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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 20, 2022
  • #141
Adge said:
But not Reece Charles Cook though.
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How did you see the potential red card boss! My lad has his kit and is starting next week first game
 

Adge

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #142
Sky Blue Pete said:
How did you see the potential red card boss! My lad has his kit and is starting next week first game
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The Dabo one?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #143
Adge said:
The Dabo one?
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Yeah my lad changed his mind on the highlights and possibly yellow the right call as foot not raised I still think excessive force
 

rob9872

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #144
 

ccfctommy

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #145
His kicking is terrible but he is getting better every game. Becoming safe hands for us.
 

CDK

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #146
Just needed the chance and now taking it.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #147
Not a criticism of him, but I actually don't think he's had a (proper) save to make in about 3 games.
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #148
Record breaking run of clean sheets.

Great stuff Ben!!!
 

Hutch11

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #149
He's magic you know...
 

larry_david

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #150
Hutch11 said:
He's magic you know...
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So was Simon moore
 
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Hutch11

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #151
larry_david said:
So was Simon moore
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Until he wasn't
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #152
Bad bad mistakes by other championship keepers today. Rotherham and Sunderland keepers especially
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #153
Sky Blue Pete said:
Bad bad mistakes by other championship keepers today. Rotherham and Sunderland keepers especially
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Rotherham keeper was pretty impressive in midweek mind.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #154
It helps when you are playing in front of a confident back 5
 

SBAndy

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #155
bawtryneal said:
It helps when you are playing in front of a confident back 5
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That’s one of the things that makes people so nervous about him. He should be BEHIND the back 5!
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #156
fatso said:
Record breaking run of clean sheets.

Great stuff Ben!!!
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Considerable amount of luck though don’t you think, that one that hit the crossbar at the weekend he was nowhere to be seen

There’s been quite a few that have hit the post or bar on this run of clean sheets


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Hutch11

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #157
No goalie would've got near the header that hit the bar , he's been very reassuring between the sticks in this run
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #158
Is he marshalling the defence well? Or is it mainly down to Fadz?
 

Adge

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #159
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yeah my lad changed his mind on the highlights and possibly yellow the right call as foot not raised I still think excessive force
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If it was my game he would have been sent off-2 yellow cards for the 2 separate challenges. In my opinion as bad as he was, the Referee (Keith Stroud) got the 2nd Dabo one wrong (went unpunished but should have been a yellow for reckless play) although it went in our favour. Robins realised and was sensible as he knew 1 more challenge by Dabo and we would have been down to 10 for the rest of the game.
 

Frostie

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #160
PVA said:
Not a criticism of him, but I actually don't think he's had a (proper) save to make in about 3 games.
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Combined xG of all Shots on Target in the last 3 games is 0.36.

I can't be bothered to crunch the numbers right now but I'd bet he's just about the best protected keeper in the league.
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #161
Skybluedownunder said:
Considerable amount of luck though don’t you think, that one that hit the crossbar at the weekend he was nowhere to be seen

There’s been quite a few that have hit the post or bar on this run of clean sheets


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He guided those shots onto the woodwork by using his mental powers, the guy is a goalkeeping god
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #162
The stats don’t lie and on paper he’s doing very well. At this point is not just the poor form of Moore, Wilson deserves the spot.

Granted, he hasn’t had loads to do but when called upon he’s done what’s needed. He’s also clearly growing in confidence.

What can’t be argued is his ability to wind up the opposition, including time wasting. At some point he’ll revert back to #2, but for now he’s doing a good job.
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #163
Frostie said:
Combined xG of all Shots on Target in the last 3 games is 0.36.
I can't be bothered to crunch the numbers right now but I'd bet he's just about the best protected keeper in the league.
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That's a fair point.
I know why Moore is currently out...he had a mare at the start of the season and was rightly replaced, but imho, i think Moore would also have kept those same clean sheets were he playing.
As you say, Wilson has been protected magnificently by our back 5.
Kudos to Fadz (Immense), Panzo and Rose (improving), Dabo (getting back to his best), and Bidwell (almost unbelievably POS so far)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #164
Frostie said:
Combined xG of all Shots on Target in the last 3 games is 0.36.

