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  • Start date May 2, 2015
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #71
nick said:
administrate what?

How the hell could i know if there will be a points deduction or not, hence i asked the question?

If you are going to try and have some sort of dig at me, at least try to make sense with it.
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pusb
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #72
hill83 said:
My only worry if we did it is what the sanctions/fines etc would be. I'm all for protesting, but if it does indeed end up in a points deduction for them that's not the route I would want us to go down.
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In all honesty, Blackpools season had finished in October as everyone knew then they would be relegated after the first 2 months of the season. Its not something I would encourage when you are still competing and have something to play for
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #73
CCFC said:
In all honesty, Blackpools season had finished in October as everyone knew then they would be relegated after the first 2 months of the season. Its not something I would encourage when you are still competing and have something to play for
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There's also next season to think about. Anyway. Let's see what happens.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #74
hill83 said:
There's also next season to think about. Anyway. Let's see what happens.
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God Forbid.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #75
Don't believe in god.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #76
hill83 said:
Don't believe in god.
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He won't be happy to hear that.
 
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Godiva

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #77
SBT said:
I don't know everything, so couldn't say for sure, but I'll take it slowly for those who don't know the basics.

Like most fans, I know the FA could threaten them with a points deduction. Historically, I can't find any examples of a club being deducted points for a pitch invasion, except for Brighton, which was their second offence after a suspended deduction. The fact this game was actually abandoned, and the fact it's the last game of the season (complicating the ability to reschedule) may impact on the FA's decision. Again, I don't have any specialist knowledge here - this is just my basic knowledge.

I don't frequent Blackpool forums (thank god), so I can't say for definite, but I would imagine there's been some robust debate about the rights and wrongs of protesting this way, and the possible punishments it could incur. Clearly a sizeable group of fans (including those who didn't invade, but stayed and applauded the ones who did) are aware of the risks, but believe their cause is ultimately more important. Personally I think that's commendable. Of course, I accept there are those who prioritise stability/maintaining business as usual above all other concerns. Clearly there are plenty on here who fit into that camp - good luck to them all.
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I don't think points deduction is on the cards.
Most likely the club will face a hefty fine.

The invaders is likely going get a long ban - the rules say up to 10 years from any football.
On top of that they will get a fine from the police and have a criminal record. Make it hard(er) to find a new job.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #78
Godiva said:
I don't think points deduction is on the cards.
Most likely the club will face a hefty fine.

The invaders is likely going get a long ban - the rules say up to 10 years from any football.
On top of that they will get a fine from the police and have a criminal record. Make it hard(er) to find a new job.
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A criminal record.............Jesus H !! Was anyone arrested ? Are they really going to trawl through footage of 300 or so fans ? Bans are only enforceable if people are spotted anyway !
 

CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #79
Fair play to them. The FL have brought this on themselves by allowing people like the Oystons to own clubs. If they had bollocks this thread wouldn't exist. Know some Blackpool fans that have said what he has done is unbelievable. Texting supporters to mock that they're going down. Suing the fans. Paying himself the highest recorded wage for a director of a football club in this country the season they got relegated. Starting pre season with not enough players for a Futsal squad and cancelling friendlies because of it. The list is extensive.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 2, 2015
  • #80
hill83 said:
I understand they are frustrated but this is not the way to go about it. "ooh, they are on the pitch, I'm selling up now lads"
I don't know what they can do though to be fair. But I seriously hope we never go this route.
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Honestly don't know what to make of it myself.

Wouldn't do it myself, as I'm a wussy coward Do think it shows proactive protests rather than passive ones are what gets attention though, in whatever form.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #81
Deleted member 5849 said:
Honestly don't know what to make of it myself.

Wouldn't do it myself, as I'm a wussy coward Do think it shows proactive protests rather than passive ones are what gets attention though, in whatever form.
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I'm all for it, we've lacked strength in the middle of the park all season long.
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • May 2, 2015
  • #82
Jack Griffin said:
Some lads climbing into the directors box
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The one shown on Sky Sports News had a mask on, the brave lad!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 2, 2015
  • #83
Otis said:
I'm all for it, we've lacked strength in the middle of the park all season long.
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don't wear your best shoes though, they will get ruined!
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #84
sw88 said:
The one shown on Sky Sports News had a mask on, the brave lad!
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Chilly up there today in the north was it?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #85
I applaud these supporters. They have the guts to risk being banned for a long period, maybe with a criminal record in some cases. People do this when there is nowhere else to go, when all else, including diplomacy, has been completely trampled upon.

City fans have endured far worse .....
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #86
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I applaud these supporters. They have the guts to risk being banned for a long period, maybe with a criminal record in some cases. People do this when there is nowhere else to go, when all else, including diplomacy, has been completely trampled upon.

