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Best 11 since return to the championship (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 3, 2025
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #36
Ccfcisparks said:
which keeper and CM are you putting in then
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Ayari was wank for us
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #37
Sky Blue Goblin said:
If playing a 4-3-3, would have to be

Dovin
MVE- Ostigard - Doyle - Materson
Hamer - Grimes - Sheaf
Sakamoto - Gyok - Wright

Harsh on Rudoni, Simms, EMC and O’Hare mind
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Ostigard was massively overrated
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #38
A lot of sentiment on this thread regarding certain loanees . Were Ostigard , Doyle and Maatsen really better than Thomas , Kitching and Bidwell?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #39
Shannerz said:
It's hard to imagine a less convincing rearguard than that.
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Though if you go on that one half against Forest Dacosta also makes the best 11!
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #40
-----------------Dovin---------------
MvE - Thomas - Kitching - Bidwell
----------------Grimes---_-----------
---------Sheaf ---------Hamer
----------------Rudoni-------
-----------Vik-------Wright-------
 

WestEndAgro

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #41
Shannerz said:
It's hard to imagine a less convincing rearguard than that.
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Think we could comfortably squeeze Dabo in there.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #42
Is it the best 11 as in your best players for each position? Or the best 11 that would work best in the formation you propose?

For example, no way would I leave Fadz out of any best centre backs since returning to the Championship but I wouldn't have him in a team playing our current formation.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #43
Perennial Lurker said:
-----------------Dovin---------------
MvE - Thomas - Kitching - Bidwell
----------------Grimes---_-----------
---------Sheaf ---------Hamer
----------------Rudoni-------
-----------Vik-------Wright-------
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Callum Doyle should be in there
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #44
Perennial Lurker said:
-----------------Dovin---------------
MvE - Thomas - Kitching - Bidwell
----------------Grimes---_-----------
---------Sheaf ---------Hamer
----------------Rudoni-------
-----------Vik-------Wright-------
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Probably 3 of them gets a regular start in the premiership
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #45
Grendel said:
Ostigard was massively overrated
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Agreed. Decent defensive ability but his use of the ball was genuinely appalling.
 

SomersetSB

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  • Mar 3, 2025
  • #46
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Agreed. Decent defensive ability but his use of the ball was genuinely appalling.
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That massive goal at Rotherham will always be a highlight from him!!
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #47
-------------------------- Westwood----------------------
Mve--- Scott Dann---Callum Doyle, DannyFox
-----------------------Dennis Wise--------------------
---‐----- Gustavo Hamer - Ben Sheaf----------
--------------------David Thompson----------------
----------- Marlon King---------Gyokeres----------
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #48
For me its this:

GK - Oliver Dovin
RB - Milan van Ewijk
CB - Leo Ostigard
CB - Callum Doyle
LB - Ian Maatsen
CDM - Matt Grimes
CM - Gustavo Hamer
CM - Jack Rudoni
RW - Tatsuhiro Sakamoto
ST - Viktor Gyokeres
LW - Haji Wright

Bench:
Ben Wilson, Kyle McFadzean, Jake Bidwell, Brook Norton-Cuffy, Ben Sheaf, Matty James, Callum O’hare, Ephron Mason-Clarke, Ellis Simms
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #49
JoeCCFCPUSB said:
-------------------------- Westwood----------------------
Mve--- Scott Dann---Callum Doyle, DannyFox
-----------------------Dennis Wise--------------------
---‐----- Gustavo Hamer - Ben Sheaf----------
--------------------David Thompson----------------
----------- Marlon King---------Gyokeres----------
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Someone hasn't read the opening post
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #50
Ccfcisparks said:
Callum Doyle should be in there
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Not in a back four I wouldn't have him over Kitching .
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #51
Perennial Lurker said:
A lot of sentiment on this thread regarding certain loanees . Were Ostigard , Doyle and Maatsen really better than Thomas , Kitching and Bidwell?
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Yes.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #52
Chicken Mcgraw said:
I felt harsh putting Pask in as he was never meant to be a first team player at this level but there isn’t really any other centre halves I could think of.
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Clark-Salter?
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #53
robbiethemole said:
Clark-Salter?
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Potentially, he was alright though. Much better than the rest of the team anyway
 
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Monty

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #54
This is not straightforward is it.
So based on 433.
GK Dovin
RB MVE
LB Maatsen
CB Doyle
CB this one was more tricky Thomas
DM Grimes
CM Hamer
CM Rudoni
RF not that many options therefore Sakamoto
CF Gyokeres
LF Wright

Subs Sheaf, EMC, OHare, Simms, Ostigaard, James, McFadzean, Bidwell, and to be honest any of the keepers
 

torchomatic

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #55
Ccfcisparks said:
Moore
Kane Pask Drysdale Da Costa
Jobello Hillsner Kelly Palmer
Maguire Biamou
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No Sheaf?
 
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rob9872

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #56
robbiethemole said:
Clark-Salter?
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I thought JCS was excellent and I'd have been close to putting him in the genuine rather than spoof 11 if he wasn't made of glass.
 
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rob9872

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #57
Grendel said:
Ostigard was massively overrated
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He really wasn't overrated. I said back then I'd sign him in a heartbeat and not at all surprised he's gone on to do well. In fact at the time I'd have probably preferred him to become permanent over Vik if we had the choice. Imo He's Bobby Thoms+passing.

