure away from the defenders. Hamer was that person. Liam Walsh was that person. Sheaf can't do it all on his own. Eccles, Allen, are not that person. I would like to see Torp given a run in the side, he clearly has a good brain and something Simms is crying out for.

I don’t rate Binks in the slightest - I thinks he’s awful

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 23, 2024

Grendel said:
I don’t rate Binks in the slightest - I thinks he’s awful

Not awful, but I was a bit surprised we paid what we did to get him.

procdoc · Oct 23, 2024

Grendel said:
I don’t rate Binks in the slightest - I thinks he’s awful

See I prefer Binks to Kitching

alexccfc99 · Oct 23, 2024

Grendel said:
I don’t rate Binks in the slightest - I thinks he’s awful

I do believe had he not crunched into Bruno Fernandes at Wembley not many people would have cared either way if he come back or not

rob9872 · Oct 23, 2024

alexccfc99 said:
I do believe had he not crunched into Bruno Fernandes at Wembley not many people would have cared either way if he come back or not

Tbf for a loan player, I loved his reaction to the goal that was disallowed at Wembley. You could see it genuinely meant something. Last season I thought he should've had more game time, he's currently struggling for form, but he's not alone in that. In part I think to chopping and changing between personnel and systems. Assuming we get through this tricky spell, I think we then need to pick a system and a line up and stick with it, good or bad for at least 6-7 games and hopefully see encouraging signs of improvement game on game.

Cally Fedora · Oct 24, 2024

Depends what you want from a defender. Binks defensively is not good at all. In fact a left flank of him and Dasilva is a dream come true for the opposition. Kitching is a better defender and can pick the odd good pass. On balance I’d prefer Kitching. Thomas and Kitching for me. Lati has played better recently but he scares me shitless on the ball.

Otis · Oct 24, 2024

Cally Fedora said:
Depends what you want from a defender. Binks defensively is not good at all. In fact a left flank of him and Dasilva is a dream come true for the opposition. Kitching is a better defender and can pick the odd good pass. On balance I’d prefer Kitching. Thomas and Kitching for me. Lati has played better recently but he scares me shitless on the ball.

Yeah, I think he went on the same Ball Trap For Beginners Course as Ellis Simms. Both of them quitting after the first day.

SkyBlueDom26 · Jan 1, 2025

He’s terrible

JoeCCFCPUSB · Jan 1, 2025

We genuinely need 2 new centre backs at this level, Binks, Kitch, Thomas are not at this level, simple as that.

I rate Dovin, even when he got skinned when he came running out after our defence had fucked it, he put the player off and ultimately saved us.

Simms just needs minutes, simple as that. He boy ain't gonna press for 90 minutes, not happening, he's 6ft2. We play to his strengths and he will be a problem.

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