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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #176
Boosh said:
Godden has 4 already. Not scoring a headed goal as a striker is pretty poor even O’Hare has one. He could be let off if he scored goals with his feet but unfortunately they’re a rarity too.

There’s a weird cult that defend Max no matter what it’s strange. Shipley gets nowhere the amount of defence despite getting twice the grief and being twice the player of Max
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God your a dumb as him.

I think you will find Godden has 3 in the league.

Thays like me saying Ohare is shit as he's only scored one goal this season with either foot.

Our strikers over last 4 years score hardly any! Probably about 7 or 8 max in total.
 

lordy_87

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #177
Boosh said:
Godden has 4 already. Not scoring a headed goal as a striker is pretty poor even O’Hare has one. He could be let off if he scored goals with his feet but unfortunately they’re a rarity too.

There’s a weird cult that defend Max no matter what it’s strange. Shipley gets nowhere the amount of defence despite getting twice the grief and being twice the player of Max
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Max did score one against gillingham in the league cup tbf, also pretty sure his first goal for us in the JPT was headed. He should still do better though.
 
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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #178
Londonccfcfan said:
God your a dumb as him.

I think you will find Godden has 3 in the league.

Thays like me saying Ohare is shit as he's only scored one goal this season with either foot.

Our strikers over last 4 years score hardly any! Probably about 7 or 8 max in total.
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Godden got league headers against, Oxford, Rotherham, Tranmere and Qpr.

Biamou barely scores at all it’s not just headers. Headed goals are a clear weakness though
 
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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #179
lordy_87 said:
Max did score one against gillingham in the league cup tbf, also pretty sure his first goal for us in the JPT was headed. He should still do better though.
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Yeah we’re talking league though that’s what counts isn’t it. It’s not like it’s a small sample size he’s been here long enough
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #180
Boosh said:
Godden got league headers against, Oxford, Rotherham, Tranmere and Qpr.

Biamou barely score at all. Headed goals are a clear weakness.
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So how many have others got between

Hiwula,McNulty,Nazon, JCH. Baka , Chaplin? Add Godden and Walker.

like I said we scored over 4 years in about add the total of everyone it's single figures.

He makes a point like Biamou is so far behind in terms of headed goals.

Ffs get a grip . OUR STRIKERS HARDLY SCORE ANY HEADED GOALS. Add all those strikers goals lol.

What a dumb argument.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #181
Londonccfcfan said:
So how many have others got between

Hiwula,McNulty,Nazon, JCH. Baka , Chaplin? Add Godden and Walker.

like I said we scored over 4 years in about add the total of everyone it's single figures.

He makes a point like Biamou is so far behind in terms of headed goals.

Ffs get a grip . OUR STRIKERS HARDLY SCORE ANY HEADED GOALS. Add all those strikers goals lol.

What a dumb argument.
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Hiwula (played mostly as a winger) - 1
McNulty (one season) - 3
Nazon (half a season) - 0
Clarke Harris (basically one season) - 2
Bakayoko - 2
Chaplin (are we really comparing 5’7 Chaplin to 6’2 biamou / one season) - 2
Godden (basically one season) - 4
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #182
Adam Armstrong didn't score a single header and got 20 goals that season. Awful player.

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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #183
lordy_87 said:
Max did score one against gillingham in the league cup tbf, also pretty sure his first goal for us in the JPT was headed. He should still do better though.
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His first ever goal for us was a header in the FA Cup. But that don't count either.

He can't head it.

JCH, Hiwula, Baka, Chaplin, McNulty, Nazon, Jones, Walker a
Boosh said:
Hiwula (played mostly as a winger) - 1
McNulty (one season) - 3
Nazon (half a season) - 0
Clarke Harris (basically one season) - 2
Bakayoko - 2
Chaplin (are we really comparing 5’7 Chaplin to 6’2 biamou / one season) - 2
Godden (basically one season) - 4
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Lol.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #184
stupot07 said:
Adam Armstrong didn't score a single header and got 20 goals that season. Awful player.

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Got 20 goals though that’s the point.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #185
The guy was supposed to be 4th choice striker this season. If we are serious about actually progressing then there’s no room for being sentimental and double standards, because that’s all it is at this stage.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #186
Londonccfcfan said:
His first ever goal for us was a header in the FA Cup. But that don't count either.

He can't head it.

JCH, Hiwula, Baka, Chaplin, McNulty, Nazon, Jones, Walker a

Lol.
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So over a period of 4 years, all our strikers would have scored a fair share of headers. Super Max has 0.

Not trying to be arsey but what does Max bring to the team do you think?

Also just because we disagree doesn’t make me dumb.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #187
stupot07 said:
Adam Armstrong didn't score a single header and got 20 goals that season. Awful player.

