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Bigger Budget ? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter rupert_bear
  • Start date Nov 7, 2015
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rupert_bear

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  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #1
Will the sacking, sorry resignation of Steve Waggott and the immediate hiring of this Chris Anderson mean a bit more dosh for Mowbray and Venus to strengthen our squad in January, or even before ? Lets be honest that's what most us fans are interested in.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #2
Why would it?


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CovLadies

New Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #3
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #4
Well yes but let me remind you "that better place" was almost division 4 short memories or what ! and if Anderson is here to broker something different a "bigger" budget for TM is something different isn't it ?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #5
Good riddance to Waggott and wish he had taken Fisher with him but I am not sure this latest one will be any better.
 
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CovLadies

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  • Nov 7, 2015
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #7
Might mean less. SW has to be payed off/up for starters and there's no denying that CA is more qualified than SW on paper at least if nothing else so chances are he's earning more than SW was.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #8
The Waggott departure is a bit of a mystery. Was he pushed or did he resign?
 

bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #9
skybluetony176 said:
Might mean less. SW has to be payed off/up for starters and there's no denying that CA is more qualified than SW on paper at least if nothing else so chances are he's earning more than SW was.
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How do you know that SW has to be paid off. Negotiations must have been going on with Anderson for weeks. Maybe SW has just been working his notice period without it bring common knowledge. TM and MV have stated that have had discussions with Anderson so has been carefully thought through. I would say very professionally handled.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #10
If Waggott was as good at negotiating his own deal as he was at doing it for the players last year he has probably had to pay the club to go.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #11
Not really getting the link to his appointment and a magical larger budget?
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #12
The change in CEO is not going to change the sources of income available to the club. Prime driver of that is the success or not of the team. So in short dont see how it improves the budget short term

He might bring new ideas but any significant change in income sources will take time to feed in

Why do people assume that a guy this well qualified will be cheaper to employ than SW?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #13
bawtryneal said:
How do you know that SW has to be paid off. Negotiations must have been going on with Anderson for weeks. Maybe SW has just been working his notice period without it bring common knowledge. TM and MV have stated that have had discussions with Anderson so has been carefully thought through. I would say very professionally handled.
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He'll have a contract. That will have to be settled.

Plus what OSB just said ^
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #14
skybluetony176 said:
He'll have a contract. That will have to be settled.

Plus what OSB just said ^
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But that does depend on whether he resigned or was sacked/asked to leave. If he resigned he won't be entitled to any pay off surely? Do we know if he was pushed or jumped?

For all we know he may have gone for family reasons, illness, etc and that this has been known by Club for a couple of months or so.

I do agree with you and OSB though, this doesn't mean any more /extra money / income streams, etc. Think Rupert is adding 2+2 together and getting something other than 4.

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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #15
oldskyblue58 said:
The change in CEO is not going to change the sources of income available to the club. Prime driver of that is the success or not of the team. So in short dont see how it improves the budget short term

He might bring new ideas but any significant change in income sources will take time to feed in

Why do people assume that a guy this well qualified will be cheaper to employ than SW?
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one quick job for him sort of the ticketing fiasco that we hear about before every game and see as we walk up to the ground
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #16
stupot07 said:
But that does depend on whether he resigned or was sacked/asked to leave. If he resigned he won't be entitled to any pay off surely? Do we know if he was pushed or jumped?

For all we know he may have gone for family reasons, illness, etc and that this has been known by Club for a couple of months or so.

I do agree with you and OSB though, this doesn't mean any more /extra money / income streams, etc. Think Rupert is adding 2+2 together and getting something other than 4.

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I guess that will depend on the terms of the contract. I would say I guess time will tell but we'll probably never know one way or the other I guess.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #17
stupot07 said:
Why would it?
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Due to the arguments presented in his book perhaps?

See Ch 10 Stuffed Teddy Bears, Football Accountants (Reprise) wherein he clarifies the strong correlation between wages and wins.

Note to Grendel, Yeovil winning this league a few seasons back on a small budget was a statistical aberration, this can happen.
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #18
stupot07 said:
But that does depend on whether he resigned or was sacked/asked to leave. If he resigned he won't be entitled to any pay off surely? Do we know if he was pushed or jumped?