City fans have endured far worse .....
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Well true, but at the end of the day this is a game of football. I am passionate about the City, but wouldn't risk getting a criminal record over it or being banned for god knows how many years.

Not exactly life or death or civil liberties, or a threat to your family or a great personal injustice, worth fighting for, is it.

Friend of mine lost both her kids in a court battle and she ended up in prison. Now THAT is something worth fighting over.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #87
Otis said:
Well true, but at the end of the day this is a game of football. I am passionate about the City, but wouldn't risk getting a criminal record over it or being banned for god knows how many years.

Not exactly life or death or civil liberties, or a threat to your family or a great personal injustice, worth fighting for, is it.

Friend of mine lost both her kids in a court battle and she ended up in prison. Now THAT is something worth fighting over.
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It's whatever the individual feels . To some people the loss of their football club is worth taking a risk for. In the grand scheme of things it's not life nor death but all the same it's important.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #88
If your football team is that important to you, then surely you wouldn't want to risk having a 10 year ban imposed on you whereby you couldn't then watch the team you love, would you?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 2, 2015
  • #89
Otis said:
If your football tram is that important to you
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Alan Bradley wouldn't like it.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #90
Surely they will have to play again behind closed doors?


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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #91
Deleted member 5849 said:
Alan Bradley wouldn't like it.
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Oops!! :facepalm:

Edited to make it sound like a much more serious point.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #92
Sorry for not having read whole thread (know what happened) but are they likely to be docked points at the start of next season? Assuming we are in the same league as them, I'll take any advantage we can get. Having said that, they are one of the few clubs who have owners that are on a par with ours in terms of likeability, so I should have more sympathy with them:thinking about:
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2015
  • #93
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Sorry for not having read whole thread (know what happened) but are they likely to be docked points at the start of next season? Assuming we are in the same league as them, I'll take any advantage we can get. Having said that, they are one of the few clubs who have owners that are on a par with ours in terms of likeability, so I should have more sympathy with them:thinking about:
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Apologies, decided to read back a few pages and can see that this has been debated to death !!!
 
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simonregis

New Member
  • May 3, 2015
  • #94
Nick said:
Will they be docked points next season and punished?

Imagine if they get relegated from league 1 after being 2 points from safety if they were docked 3 points for it.
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Possibly and that sums it up. Being docked points from the FA when they allow a person to buy the club only because he has money.
 
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The Gentleman

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2015
  • #95
Godiva said:
I don't think points deduction is on the cards.
Most likely the club will face a hefty fine.

The invaders is likely going get a long ban - the rules say up to 10 years from any football.
On top of that they will get a fine from the police and have a criminal record. Make it hard(er) to find a new job.
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Club won't face that much of a hefty fine when we see what is dished out racism and things like that in the game.

Do you really think that 'invaders' will get banned and a criminal record? If it were 5 people and they were intent on trouble then that is easy to ban them and throw them to the police, when it's 500 people do you really think that a club will want to lose that many paying customers? a bit naive to think like that.

Whether you call them invaders or protesters, they will not get a ban or a criminal record. Mass pitch invasions usually don't get into trouble, there is usually a bit of noise straight after the event but then it usually dies down. How many Cov fans got banned after the game at MK when there was a pitch invasion and a steward got clumped or when it was Preston/Burnley (not sure on teams but was North West) fans were on the pitch and were intent on attacking other fans or the thousands on the pitch at Villa Park recently? The Villa game were looking for people involved in trouble outside and at a pub but not on the pitch really. Same thing when you had Blues on the pitch at St Andrews when they played Villa, no banning orders for being on the pitch.
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • May 4, 2015
  • #96
I know this is the Daily Mail, but the article makes a few good points, not entirely irrelevant to the situation here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...all-League-let-Blackpool-hit-rock-bottom.html
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • May 4, 2015
  • #97
Jack Griffin said:
I know this is the Daily Mail, but the article makes a few good points, not entirely irrelevant to the situation here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...all-League-let-Blackpool-hit-rock-bottom.html
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Good article that. It would concern me if the FL changed tact and got involved with Blackpools owner having refused to go near Sisu.

It does raise an important thought though...at what point do the FL need to get involved? How many Coventrys, Blackpools etc need to happen for a drastic change in their policy?


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Jackoskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • May 4, 2015
  • #98
Skyblueweeman said:
Good article that. It would concern me if the FL changed tact and got involved with Blackpools owner having refused to go near Sisu.

It does raise an important thought though...at what point do the FL need to get involved? How many Coventrys, Blackpools etc need to happen for a drastic change in their policy?


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As long as teams are fulfilling their fixtures then the FA/FL won't care too much. It would take a championship team to be unable to fulfil fixtures in the middle of a season that would wake them up I feel.
 
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