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Sick Boy said:
The guy was supposed to be 4th choice striker this season. If we are serious about actually progressing then there’s no room for being sentimental and double standards, because that’s all it is at this stage.
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I think we have killed this argument.

It's not about sentiment. It's not his fault he's the best we got available at the moment. And by most accounts done a decent job.

No one's blinded by him or any of our other strikers.

I have said before we need a quality striker for this division next year as first choice.

Godden/walker as back up.

Max would be a good back up as 4th choice. This thread is about Biamou.

But it's ridiculous how he gets slated game after game.

We all know we have about 3/4 players only who are easily at this level consistently all day long and proven imo.

Max isn't one of them 4.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #188
stupot07 said:
Adam Armstrong didn't score a single header and got 20 goals that season. Awful player.

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he scored 20 goals - you are starting to sound rather silly
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #189
Boosh said:
So over a period of 4 years, all our strikers would have scored a fair share of headers. Super Max has 0.

Not trying to be arsey but what does Max bring to the team do you think?

Also just because we disagree doesn’t make me dumb.
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he brings a selfie
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #190
Grendel said:
he brings a selfie
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Mmmmmmm
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #191
Boosh said:
Hiwula (played mostly as a winger) - 1
McNulty (one season) - 3
Nazon (half a season) - 0
Clarke Harris (basically one season) - 2
Bakayoko - 2
Chaplin (are we really comparing 5’7 Chaplin to 6’2 biamou / one season) - 2
Godden (basically one season) - 4
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All also if course have played less games than biamou
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #192
Grendel said:
All also if course have played less games than biamou
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Of course if anything it proves our point.

I just want to understand what people see as his strengths as goal scoring of any kind isn’t it
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #193
Grendel said:
All also if course have played less games than biamou
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Have they all played less minutes than Biamou?

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Grendel

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #194
Boosh said:
Of course if anything it proves our point.

I just want to understand what people see as his strengths as goal scoring of any kind isn’t it
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he must hold the record in the history of the club to wear the number 9 shirt without a headed goal - it’s extraordinary the lengths people go to defend him
 
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procdoc

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #195
Grendel said:
he must hold the record in the history of the club to wear the number 9 shirt without a headed goal - it’s extraordinary the lengths people go to defend him
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I’m not Max’s biggest fan. However you seem to have an agenda against certain players, such as the ridiculous Matty James thread. I personally would not offer Max a new deal as I don’t particularly rate him as a centre forward. But when he’s on the pitch I still want him to do well because it benefits the team, same with other derided players such as Shipley and Allen
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #196
procdoc said:
I’m not Max’s biggest fan. However you seem to have an agenda against certain players, such as the ridiculous Matty James thread. I personally would not offer Max a new deal as I don’t particularly rate him as a centre forward. But when he’s on the pitch I still want him to do well because it benefits the team, same with other derided players such as Shipley and Allen
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Without speaking for him on the James issue, the point is that as good as James is, he may not be the player we need right now. If we were to go down, the signing screams of Ollie Norwood.

I would love Max to score in every game from now to the end of the season. I would love any player to. However, I want the players picked that have the best chance of doing so and that is not Max.
 
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procdoc

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #197
Boosh said:
Without speaking for him on the James issue, the point is that as good as James is, he may not be the player we need right now. If we were to go down, the signing screams of Ollie Norwood.

I would love Max to score in every game from now to the end of the season. I would love any player to. However, I want the players picked that have the best chance of doing so and that is not Max.
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Troy Deeney said Watford’s game plan centred around stopping James from playing. He got man of the match. He also captained the team and our midfield looks stronger with him in it. It’s fuck all like Ollie Norwood
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #198
procdoc said:
Troy Deeney said Watford’s game plan centred around stopping James from playing. He got man of the match. He also captained the team and our midfield looks stronger with him in it. It’s fuck all like Ollie Norwood
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Troy Deeney was the one tasked with dropping deep to pick him up as in the 4-4-2 no one would naturally do so. That’s the reason Deeney brought it up. Had they interviewed the left back I’m sure he wouldn’t have.

That might be the case but what I’m saying is, if we were to go down, results won’t have improved with James in the team and questions will rightfully be raised as to why the funds were not focussed elsewhere. Just like the Norwood signing. He was an improvement on our midfield but he was not the type of player we needed.

I hope that isn’t the case and James’ performances lead us to safety.
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #199
stupot07 said:
Adam Armstrong didn't score a single header and got 20 goals that season. Awful player.

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Least he smiled tho
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #200
Sick Boy said:
There’s been posts about wanting him to have your back in the trenches, it’s mind bending stuff.
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Well even ignoring his goalscoring record he's French so I don't get that at all.
 
