BlueSkiesForever
Well-Known Member
Good. We absolutely need a quality keeper that we can rely on rather than playing musical chairs with a load of sub-par ones.
Nope, nothing further than we are 100% upgrading on Collins and Wilson is 100% gone
I agree but it might suggest left back is the only way we plan to upgrade our leaky defence and I’m not sure Bidwell defending was the problem….
Clearly upgrading Collins would also help ….
Might suggest we are not bringing in the experienced pro we expected
thomas
Lati
Binks
Kitching
can we really have a5th centre half when we play 2 ?
only 2 would even make the bench ….
Might suggest we are not bringing in the experienced pro we expected
thomas
Lati
Binks
Kitching
can we really have a5th centre half when we play 2 ?
only 2 would even make the bench ….
I think the point is they’ll all improve.I feel like I’m being pessimistic about every potential signing (bar Stamenic), but is Luis Binks the answer to our defence prayers?? Like he’s alright but he didn’t exactly shore-up our defence last season? Is he markedly better than Kitching? It’d be the exact same defence as last year, is that what we want?
to be fair it appears as if Stamenic is a done deal. He didn't say they would be announced this week. The club are clearly waiting to announce incomings, which leads me to believe that Raphael is more of a development talent than first team talentWould be an excellent signing but it's from gimoc. He did tell us 2 signings this week so let's wait for his redemption before we believe this yet
I feel like I’m being pessimistic about every potential signing (bar Stamenic), but is Luis Binks the answer to our defence prayers?? Like he’s alright but he didn’t exactly shore-up our defence last season? Is he markedly better than Kitching? It’d be the exact same defence as last year, is that what we want?
we'll have to wait for training camp photos and see if hes in the queue for the planeto be fair it appears as if Stamenic is a done deal. He didn't say they would be announced this week. The club are clearly waiting to announce incomings, which leads me to believe that Raphael is more of a development talent than first team talent
Kitching I thought was miles better than Binks last year generally. Far more aggressive... Although his form did dip a bit in the 2nd half of the season. Binks was exceptional when he came on Man United but can't recall him having many other very good games. Sounds like he developed very well as the season progressed from what Robins said but I'm on the fence on this one.Is he markedly better than Kitching? It’d be the exact same defence as last year, is that what we want?
Yeah agreed, biggest waste of 4 mil we’ve ever spent. Even at the time I had absolutely no idea why we were madly chasing after him. Probably lost at least 1/2-3/4 of that investment I imagine?Robins thinks so
As ive stated before Kitching really hasn't hit the heights MR expected of a 4 million quid signing. Doesn't do some of the defensive basics anywhere near as well as he should
Yeah agreed, biggest waste of 4 mil we’ve ever spent. Even at the time I had absolutely no idea why we were madly chasing after him. Probably lost at least 1/2-3/4 of that investment I imagine?
Robins thinks so
As ive stated before Kitching really hasn't hit the heights MR expected of a 4 million quid signing. Doesn't do some of the defensive basics anywhere near as well as he should
Binks is raw, much like thomas, but there is clear upside to work with and develop - the semi final cameo is the blueprint to be the norm not exception.Robins thinks so
As ive stated before Kitching really hasn't hit the heights MR expected of a 4 million quid signing. Doesn't do some of the defensive basics anywhere near as well as he should
True true, I’ve not written him off but so far it’s looking like a waste of money. Time will tell of course, I’m always happy to be proven wrong because if so then we’ve got a better team. I just hope we strengthen the defence more than buying the exact same defence as last season, it was absolutely woeful at times.Another for the vault. He definitely needs to improve and he will, I would have thought we would learn not to write a player off after one season.
We spent 6 million on Craig Bellamy. Kitching is a good player. I really don’t understand youYeah agreed, biggest waste of 4 mil we’ve ever spent. Even at the time I had absolutely no idea why we were madly chasing after him. Probably lost at least 1/2-3/4 of that investment I imagine?
Good signing. But we still need a horrible old bastard type at back for me!
Yeah agreed, biggest waste of 4 mil we’ve ever spent.
True true, I’ve not written him off but so far it’s looking like a waste of money. Time will tell of course, I’m always happy to be proven wrong because if so then we’ve got a better team. I just hope we strengthen the defence more than buying the exact same defence as last season, it was absolutely woeful at times.
He’s alright, I’ve nothing against him, I just haven’t seen anything spectacular yet that’s all. As I was saying above, I’m not writing him off yet, give him another season at least but I think the general consensus is our defence was shocking at times. If we have the same defence then how can we expect a different outcome? Unless all defenders involved have come on leaps and bounds, which is possible I suppose, just not probable.We spent 6 million on Craig Bellamy. Kitching is a good player. I really don’t understand you
Because it's bollocksThen why did Binks only start 15 games?
You haven't written him off but said he's the biggest waste of £4m ever spent.True true, I’ve not written him off but so far it’s looking like a waste of money. Time will tell of course, I’m always happy to be proven wrong because if so then we’ve got a better team. I just hope we strengthen the defence more than buying the exact same defence as last season, it was absolutely woeful at times.
Yeah maybe it’s a bit early to say but as it stands we’ve, at the very least, overspent on him. Just for the record I actually thought Simms & Wright would come good, a lot of people were slating them on here but I distinctly remember saying give them time and in the end they came good. I promise you I’m not the mean old pessimistic bastard I come across as, it’s just the transfers that have been suggested on here have been regressive and not bold enough in my view.If that isn't writing a player off, I'd hate to see what you say about someone you do.All I'm saying is it's a bit early to call him a waste of money, we do this every year. Simms & Wright were a waste of money for much of last season.
Perhaps re phrase - we need some experience/edge - wether that’s someone happy to play 20 games as centre half or midfielder - we just need that bit of edge/experience etcI know Fadz was good for us but that was in a back 3 where he had cover both sides to help him out. Now we play with just 2 CB’s I don’t think we have room for the “horrible old slow-poke bastard” type.
Also look at all the top teams in the prem, I’m not saying “get their players” obviously but we should try to emulate them as much as possible in my view. None of the top teams play with a horrible old bastard at the back. Arsenal probably have the best defence and they play with 2 measured, strong, calm defenders in Gabriel and Saliba. Man City likewise, always a young, fairly quick CB pairing. Same for most teams in the top half. I think we’ve done well with the horrible slow bastard type in the past but we need to look forward and be more progressive if we want to get into the prem, just my personal opinion.
Perhaps re phrase - we need some experience/edge - wether that’s someone happy to play 20 games as centre half or midfielder - we just need that bit of edge/experience etc
ExactlyYou haven't written him off but said he's the biggest waste of £4m ever spent.
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