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shmmeee

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #106
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ok let’s all calm down
Why do you think the decision is being taken?
it’s not to reduce atmosphere
It’s not to annoy you
It’s not to make the atmosphere worse
Why do you think it is?
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Because an Advisory Group has to advise, there’s never going to be a meeting where they all sit around and say everything is fine. And the club are always going to follow their advice. And the reason for both is if something happens someone’s arse is on the line if it’s been considered and not actioned.

So you get a constant ratcheting up of safety measures with no counteracting force the other way.
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #107
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ok let’s all calm down
Why do you think the decision is being taken?
it’s not to reduce atmosphere
It’s not to annoy you
It’s not to make the atmosphere worse
Why do you think it is?
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You've listed them all. There is no other reason.

Man calls another man a wanker is not a reason. If it was, all football grounds would be closed permanently.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #108
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ok let’s all calm down
Why do you think the decision is being taken?
it’s not to reduce atmosphere
It’s not to annoy you
It’s not to make the atmosphere worse
Why do you think it is?
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No idea why it's been made, it's baffling.
What has it achieved?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #109
theferret said:
You've listed them all. There is no other reason.

Man calls another man a wanker is not a reason. If it was, all football grounds would be closed permanently.
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Wasn’t so long ago the entire crowd would stand up and chant “Wanker” sign and everything.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #110
clint van damme said:
Why has it been made?

These are the incidents we've had over the last couple of seasons, correct me if I'm wrong:

Derby fans allowed to encroach considerably towards City support across segregation.

Lone city supporter encroaches across segregation and slaps Derby supporter.

Fan invades pitch from around block 22/23 against Preston.

Fan invades pitch from around block 22/23 against Sunderland.

Tell me how ticket restrictions in14/15 and 2/3 prevent any of those incidents?
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It doesn’t so why do you think the decisions has been made?
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #111
clint van damme said:
No idea why it's been made, it's baffling.
What has it achieved?
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Absolutely baffling
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #112
Sky Blue Pete said:
It doesn’t so why do you think the decisions has been made?
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I've told you, I've no idea.
And I'll ask you again, what has it achieved?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #113
theferret said:
You've listed them all. There is no other reason.

Man calls another man a wanker is not a reason. If it was, all football grounds would be closed permanently.
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Go on think a little why would this decision be made?
To piss you off?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #114
Sky Blue Pete said:
It doesn’t so why do you think the decisions has been made?
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We've said, it's a massive overreaction to something that no one thinks is actually a problem
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #115
Sky Blue Pete said:
Go on think a little why would this decision be made?
To piss you off?
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We've said why it's been made

Ok, let's start looking for people to replace you.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #116
clint van damme said:
No idea why it's been made, it's baffling.
What has it achieved?
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Now that’s a good question
I’ll ask mark Hornby
I know the 15/16 stuff was totally on safety grounds as people refused to not stand on the stairs
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #117
David O'Day said:
We've said why it's been made

Ok, let's start looking for people to replace you.
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You may have missed the last forum I couldn’t make it so I asked on here on multiple occasions for someone to attend. No one did
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #118
David O'Day said:
We've said why it's been made

Ok, let's start looking for people to replace you.
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Why has it been made?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #119
clint van damme said:
I've told you, I've no idea.
And I'll ask you again, what has it achieved?
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I think it’s about the people over there not wanting to see swearing and goading and aggression but I’ll ask
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #120
Sky Blue Pete said:
You may have missed the last forum I couldn’t make it so I asked on here on multiple occasions for someone to attend. No one did
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cool, we'll see when it is and if so we can make sure someone else does it if you are not going to stand up for city fans
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #121
Sky Blue Pete said:
Now that’s a good question
I’ll ask mark Hornby
I know the 15/16 stuff was totally on safety grounds as people refused to not stand on the stairs
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Was there an issue with people standing on the stairs in 2 and 3?
Is Hornby a wasps left over, is he still waiting on his bond pay out?
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #122
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why has it been made?
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being of a massive overreaction to a non problem if it is swearing etc, something that happens in every football ground with no overreaction like this.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #123
Sky Blue Pete said:
Now that’s a good question
I’ll ask mark Hornby
I know the 15/16 stuff was totally on safety grounds as people refused to not stand on the stairs
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Genuine question: why not kick those people out if they ignore stewards? Do they not have the ability to call someone trained over? Removing a whole block from sale because a handful of people are standing on the stairs. It would need a lot of stewarding to start but once people are banned or whatever it would calm down.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #124
Sky Blue Pete said:
I think it’s about the people over there not wanting to see swearing and goading and aggression but I’ll ask
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Football of course famous worldwide for its non goading, non aggressive fans with the exception of Coventry
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #125
Sky Blue Pete said:
Now that’s a good question
I’ll ask mark Hornby
I know the 15/16 stuff was totally on safety grounds as people refused to not stand on the stairs
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People did move of the stairs when challenged last year.

