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Senior Vick from Alicante

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #141
torchomatic said:
Nope.
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Thought not, perhaps Bluesky is the best place for you.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #142
Pretty much done with this conversation now.

But remember, this forum is for all City fans. The closet Stalinists and borderline Maoists act on here sometimes like there is a consensus with their opinions.

No one has a right to not be offended. No one has a right to not see/hear things they disagree with.

And most of all, your political opinions do not determine if you're a decent person or not.
 
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napolimp

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #143
bigfatronssba said:
They fought Fascism.

Silencing people that you disagree with is Fascism
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Elon Musk Accused Of ‘Silencing His Critics’ As X Suspends Journalists

The right-wing lurch of X under Elon Musk

Twitter/X is suspending way more people under Elon Musk

Elon Musk's X Is Suspending Accounts That Reveal a Neo-Nazi Cartoonist's Alleged Identity

Free Speech Absolutist Elon Musk Keeps Using X to Suppress Views He Doesn't Agree With
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #144
bigfatronssba said:
Pretty much done with this conversation now.

But remember, this forum is for all City fans. The closet Stalinists and borderline Maoists act on here sometimes like there is a consensus with their opinions.

No one has a right to not be offended. No one has a right to not see/hear things they disagree with.

And most of all, your political opinions do not determine if you're a decent person or not.
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I wouldn’t say a Neo-Nazi is a decent person, would you?
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #145
bigfatronssba said:
Yeah you stick to interacting with only people you agree with. That is definitely the most mature approach
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I interact with who I want, it’s my freedom of choice you bellend
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #146
Sick Boy said:
I wouldn’t say a Neo-Nazi is a decent person, would you?
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Unless I knew the person, and understood their reason for their opinions, I can't answer that.

Would you say a hard line Communist is a decent person?
 
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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #147
@Nick This needs binning in the ‘Off Topic’
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #148
procdoc said:
I interact with who I want, it’s my freedom of choice you bellend
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Where have I said you couldn't?

Only one of us wants to limit who we interact with
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #149
harvey098 said:
I was on a coach yesterday and this guy got on. It does feel as though they’re emboldened recently and almost proud of it.

(not England btw… Byron Bay in Aus and he was an Aus local)
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Fucking hell.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #150
bigfatronssba said:
They fought Fascism.

Silencing people that you disagree with is Fascism
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Err…no it’s not.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #151
bigfatronssba said:
Unless I knew the person, and understood their reason for their opinions, I can't answer that.

Would you say a hard line Communist is a decent person?
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I think I’ll leave it at that.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #152
Sick Boy said:
Err…no it’s not.
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That's exactly what it is.

Fascism is tyranny

Silencing people you disagree with is tyranny
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #153
Sick Boy said:
I think I’ll leave it at that.
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I think you best.

Basically you think the most murderous ideology the world has ever known is ok
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #154
bigfatronssba said:
That's exactly what it is.

Fascism is tyranny

Silencing people you disagree with is tyranny
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Isnt that what Elon Musk has done by "tweaking" the algorithms to amplify one set of ideology over another in an attempt to silence them?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #155
bigfatronssba said:
That's exactly what it is.

Fascism is tyranny

Silencing people you disagree with is tyranny
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You’re basically just parroting stuff you’ve read online at this point.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #156
Didn't realise Elon was a Cov fan
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #157
stupot07 said:
Isnt that what Elon Musk has done by "tweaking" the algorithms to amplify one set of ideology over another in an attempt to silence them?
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If thats what he has done, then yes, I'd agree.

What I would say is you argue against this, not go and set up an echo chamber. That will just make things worse
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #158
bigfatronssba said:
I think you best.

Basically you think the most murderous ideology the world has ever known is ok
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I didn’t say anything about communism whereas you’d entertain the possibility that a neo-nazi could be a ‘decent’ person after going on about WW2 veterans. You’re all over the place.
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #159
Sick Boy said:
You’re basically just parroting stuff you’ve read online at this point.
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I know what fascism is mate. I learned about it at school in the 90s
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #160
bigfatronssba said:
Where have I said you couldn't?