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You are right mate, it depends on how you leave. Say if i leave my job and go back to the UK, i cant turn around and say to my employers i want money to leave. On the other hand, if my employers say to me that they are hiring a new person in my position and want me to go, a severance pay will be worked out ( unless it states in your contract that depending on X amount of years you are entitled to X amount of pay off). Reading SW comments though it seems to be his choice as he wanted to move closer to his family. Maybe he was planning on leaving, handed in his notice and
during that timed period they found a suitable replacement, therefore he would now be on gardening leave for the remainder of his notice.
 

stevefloyd

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #19
I was paid gardening leave but I got the last laugh I never went in the garden once ha ha ..up yours Eon
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #20
Garden leave is great might change jobs a bit more often as the last time I had it, I got a month a few weeks after I had just come back from two weeks paternity leave and two weeks holiday and a few days sick leave post snip, hardly worked a day in weeks.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #21
Jack Griffin said:
Due to the arguments presented in his book perhaps?

See Ch 10 Stuffed Teddy Bears, Football Accountants (Reprise) wherein he clarifies the strong correlation between wages and wins.

Note to Grendel, Yeovil winning this league a few seasons back on a small budget was a statistical aberration, this can happen.
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Jesus I didn't know he did know he knew rocket science.

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...urphy-wants-new-contract-with-Sky-Blues/page6

Still don't see how this changes anything. Sisu have thrown good money after bad, and have said they won't put any more funding in.

This is a well known fact, which I'm sure has been pointed out to them on a number of occasions. They won't get back to the boom or bust model.


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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #22
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Garden leave is great might change jobs a bit more often as the last time I had it, I got a month a few weeks after I had just come back from two weeks paternity leave and two weeks holiday and a few days sick leave post snip, hardly worked a day in weeks.
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Gardening leave is great if you can get it. Every opportunity i have had the bastards made me work my notice!
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #23
stupot07 said:
Jesus I didn't know he did know he knew rocket science.

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...urphy-wants-new-contract-with-Sky-Blues/page6

Still don't see how this changes anything. Sisu have thrown good money after bad, and have said they won't put any more funding in.

This is a well known fact, which I'm sure has been pointed out to them on a number of occasions. They won't get back to the boom or bust model.


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Top searching you have a gold star.
 
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Godiva

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #24
hamil99 said:
You are right mate, it depends on how you leave. Say if i leave my job and go back to the UK, i cant turn around and say to my employers i want money to leave. On the other hand, if my employers say to me that they are hiring a new person in my position and want me to go, a severance pay will be worked out ( unless it states in your contract that depending on X amount of years you are entitled to X amount of pay off). Reading SW comments though it seems to be his choice as he wanted to move closer to his family. Maybe he was planning on leaving, handed in his notice and
during that timed period they found a suitable replacement, therefore he would now be on gardening leave for the remainder of his notice
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It's not likely. They would have done a joint press conference.
But ok, that may be a slight PR hick-up - and we have seen a few of those from the club before.

If he left on his own accord and in full agreement with TF/SISU then he will certainly show up at the Ricoh for a number of home matches sitting right next to Anderson.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #25
AFCCOVENTRY said:
The Waggott departure
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Sounds like a shit movie.
 
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Godiva

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #26
shmmeee said:
Sounds like a shit movie.
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But much anticipated and highly rated
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #27
Godiva said:
It's not likely. They would have done a joint press conference.
But ok, that may be a slight PR hick-up - and we have seen a few of those from the club before.

If he left on his own accord and in full agreement with TF/SISU then he will certainly show up at the Ricoh for a number of home matches sitting right next to Anderson.
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Its pure speculation mate, don't really know what has happened, buts something has lol. As other have stated i dont think we will ever know the true story behind it.
 

bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #28
skybluetony176 said:
He'll have a contract. That will have to be settled.

Plus what OSB just said ^
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maybe on 3 months notice and laid until 31st December
 

mechaishida

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #29
Give it a few months and we'll be crying out for Waggot to come back, CT/Andy Turner/Alan Poople style.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2015
  • #30
AFCCOVENTRY said:
The Waggott departure is a bit of a mystery. Was he pushed or did he resign?
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Yep, it's certainly got tongues waggotting.
 
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