Shows what a terrific model Brighton have. Not only the team they have and the stars they've sold, but those like Gyokeres and Ostigaard too. I always thought Ayari would be a player too, just too soon at the level for us to have been thrust in and could've done with a L1 loan first to get some minutes in.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #58
rob9872 said:
He really wasn't overrated. I said back then I'd sign him in a heartbeat and not at all surprised he's gone on to do well. In fact at the time I'd have probably preferred him to become permanent over Vik if we had the choice. Imo He's Bobby Thoms+passing.

Shows what a terrific model Brighton have. Not only the team they have and the stars they've sold, but those like Gyokeres and Ostigaard too. I always thought Ayari would be a player too, just too soon at the level for us to have been thrust in and could've done with a L1 loan first to get some minutes in.
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He’s been loaned to a struggling club in the German top division. Hes made more appearances for us than any other team so far.
 

AOM

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #59
TomRad85 said:
Dovin is a huge upgrade on Wilson, Collins and Moore, really really huge. I quite liked Marosi until he got wiped out but other than that it's been an absolute dog of a position for us for God knows how long.
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Yeah I always liked Marosi too. He looked okay when we played Shrewsbury in a pre-season at the start of last season as well.

Thought Moore was one of our better keepers too until he had to take time out of the team, and then that seemed to have been it for his career here.
I still would have preferred him to Wilson or Collins earlier on this year though!
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #60
rob9872 said:
He really wasn't overrated. I said back then I'd sign him in a heartbeat and not at all surprised he's gone on to do well. In fact at the time I'd have probably preferred him to become permanent over Vik if we had the choice. Imo He's Bobby Thoms+passing.

Shows what a terrific model Brighton have. Not only the team they have and the stars they've sold, but those like Gyokeres and Ostigaard too. I always thought Ayari would be a player too, just too soon at the level for us to have been thrust in and could've done with a L1 loan first to get some minutes in.
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I don’t remember him as a great passer of the ball, was a beast in the air though. Definitely the most aerially dominant cb we’ve had since we came back up.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #61
Grendel said:
He’s been loaned to a struggling club in the German top division.
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Doesn't mean he was cr&p for us tbf.

Marc McNulty is now, at the age of 32, playing in one of the 2nd tier leagues in Australia. He was great for us.

Your response doesn't really stack up. Ostigard is still a Norwegian international as well.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #62
Skyblueweeman said:
Doesn't mean he was cr&p for us tbf.

Marc McNulty is now, at the age of 32, playing in one of the 2nd tier leagues in Australia. He was great for us.

Your response doesn't really stack up. Ostigard is still a Norwegian international as well.
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I don't think he was over-rated for us at all; he was in a team whose remit was to stay in the division. He's also playing at a higher level than any other centre-half we've had in the period, which probably tells you something.

His career trajectory is strange, though; since us, other than Napoli, he's not lasted anywhere more than half a season. Maybe coincidence, maybe not.
 
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Domo

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #63
Can you really say that Grimes gets a place after 5 games?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #64
Shannerz said:
I don't think he was over-rated for us at all; he was in a team whose remit was to stay in the division. He's also playing at a higher level than any other centre-half we've had in the period, which probably tells you something.

His career trajectory is strange, though; since us, other than Napoli, he's not lasted anywhere more than half a season. Maybe coincidence, maybe not.
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He was frustrating at times. His ability on the ball was poor and his heading from memory was borderline comical as the ball would often go in every direction other than the one intended.

Overall he was solid though. Fair play to him he's had a decent career since moving away from Brighton.

Funnily enough the one loan in recent years I thought was grossly overrated was Maatsen. Decent enough, and clearly had a lot of potential, but he flattered to deceive quite often. Again, another one that's had a great career since though.
 

Shannerz

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #65
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
He was frustrating at times. His ability on the ball was poor and his heading from memory was borderline comical as the ball would often go in every direction other than the one intended.
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This is absolutely true. He should have had a hatful of goals.
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #66
Perennial Lurker said:
Someone hasn't read the opening post
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oh shit you're right tbf. But that is a class team tho, David Thonpson was a class player for us, as was Marlon King.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #67
What about the best combined 11 of players we’ve played against that could be an interesting one

GK - Alex Palmer
RB - Djed Spence
CB - Darragh Lenihan
CB - Tom Lockyer
LB - Antonee Robinson
CDM - Matt Grimes
CM - Gabriel Sara
CM - Michael Olise
RW - Nathan Tella
ST - Alexander Mitrovic
LW - Crysencio Summerville
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #68
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
What about the best combined 11 of players we’ve played against that could be an interesting one

GK - Alex Palmer
RB - Djed Spence
CB - Darragh Lenihan
CB - Tom Lockyer
LB - Antonee Robinson
CDM - Matt Grimes
CM - Gabriel Sara
CM - Michael Olise
RW - Nathan Tella
ST - Alexander Mitrovic
LW - Crysencio Summerville
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I still remember when we played Blades back in the play off season at the CBS, Iliman Ndiaye is one of the best players I've ever seen up there
 
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Matt smith

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  • Mar 4, 2025
  • #69
Saddlebrains said:
I still remember when we played Blades back in the play off season at the CBS, Iliman Ndiaye is one of the best players I've ever seen up there
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Remember that game we won 1-0 but he ran the show
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • Mar 5, 2025
  • #70
-----------------------Dovin-------------------
--------Mcnally---Fadz---Doyle------------
Mve-------Hamer----Sheaf-------Bidwell
----------------------Rudoni-----------------------
-----------Gyokeres-------Wright------------
 
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