Only one of us wants to limit who we interact with
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Why would I want to interact with people whose views are not dissimilar to those of Adolf Hitler? Why would I want to interact with people that shame others because of their race, religion, sexual orientation etc? There is no ‘discussion’ to be had with these people. They just call you a leftie snowflake if you try and debate them. They’re all thick as pig shit and hide behind fake accounts with pictures of union jacks. Fucking Tommy Robinson wannabe cunts
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #161
Sick Boy said:
I didn’t say anything about communism whereas you’d entertain the possibility that a neo-nazi could be a ‘decent’ person after going on about WW2 veterans. You’re all over the place.
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Twitter is full of Communists. An evil ideology that killed millions.

Yet you only want to talk about the Nazis on there. Why is that?
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #162
bigfatronssba said:
Twitter is full of Communists. An evil ideology that killed millions.

Yet you only want to talk about the Nazis on there. Why is that?
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You’re full of shit
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #163
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Thought not, perhaps Bluesky is the best place for you.
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Yep.
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #164
torchomatic said:
Yep.
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It’s a myth that you can’t have a debate on blue sky too. I have had a few but they’ve respectful and not escalated into vitriolic abuse
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #165
procdoc said:
Why would I want to interact with people whose views are not dissimilar to those of Adolf Hitler? Why would I want to interact with people that shame others because of their race, religion, sexual orientation etc? There is no ‘discussion’ to be had with these people. They just call you a leftie snowflake if you try and debate them. They’re all thick as pig shit and hide behind fake accounts with pictures of union jacks. Fucking Tommy Robinson wannabe cunts
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Because in a democracy their opinion matters as much as yours. If their opinion is something you deplore, you have only two options.

1) Win them over (something you can only do by interacting with them)

2) Suspend their right to a democratic vote and only allow those you agree with to an opinion


If you take the approach of option 2, you become as tyrannical as those you claim to oppose
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #166
procdoc said:
You’re full of shit
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Oh, don't be abusive, I'll report you to the Bluesky guardians and you'll get sent to the naughty square like all the other fascists
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #167
Just merged the BlueSky Threads together.

Personally, it's obviously freedom of choice of which websites people use. If places are an echo chamber and that's what people want to see then so be it. Don't have to agree with it.

I think Blue Sky is actually open source anyway so people can install it / run it themselves if they wanted to .
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #168
procdoc said:
It’s a myth that you can’t have a debate on blue sky too. I have had a few but they’ve respectful and not escalated into vitriolic abuse
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Absolutely. In a nutshell.
 
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Alkhen

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #169
Nick said:
Isnt that a whatsapp group?
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Well actually the #PUSB feed reminds me of here
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #170
bigfatronssba said:
Because in a democracy their opinion matters as much as yours. If their opinion is something you deplore, you have only two options.

1) Win them over (something you can only do by interacting with them)

2) Suspend their right to a democratic vote and only allow those you agree with to an opinion


If you take the approach of option 2, you become as tyrannical as those you claim to oppose
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Their opinions do not matter to me. You can’t win racists over, you’re talking utter bollocks.
Also I didn’t say they can’t have or voice an opinion. I just don’t need to see it when I’m looking for posts about football and wrestling
 
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napolimp

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #171
bigfatronssba said:
Pretty much done with this conversation now.
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... 10 responses later

 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #172
bigfatronssba said:
Oh, don't be abusive, I'll report you to the Bluesky guardians and you'll get sent to the naughty square like all the other fascists
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You are really embarrassing yourself
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #173
procdoc said:
You are really embarrassing yourself
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Like you did here right before saying I was "full of shit"?

"It’s a myth that you can’t have a debate on blue sky too. I have had a few but they’ve respectful and not escalated into vitriolic abuse"
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #174
napolimp said:
... 10 responses later

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You're absolutely right, I'm off
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #175
bigfatronssba said:
Like you did here right before saying I was "full of shit"?
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Here's the thing. You are.
 
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