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Billy Daniels to Notts County (5 Viewers)

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  • Start date Jan 14, 2015
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ajsccfc

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #71
Interesting to see if he came in as a forward for them. He was always billed as a striker but I don't remember ever seeing him used as such with us. I did see Jermaine Grandison up top that time though mind you.
 
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CCFC_Charlie

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #72
Good to know that one goal for Daniels instantly makes letting go of him a mistake despite consistently not looking good enough while here.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #73
chiefdave said:
You have to say something is wrong here with the number of players who leave, particularly youngsters, having been written off as not up to standard and immediately start playing better and doing well for teams higher up the FL than us.
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A person I know involved in the Youth set-up told me that Daniels felt he was being pressurised during his spells in the first team and was feeling 'burnt out'. He (person connected with the Youth team) actually blamed SISU more than SP.
 

Joy Division

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #74
CCFC_Charlie said:
Good to know that one goal for Daniels instantly makes letting go of him a mistake despite consistently not looking good enough while here.
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But nobody looks good here at the moment, what is your point?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #75
dubed said:
A person I know involved in the Youth set-up told me that Daniels felt he was being pressurised during his spells in the first team and was feeling 'burnt out'. He (person connected with the Youth team) actually blamed SISU more than SP.
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He barely played (about 20-25 apps last season and hardly any this season) and has just moved clubs in search for first team football, seems a bit odd.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #76
Ridiculous to let him go. Absolutely ridiculous. IF sp rated him and let him go to notts co for first team football it's another terrible decision by him and the club
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #77
Now Pressley says he didn't want him to go......

.....he's not put daniels anywhere near the first team this season bar 1 JPT game.


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Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #78
stupot07 said:
Now Pressley says he didn't want him to go......

.....he's not put daniels anywhere near the first team this season bar 1 JPT game.


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When he sees how the players chosen ahead of him have fared, can you blame him for wanting first team football? He's certainly been leapfrogged by Finch with little justification (other than Finch being defensively minded!) and Barton brought back from the bomb squad over him. To all intents and purposes, it looked like Daniels was being frozen out. Odd way to treat a player who you "didn't want to lose"!
 

Nick

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #79
Nonleagueherewecome said:
When he sees how the players chosen ahead of him have fared, can you blame him? He's certainly been leapfrogged by Finch with little justification (other than Finch being defensively minded!) and Barton brought back from the bomb squad over him. To all intents and purposes, it looked like Daniels was being frozen out. Odd way to treat a player who you "didn't want to lose"!
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Same as the best finisher he has ever seen, who can't get a look in either.

With Daniels, it isn't like with Baker where people can say it is all about wages either can they?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #80
No, Daniels must have been on peanuts.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #81
Nonleagueherewecome said:
When he sees how the players chosen ahead of him have fared, can you blame him for wanting first team football? He's certainly been leapfrogged by Finch with little justification (other than Finch being defensively minded!) and Barton brought back from the bomb squad over him. To all intents and purposes, it looked like Daniels was being frozen out. Odd way to treat a player who you "didn't want to lose"!
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I don't particularly rate Daniels but it is because he is an idiot.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #82
Wants to keep Daniels - Never plays him

Wants or has wanted to get rid of Tudgay, Miller, Barton, Jackson at some point this season - plays them


Steven Pressley logic
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #83
CCFC said:
Wants to keep Daniels - Never plays him

Wants or has wanted to get rid of Tudgay, Miller, Barton, Jackson at some point this season - plays them


Steven Pressley logic
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Sounds more like desperation to me to deflect blame.
 
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CCFC_Charlie

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #84
Joy Division said:
But nobody looks good here at the moment, what is your point?
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Well I'm not talking about now seeing as he's not played for months. Bar the few goals he scored at the start of the last season, which hardly anyone on here even saw considering two of them were scored at Sixfields, he's never looked good enough. Are people forgetting when he couldn't get a look in in League Two on loan last season or does only this move count as him being a success? Typical Cov fans making rash judgements after 1 game. If the show was on the other foot and we'd signed Daniels from Notts County with an identical record and he's scored on his debut you lot would all be telling us not to get ahead of ourselves as it's only one game.
 

Joy Division

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #85
CCFC_Charlie said:
Well I'm not talking about now seeing as he's not played for months. Bar the few goals he scored at the start of the last season, which hardly anyone on here even saw considering two of them were scored at Sixfields, he's never looked good enough. Are people forgetting when he couldn't get a look in in League Two on loan last season or does only this move count as him being a success? Typical Cov fans making rash judgements after 1 game. If the show was on the other foot and we'd signed Daniels from Notts County with an identical record and he's scored on his debut you lot would all be telling us not to get ahead of ourselves as it's only one game.
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I think mst people saw his goals as we have tv's/internets

Who has looked good enough?

Barton couldnt get a look in at Fleetwood, yet he doesnt look anything special

If we signed someone from another team with an identical record and he scored for us I'd be pretty fucking happy
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #86
dubed said:
A person I know involved in the Youth set-up told me that Daniels felt he was being pressurised during his spells in the first team and was feeling 'burnt out'. He (person connected with the Youth team) actually blamed SISU more than SP.
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Yep I've heard similar with Willis through a workmates family connection
 
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CCFC_Charlie

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #87
Joy Division said:
I think mst people saw his goals as we have tv's/internets

Who has looked good enough?