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procdoc

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #201
Boosh said:
Troy Deeney was the one tasked with dropping deep to pick him up as in the 4-4-2 no one would naturally do so. That’s the reason Deeney brought it up. Had they interviewed the left back I’m sure he wouldn’t have.

That might be the case but what I’m saying is, if we were to go down, results won’t have improved with James in the team and questions will rightfully be raised as to why the funds were not focussed elsewhere. Just like the Norwood signing. He was an improvement on our midfield but he was not the type of player we needed.

I hope that isn’t the case and James’ performances lead us to safety.
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My point is a professional footballer who’s played lots of games in the top flight singled out a player who ‘flatters to be deceived’ . I trust his opinion and the opinion of our manager over a couple of know it all’s on an Internet forum
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #202
procdoc said:
My point is a professional footballer who’s played lots of games in the top flight singled out a player who ‘flatters to be deceived’ . I trust his opinion and the opinion of our manager over a couple of know it all’s on an Internet forum
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Why when someone raises a differing view they get called ‘dumb’ or a ‘know it all’?

I think flatter to deceive kind of sums it up. He looks great but ultimately results are the same we still struggle to score goals. James is a top player and if we stay up fantastic we won’t regret the signing.

If we were to go down, it’s likely that we would.
 
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procdoc

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #203
Boosh said:
Why when someone raises a differing view they get called ‘dumb’ or a ‘know it all’?

I think flatter to deceive kind of sums it up. He looks great but ultimately results are the same we still struggle to score goals. James is a top player and if we stay up fantastic we won’t regret the signing.

If we were to go down, it’s likely that we would.
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What centre forward would we have been able to sign to score the goals we are currently missing? Kelly is out for a while and recently Sheaf got injured. Had we not signed James our midfield would be significantly weaker as a result
 
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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #204
procdoc said:
What centre forward would we have been able to sign to score the goals we are currently missing? Kelly is out for a while and recently Sheaf got injured. Had we not signed James our midfield would be significantly weaker as a result
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Personally I wouldn’t have gone for a centre forward but that’s a different argument.

Yeah the Sheaf injury has meant James is needed for the next few weeks. I think you’re assuming I don’t agree with the James signing. I’m saying that if results decline, then questions will need to be asked. I think that’s what G is getting at
 
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procdoc

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #205
Boosh said:
Personally I wouldn’t have gone for a centre forward but that’s a different argument.

Yeah the Sheaf injury has meant James is needed for the next few weeks. I think you’re assuming I don’t agree with the James signing. I’m saying that if results decline, then questions will need to be asked. I think that’s what G is getting at
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I don’t see how signing a quality player that improves the team can be considered anything other than a positive. Would people rather we didn’t sign a quality player? I don’t get the rationale. I think the manager knows more about what is needed than Grendel does
 
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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #206
procdoc said:
I don’t see how signing a quality player that improves the team can be considered anything other than a positive. Would people rather we didn’t sign a quality player? I don’t get the rationale. I think the manager knows more about what is needed than Grendel does
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If the manager always knows best then there’s no point for this forum really. Everyone has different opinions managers get things right and wrong.

If results decline (as they have since he’s signed) then it won’t have improved the team will it. That’s exactly the point. We needed quality in other areas more urgently in my eyes. If we stay up then it won’t matter really, if we go down that’s where the issue will be
 
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procdoc

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #207
Boosh said:
If the manager always knows best then there’s no point for this forum really. Everyone has different opinions managers get things right and wrong.

If results decline (as they have since he’s signed) then it won’t have improved the team will it. That’s exactly the point. We needed quality in other areas more urgently in my eyes. If we stay up then it won’t matter really, if we go down that’s where the issue will be
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I respectfully disagree with you
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #208
procdoc said:
I’m not Max’s biggest fan. However you seem to have an agenda against certain players, such as the ridiculous Matty James thread. I personally would not offer Max a new deal as I don’t particularly rate him as a centre forward. But when he’s on the pitch I still want him to do well because it benefits the team, same with other derided players such as Shipley and Allen
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James is a good player that wasn’t my point
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #209
Boosh said:
Why when someone raises a differing view they get called ‘dumb’ or a ‘know it all’?

I think flatter to deceive kind of sums it up. He looks great but ultimately results are the same we still struggle to score goals. James is a top player and if we stay up fantastic we won’t regret the signing.

If we were to go down, it’s likely that we would.
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I have said I was going to title the thread Vigil In A Wilderness Of Mirrors but thought for the audience I needed to dumb it down
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #210
procdoc said:
I don’t see how signing a quality player that improves the team can be considered anything other than a positive. Would people rather we didn’t sign a quality player? I don’t get the rationale. I think the manager knows more about what is needed than Grendel does
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Guess he knew we needed Meyler
 
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