challenge this shit instead of just saying "ok sir"
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #126
Hi xxxx
Great to see you yesterday
Lots of questions being asked about why tickets have been taken off sale for blocks 2 and 3.
Was it a safety decision and one the club had any say over?
The feeling is that this and extending the segregation from the blocks in the corner is having a negative impact on the atmosphere in the stadium

Anyway would be useful to know why the decision has been made?

Thanks
Pete
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #127
clint van damme said:
Football of course famous worldwide for its non goading, non aggressive fans with the exception of Coventry
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You mistake me for someone that agrees with the decision without knowing why the decision has been taken.
I just find it bizarre that people get so exercised over where they can and cannot sit when we’ve won 5 in 6
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #128
David O'Day said:
cool, we'll see when it is and if so we can make sure someone else does it if you are not going to stand up for city fans
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Wow are you ok?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #129
Sky Blue Pete said:
You mistake me for someone that agrees with the decision without knowing why the decision has been taken.
I just find it bizarre that people get so exercised over where they can and cannot sit when we’ve won 5 in 6
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because it's fucking bollocks Pete

It's the type of shite we should be pushing to the press about the substandard GAG we have
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #130
David O'Day said:
People did move of the stairs when challenged last year.

challenge this shit instead of just saying "ok sir"
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You don’t know me at all do you. You don’t get to challenge if you wander into a discussion telling people they talk shit and not speaking with respect
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #131
David O'Day said:
because it's fucking bollocks Pete

It's the type of shite we should be pushing to the press about the substandard GAG we have
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Gag?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #132
Sky Blue Pete said:
You mistake me for someone that agrees with the decision without knowing why the decision has been taken.
I just find it bizarre that people get so exercised over where they can and cannot sit when we’ve won 5 in 6
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Pete, come on, we should ignore a poor decision because we've won 5 in 6? What the hell?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #133
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wow are you ok?
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sound mate, is it a strange POV to think city fans and the people who use this forum should be represented by someone who challenges poor decisions?

So if you are unwilling to call this ok at fans forum why shouldn't someone else have a go?
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #134
Sky Blue Pete said:
Gag?
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sorry typo, SAG
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #135
Shame, Dan fucked off to work for the Villa as I would of got a real answer from him.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #136
shmmeee said:
Genuine question: why not kick those people out if they ignore stewards? Do they not have the ability to call someone trained over? Removing a whole block from sale because a handful of people are standing on the stairs. It would need a lot of stewarding to start but once people are banned or whatever it would calm down.
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I’ll answer cause yih wont tell me I lick peoples shoes if I try and give an alternative opinion

From what I’ve seen on the videos it causes a flashpoint and friends of the person being removed cause a safety issue on a set of stairs that comes with all sorts of risks

I’ve not seen it tried in the corner david says when people were asked to move they did. It wasn’t what was said in the forum last year and it’s not my experience travelling around away grounds some fans don’t listen to their mates let alone a steward asking them
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #137
clint van damme said:
Pete, come on, we should ignore a poor decision because we've won 5 in 6? What the hell?
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That really wasn’t what I said come on play fair
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #138
David O'Day said:
People did move of the stairs when challenged last year.

challenge this shit instead of just saying "ok sir"
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All that was needed in 14-16 were ticket checks and enforcement. Restricting sales was not needed as has been proven, the unsold seats are empty every week, so there is no overcrowding and zero evidence of people sneeeking in without tickets. The ticket checks are working.

Thay they continue to use this as a reason to not release those seats for sale has to be questioned. The whole policy is now based on a lie.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #139
theferret said:
All that was needed in 14-16 were ticket checks and enforcement. Restricting sales was not needed as has been proven, the unsold seats are empty every week, so there is no overcrowding and zero evidence of people sneeeking in without tickets. The ticket checks are working.

Thay they continue to use this as a reason to not release those seats for sale has to be questioned. The whole policy is now based on a lie.
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This is the thing, if they'd properly policed the corner as they do this year then no issue.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2023
  • #140
Sky Blue Pete said:
That really wasn’t what I said come on play fair
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Really?
 
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