Sky Blue Pete
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Yep didn’t see any trouble against Sunderland lol
A guy legged it on the pitch
Non issue for me until we sell out why wouldn’t the safety advisory group seek to reduce flash points
Yep didn’t see any trouble against Sunderland lolMaybe if we didnt have twats running on the pitch with blue flares then the SAG may be a bit more lenient.
Some of our fans have contributed to this decision
What an utterly bizarre take.
Increases the requirement for considering what stewarding is thereWhat's that got to do with closing Block 2 and 3!?
Not from the mid-90s it wasn't, the away fans were in the corner adjacent to the WT.Okay, curiosity piqued. What's bizarre about it ? We've got a stadium that is rarely filled and an entire stand that has more empty seats than taken for most games (or that's how it looks). So closing one or two problematic blocks and looking for the fans to move isn't bizarre at all. And before the word "problematic" is focussed on, you have to ask why would the SAG pick those two blocks out of the whole ground if they weren't ?
No it's not. West Terrace (under the West Stand) was at the opposite end to the away fans at Highfield Road. Much like the North is opposite the away fans at the CBS. The only scenario where your comment is even partially right is if they've extended the pitch length significantly at the CBS.
I know everyone likes Singers Corner but is there any logistical problems why the North Stand couldn't be where the home fans congregate ? More room, same acoustics. Or is the need to be close to the away fans essential to supporting your team and watching a game of football ?
Away fans were seated directly to left of the west terrace. At least be factual in trying to defend your argumentOkay, curiosity piqued. What's bizarre about it ? We've got a stadium that is rarely filled and an entire stand that has more empty seats than taken for most games (or that's how it looks). So closing one or two problematic blocks and looking for the fans to move isn't bizarre at all. And before the word "problematic" is focussed on, you have to ask why would the SAG pick those two blocks out of the whole ground if they weren't ?
No it's not. West Terrace (under the West Stand) was at the opposite end to the away fans at Highfield Road. Much like the North is opposite the away fans at the CBS. The only scenario where your comment is even partially right is if they've extended the pitch length significantly at the CBS.
I know everyone likes Singers Corner but is there any logistical problems why the North Stand couldn't be where the home fans congregate ? More room, same acoustics. Or is the need to be close to the away fans essential to supporting your team and watching a game of football ?
Yep involved as a kid when Portsmouth and Leeds fans attacked kids it was lovely let’s do that againNot from the mid-90s it wasn't, the away fans were in the corner adjacent to the WT.
what does that have to do with the blocks in questionMaybe if we didnt have twats running on the pitch with blue flares then the SAG may be a bit more lenient.
Some of our fans have contributed to this decision
when did you last sit in the wt?Okay, curiosity piqued. What's bizarre about it ? We've got a stadium that is rarely filled and an entire stand that has more empty seats than taken for most games (or that's how it looks). So closing one or two problematic blocks and looking for the fans to move isn't bizarre at all. And before the word "problematic" is focussed on, you have to ask why would the SAG pick those two blocks out of the whole ground if they weren't ?
No it's not. West Terrace (under the West Stand) was at the opposite end to the away fans at Highfield Road. Much like the North is opposite the away fans at the CBS. The only scenario where your comment is even partially right is if they've extended the pitch length significantly at the CBS.
I know everyone likes Singers Corner but is there any logistical problems why the North Stand couldn't be where the home fans congregate ? More room, same acoustics. Or is the need to be close to the away fans essential to supporting your team and watching a game of football ?
They’re a joke, have been for years and only seem to be get worse.
At Huddersfield on Saturday, there was little more than a stair widths segregation between home and away fans and whilst there was a bit of banter as expected, nothing boiled over due to the steward and police presence. The same can be said of many other grounds throughout the country.
I don’t recall seeing any other club being so insistent on thousands of seats being taken off sale. They are even restricting away sales now too. Surely the club and Fraser’s can contest this?
Yes close enough to see tears in their eyes.Yeah, we were really close to home fans at Huddersfield on Saturday. Same with the Rotherham fans the other week. All part of the fun.
when did you last sit in the wt?
Away fans were seated directly to left of the west terrace. At least be factual in trying to defend your argument
I think the reason why the SAG are all over us is because the behaviour of some fans in general - the fighting in and outside the stadium, the people running onto the pitch…how long have you gotwhat does that have to do with the blocks in question
if you where there after the mid 90s you would of been next to the away fansHR closed in 2005, I was last there 2002ish.
