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Well if he lives up to his potential that fee will be miniscule
Well if he lives up to his potential that fee will be minisculeProbably be like a 20m option lol
Agree. Absolutely no way should we be paying 2 million for a loan.Circa £2m loan fee. No thank you.
We shouldn’t be using our relatively limited funds on one off costs to develop other clubs players.
I’d sooner spend £2m on a high potential foreign signing ….
…Or not watching at all and letting my imagination run wild.You must
You must have been watching very closely. Ayari played even less minutes there than he did here, wasn’t even in the squad for 3 games and his knob failed to score any goals. It looks as if Blackburn found him even more underwhelming than we did.
I like Kasey, he's "almost" a fantastic player but it was clear today that wide left is not his position,got to be Haji or Emc on the wide left (is it just me that thinks Emc is left side or nothing ?), Kasey will be used from the bench if he stays beyond the transfer window.
Regarding Bobby Clark,great prospect, it will be very late in the transfer window if we get him on loan.l won't be holding my breath tbh because it would be an expensive loan fee for a player we won't (potentially) Profit from,not Doug's m.o. I'm afraid.
The only person who’s said we’re interested in Madsen is a random bloke on TwitterThis instead of Madsen? Or only if Vik doesn't get sold?
I actually like seeing Palmer play, but he was pretty poor first half but was better second half.
Likely to be some player if he's made 6 appearances for Liverpool by the age of 19.Too young for me. 19, only 6 appearances for the Liverpool first team. Sounds like another Ayari loan for me.
We need a solid CM to support the talent that we do have in the middle.
Loan fees for kids is a joke. You’re paying to improve someone else’s player. Loan fees should be banned entirely TBH. You can’t let big clubs suck up all the youth then allow them to charge extortionate fees for clubs to have them back.
Just on that principle alone I wouldn't want to take him if they wanted a loan fee.
The monopoly that big clubs have on young players has to be broken.
How do you know this?Circa £2m loan fee. No thank you.
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Not sure he is the miss ingredient, I'd say we need competition/back up for Sheaf over any other type of player in our midfield.Don't agree with loan fees either really, but if he genuinely is the missing ingredient that takes us over the line then it's chicken feed to premier league money.
I am sure there was some post ridiculously over priced about how much Hull paid to loan Carvalho in January.How do you know this?
I am not sure any side gets automatic promotion without a loan from a Premier League team, especially without having ben in the PL recentIy. It's a question of getting the right one of course and this guy looks like it to me. Question is can we afford him.Don't agree with loan fees either really, but if he genuinely is the missing ingredient that takes us over the line then it's chicken feed to premier league money.
Likely to be some player if he's made 6 appearances for Liverpool by the age of 19.
We’re one of a number of clubs interested in a loan move for the talented Liverpool CM youngster
Liverpool won’t rush decision over Bobby Clark’s future
Liverpool are in no rush to make a decision on Bobby Clark’s future in the face of strong interest from Red Bull Salzburg. The 19-year-old midfielder missed the current tour of the US due to a back problem but has since returned to training with the club’s under-21s at Kirkby. Austrian side...www.nytimes.com
Doug is not going to pay a big fee for a rental with no chance of signing the player on a permanent basis. I really like the player but its not going to happen on the terms rumored.
Yeah this is why I like him compared to other young loan players, he’s got that dog in him and likes the physical battle rather than shying away from it like most.Just talking to a Scouse mate of mine , he said Bobby Clark is a proper number 8 , loves a tackle and is a bit of a hard nut . Very highly regarded by Liverpool Fc
We have no idea that that is correct. See above there was a crazy fee mentioned in January about Carvalho going to Hull.19 years old, more likely to be Ayari #2 than the experienced head we need in there. Let someone else take the punt on him for £2m loan fee!!
Totally agree and as I keep saying we don't know that the £2million loan fee is true.All signings and loans are a gamble - albeit in our recent history a much better researched gamble.
In the worst case scenario, signing a young player for £2 million and then paying £600K every year for the next 4 years is a gamble - that player could flop and have no re-sale value. We're stuck with a player not featuring.
I do agree with the primary model of finding value with young players with very high potential ceilings - Wright, Simms, MVE as the best examples of this policy last year. We will make big profits on these players and early indications are that BTA, Rudoni and EMC will fall into the same camp.
Doesn't rule out selective loans though. If spending £2 million over the next 12 months results in raising our profile, adding that extra quality, having players on the same wavelength (for example another elite midfielder will make Rudoni even better) and ensuring we are play off contenders it simply pays for itself.
If the story were to be true and £2m was shelled out, it would certainly show the intention of DK (The Club)& MR along with his staff! A few years back we would be begging for this to happen.Totally agree and as I keep saying we don't know that the £2million loan fee is true.
Only if we sell Sheaf you would imagine...Is there no chance of signing permanently? If we had an option to buy dependant on promotion that could be a good deal. They want 12 million for a permanent, which if promoted (and he plays a key role in that is a potentially great deal).
If true a loan fee of £2m seems a bit excessive, just think there's better value to be had from abroadTotally agree and as I keep saying we don't know that the £2million loan fee is true.
Especially as PL teams have a mechanism in place to hoover up other teams academy prospects for a pittance.They always want to have their cake and eat it. If you buy the idea that the best method for developing talent is they go to the biggest academies then get experience lower down on loan (and I’m not saying I do agree with that), then you can’t just have frankly ludicrously low payments to clubs when you steal a player from them and make those clubs pay through the nose for the privilege of giving them experience in competitive football.
Either compensate clubs properly for stealing players they’ve identified and nurtured or have a system where the big clubs pay the wages and choose loan clubs based on what’s best for the player not their pocket books. Ideally both.
I've advocated something similar but with a low wage cap outside of a core number rather than forcing them to be released. No problem with them employing thousands of 18 year olds but it ought to pay more to play for Doncaster than be nowhere near the first team for Man City.Especially as PL teams have a mechanism in place to hoover up other teams academy prospects for a pittance.
I've said it many times but 40 pro-player squad cap - no exceptions. Everyone else has to be released.
We have no idea if true and what sort of player from abroad could you get for £2 million, including presumably four years of salary? Would they be worth having?If true a loan fee of £2m seems a bit excessive, just think there's better value to be had from abroad
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