I can't be bothered to crunch the numbers right now but I'd bet he's just about the best protected keeper in the league.
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What was Moore’s in his 3 games?
 

larry_david

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #165
Danceswithhorses said:
That's a fair point.
I know why Moore is currently out...he had a mare at the start of the season and was rightly replaced, but imho, i think Moore would also have kept those same clean sheets were he playing.
As you say, Wilson has been protected magnificently by our back 5.
Kudos to Fadz (Immense), Panzo and Rose (improving), Dabo (getting back to his best), and Bidwell (almost unbelievably POS so far)
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Moore came 17 yards out of his goal to claim a ball he had no right to claim.

He dropped a simple cross at Hull at the feet of the striker.

Wilson hasn't done these things yet, defence solid or not, when he's been called upon to deal with the ball he has done so.
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 23, 2022
  • #166
Some of you miserable sods could fall in a bucket of tits and come up sucking your thumb.
 
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pipkin73

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #167
rob9872 said:
Some of you miserable sods could fall in a bucket of tits and come up sucking your thumb.
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Better their Thumb than their C
 

Frostie

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #168
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What was Moore’s in his 3 games?
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Good question.

Wilson (last 3)
6 shots on target against
Combined xGA = 0.35
Goals conceded= 0

Moore (first 3)
15 shots on target against
Combined xGA = 3.87
Goals conceded = 7
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #169
Frostie said:
Good question.

Wilson (last 3)
6 shots on target against
Combined xGA = 0.35
Goals conceded= 0

Moore (first 3)
15 shots on target against
Combined xGA = 3.87
Goals conceded = 7
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That’s interesting
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #170
Frostie said:
Good question.

Wilson (last 3)
6 shots on target against
Combined xGA = 0.35
Goals conceded= 0

Moore (first 3)
15 shots on target against
Combined xGA = 3.87
Goals conceded = 7
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Did anyone hit the bar or post in those games for Moore? Only some are finding it so hard to begrudgingly say Wilson keeps the shirt that he's criticised for ones that nearly went in or saying the defence in front is the reason and yet weren't blamed the other way round. Poor sod having some luck,. I've seen other stats with 2nd highest save % and also 2nd on clean sheets. As always stats can lead opinions how you want them to.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #171
Frostie said:
Good question.

Wilson (last 3)
6 shots on target against
Combined xGA = 0.35
Goals conceded= 0

Moore (first 3)
15 shots on target against
Combined xGA = 3.87
Goals conceded = 7
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So Wilson is still statistically worth his place. Moore has conceded 3 more than he was supposed to whilst Wilson basically just hasn’t put a step wrong
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #172
larry_david said:
Moore came 17 yards out of his goal to claim a ball he had no right to claim.
He dropped a simple cross at Hull at the feet of the striker.
Wilson hasn't done these things yet, defence solid or not, when he's been called upon to deal with the ball he has done so.
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They say opinion is divisive.
I agree with that, you probably don't
 

Astute

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #173
Skybluedownunder said:
Considerable amount of luck though don’t you think, that one that hit the crossbar at the weekend he was nowhere to be seen

There’s been quite a few that have hit the post or bar on this run of clean sheets


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So Wilson is shit because a few shots coming at him are off target?
 

Frostie

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #174
rob9872 said:
Did anyone hit the bar or post in those games for Moore? Only some are finding it so hard to begrudgingly say Wilson keeps the shirt that he's criticised for ones that nearly went in or saying the defence in front is the reason and yet weren't blamed the other way round. Poor sod having some luck,. I've seen other stats with 2nd highest save % and also 2nd on clean sheets. As always stats can lead opinions how you want them to.
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No woodwork hits in Moore's games.
3 in last 3 for Wilson, 4 in total.

I don't think anyone doubts Wilson deserves the shirt do they? Just that he hasn't suddenly become Lev Yashin overnight either.
As mentioned before, Clean Sheets & Save % should never be used to judge a goalkeeper on.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #175
GKs not judged by clean sheets!!!!… I mean Wow. Surely that’s the only thing that matters as a keeper.
 
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