Thought I was. Knew away fans were in that stand at the end of the 80s as my first game was against Millwall. Came away richer than I went in with all the coins they threw at usBut thought that stand was converted to all home from the mid-90s ??!!
Yep involved as a kid when Portsmouth and Leeds fans attacked kids it was lovely let’s do that again
Okay, curiosity piqued. What's bizarre about it ? We've got a stadium that is rarely filled and an entire stand that has more empty seats than taken for most games (or that's how it looks). So closing one or two problematic blocks and looking for the fans to move isn't bizarre at all. And before the word "problematic" is focussed on, you have to ask why would the SAG pick those two blocks out of the whole ground if they weren't ?
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I know everyone likes Singers Corner but is there any logistical problems why the North Stand couldn't be where the home fans congregate ? More room, same acoustics. Or is the need to be close to the away fans essential to supporting your team and watching a game of football ?
Increases the requirement for considering what stewarding is there
Genuinely what do you think would happen if supporters were next to one another?
And before you answer nothing
Tell me what has happened before when fans were closer
That said there is a supporters forum but the club are not swayed by fans they prefer to agree safety issues with safety experts and the police advice. I know gove would disagree but surely we raise expert opinion rather than john from the pub
Again we are nowhere near selling out so unless you think people don’t bother coming if they can’t sit close to away fans then it’s not a priority surely
Is one way of seeing the decisions being taken under advisement by the clubThe Ricoh has been open nearly 20 years. How many times have away fans breached segregation at either side to attack fans?
None.
Port Vale tried once and got stopped by one police officer.
The simple fact is, they are doing everything they can to move fans further apart. That's fine on paper but completely destroys the atmosphere and limits capacity in popular areas.
Included on one of their videos was what they described as a group of people behaving appallinglyWe go away to stadium's every week where fans are stood next to each other. There's not been issues inside a stadium at any away game this season.
At Huddersfield you could almost touch the home fans. No bother and a brilliant atmosphere.
Having a huge gap of segregation allows pumped up kids from either sides to get excited and act up.
I think the reason why the SAG are all over us is because the behaviour of some fans in general - the fighting in and outside the stadium, the people running onto the pitch…how long have you got
They obviously think that blocks 2 and 3 are a potential flashpoint
Whether I agree or not or am right or wrong, there is a reason why the SAG are going what they are doing.
Maybe if we didnt have twats running on the pitch with blue flares then the SAG may be a bit more lenient.
Some of our fans have contributed to this decision
Yep didn’t see any trouble against Sunderland lol
A guy legged it on the pitch
Non issue for me until we sell out why wouldn’t the safety advisory group seek to reduce flash points
Is one way of seeing the decisions being taken under advisement by the club
Atmosphere is great not at the expense of safety I assume most people would agree
Included on one of their videos was what they described as a group of people behaving appallingly
face facts that are a number of bone headed fans that ruin the experience for everyone else.
If it was sold out revisit it
I don't think there's any other industry that treatment of everyone is dictated by the potential behaviour of a small minority. Yet this has driven football policy for decades. 'Take your bottle tops off your water bottles in case you use it as a weapon', 'No flasks in case you're smuggling in alcohol', 'Can't sit within 3 blocks of the away fans in case you attack them'. It's pathetic and it creates more tension.Yep involved as a kid when Portsmouth and Leeds fans attacked kids it was lovely let’s do that again
Is one way of seeing the decisions being taken under advisement by the club
Atmosphere is great not at the expense of safety I assume most people would agree
Why the present twats have fucked up everything they’ve done in the city including the football club. Just look at the City of Culture fiasco claimed and took any plaudits available then take no responsibility for the losses incurred. Put people in charge of it who wouldn’t open the visitors centre. Spend a fortune on St Mary’s Hall surrounded now by piles of rubbish, Spon Street covered in litter, unnesesary road works. How about illegal parking throughout the city, or what about enforcing local bylaws. How about them doing what they’re supposed to do??????I'll pass thanks!
Why the present twats have fucked up everything they’ve done in the city including the football club. Just look at the City of Culture fiasco claimed and took any plaudits available then take no responsibility for the losses incurred. Put people in charge of it who wouldn’t open the visitors centre. Spend a fortune on St Mary’s Hall surrounded now by piles of rubbish, Spon Street covered in litter, unnesesary road works. How about illegal parking throughout the city, or what about enforcing local bylaws. How about them doing what they’re supposed to do??????
Well that’s your democratic right, not to vote in a democracyI'm not defending the 'present twats' and won't be voting for them either, but I'm not voting tory!
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