Barton couldnt get a look in at Fleetwood, yet he doesnt look anything special

If we signed someone from another team with an identical record and he scored for us I'd be pretty fucking happy
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It's not about just seeing the goals on the internet. It's about watching the game and seeing how he played, and part of that is exactly the point I'm making. People are judging Daniels off of a few goals they saw him score on YouTube last season as opposed to his actually performances in better sides where he looked out of his depth, and even this season when he played an looked dreadful. Yeah, you can say that no-one has looked good this season but bar the very start of last season Daniels hasn't never looked like anything amazing. I don't understand your point about Barton either? What exactly is that supposed to mean? At the end of the day he's scored one goal and some people on here are acting like we've let our best player go. Nope. We let go of an average player who never really looked up to standard in this league. He might have success at Notts County, he might not, but let's wait until he played more than 15 minutes of football before we started acting like we made a massive mistake letting him go.
 

valeskyblue

Member
  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #88
CCFC said:
Wants to keep Daniels - Never plays him


Wants or has wanted to get rid of Tudgay, Miller, Barton, Jackson at some point this season - plays them


Same with Jordan Clarke, ironically the ones he didn't back go on to be a goal machines at mk dons an Gillingham
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Astute

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #89
CCFC_Charlie said:
It's not about just seeing the goals on the internet. It's about watching the game and seeing how he played, and part of that is exactly the point I'm making. People are judging Daniels off of a few goals they saw him score on YouTube last season as opposed to his actually performances in better sides where he looked out of his depth, and even this season when he played an looked dreadful. Yeah, you can say that no-one has looked good this season but bar the very start of last season Daniels hasn't never looked like anything amazing. I don't understand your point about Barton either? What exactly is that supposed to mean? At the end of the day he's scored one goal and some people on here are acting like we've let our best player go. Nope. We let go of an average player who never really looked up to standard in this league. He might have success at Notts County, he might not, but let's wait until he played more than 15 minutes of football before we started acting like we made a massive mistake letting him go.
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All of our players look shit playing for SP. Is every player shit or is it something to do with SP?
 

speedie87

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #90
Just seen Daniels goal

Absolute rocket volley into roof of net from edge of area.
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #91
speedie87 said:
Just seen Daniels goal

Absolute rocket volley into roof of net from edge of area.
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Here is it

https://vine.co/v/Oj6WFrTnzlK


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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #92
Great finish
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #93
Assist by Blair Adams....


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Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #94
Doh. "Lets take a look at what you could have won..."

Can you imagine Finch or Thomas ever scoring a goal like that? Or indeed Barton or Fleck as they're never that advanced up the pitch...plus, Fleck would have trapped that and passed it to someone else!
 

LJC_CCFC

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #95
Adams and Daniels in the side and we'd be top of the league.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #96
LJC_CCFC said:
Adams and Daniels in the side and we'd be top of the league.
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I don't think that anyone is saying that, more that players under-perform with us and we do let players go that we should have kept.
 

LJC_CCFC

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #97
Nonleagueherewecome said:
I don't think that anyone is saying that, more that players under-perform with us and we do let players go that we should have kept.
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Sweeping generalisation that could be applied to many clubs.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #98
stupot07 said:
Here is it

https://vine.co/v/Oj6WFrTnzlK


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Just like the one Conor Thomas could have scored on Monday night
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #99
wingy said:
Just like the one Conor Thomas could have scored on Monday night
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Yep, the difference between a striker/attacking midfielder and a defensive midfielder getting on the end of a chance like that.


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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #100
That sorta rubbish would never happen in a Steven Pressley team.

I'm guessing he probably played striker when he came on, like I said before I didn't really rate him but Pressley the idiot tried to convert him into a defensive midfielder.
 

LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #101
CCFC said:
That sorta rubbish would never happen in a Steven Pressley team.

I'm guessing he probably played striker when he came on, like I said before I didn't really rate him but Pressley the idiot tried to convert him into a defensive midfielder.
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I believe all that started with Thorn, who used him as the defensive midfielder in the diamond system.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #102
LJC_CCFC said:
I believe all that started with Thorn, who used him as the defensive midfielder in the diamond system.
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Beat me there
Indeed he did
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #103
LJC_CCFC said:
Sweeping generalisation that could be applied to many clubs.
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No they bloody aren't! We're talking specifcally about Daniels and Adams. Daniels should have been given an opportunity as an attacking midfielder rather than frozen out for, generally speaking, more defensive options; Adams should have been kept because he was the clubs best LB, but we let him go rather than pay the fee that was required after 50 appearances-and presumably because Pressley wanted Pugh rather than him.

As for players underperforming here, do you not agree? Didn't you say that Jackson was better than Wilson? What's the manager doing to bring him down to L2 standard, then?
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #104
Nonleagueherewecome said:
No they bloody aren't! We're talking specifcally about Daniels and Adams. Daniels should have been given an opportunity as an attacking midfielder rather than frozen out for, generally speaking, more defensive options; Adams should have been kept because he was the clubs best LB, but we let him go rather than pay the fee that was required after 50 appearances-and presumably because Pressley wanted Pugh rather than him.

As for players underperforming here, do you not agree? Didn't you say that Jackson was better than Wilson? What's the manager doing to bring him down to L2 standard, then?
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Jackson will score for fun for us in League 2 next season.


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Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 17, 2015
  • #105
stupot07 said:
Jackson will score for fun for us in League 2 next season.


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Only he's on a one year deal and we probably won't be able to afford his wages, especially given that we supposedly pushed the boat out to sign him (whoops!). Still, he'll probably go to someone like Gillingham and bang in 20 goals next season...it's the Coventry Way, don't you know.
 
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