Ben Wilson (4 Viewers)

Grendel · Jan 20, 2023

Sick Boy said:
He was signed as a Championship player and would likely need us to pay a percentage of his wages - it's just wasting money.

Why would top 6 L1 clubs swap their keeper for a more expensive option?

Sick Boy · Jan 20, 2023

Grendel said:
Why would top 6 L1 clubs swap their keeper for a more expensive option?

At this stage he'd be considered somewhat of a risky signing as well; he's more likely to be of interest to a mid-table League 1 club, so he's most likely to just see out his contract here with Wilson as number 1.

PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Grendel said:
Why would top 6 L1 clubs swap their keeper for a more expensive option?

Erm. If they thought he was better?

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jan 20, 2023

Just saying - not only does Wilson have the best clean sheet record in the league his shots saved % is up there aswell

Skybluedownunder · Jan 20, 2023

MalcSB said:
Only Burnley and Sheffield United have conceded less goals than us so far this season. The problem is nearly everyone has scored more.

It’s got nothing to do with that he’s shit. In the games he’s kept clean sheets he’s often had nothing to do in them

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Grendel · Jan 20, 2023

PVA said:
Erm. If they thought he was better?

on that basis he’d be sold now wouldn’t he? His wages will be far higher

PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Grendel said:
on that basis he’d be sold now wouldn’t he? His wages will be far higher

No because we don't have a backup keeper.

I'm almost certain he'll move on in the summer

Grendel · Jan 20, 2023

PVA said:
No because we don't have a backup keeper.

I'm almost certain he'll move on in the summer

its a bizarre argument - surely as robins considers Wilson number 1 league 1 clubs would target him as he’s cheaper and not on contract? Why would they sign out reserve whose on more money

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jan 20, 2023

I suspect it's just the timing of this. If we had signed a few other players of genuine quality, and then got ourselves a new number 1 (with Moore moving on), I don't think anyone would be being anywhere near as harsh.

I wouldn't want him as our out and out number 1, but as a backup goalie he's absolutely fine, and he should be given some credit by the fans.

With the wages, I think people need to remember that even if his salary is perceived as 'low', that still adds up when you've already got 7 or 8 that are wasting budget - and that is the case for us. I just hope the club have some better tricks up their sleeves in time to come as our recruitment and contract policy has been a bit bizarre for a while, putting it politely. I do hope in this scenario, that we are seeing a new number 1 come summer.

Skybluedownunder · Jan 20, 2023

Why such a long contract!! Got him for fucking ages now

This summer was meant to be dead wood clearout and now we’ve got this wanker for 2 and a half more years

Why with him and Eccles we not doing 1 + 1 in our favour depending how things go

Imagine we get promoted and got all these gooses still with us who don’t cut the mustard

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PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Grendel said:
its a bizarre argument - surely as robins considers Wilson number 1 league 1 clubs would target him as he’s cheaper and not on contract? Why would they sign out reserve whose on more money

Because he's (currently) number one so we wouldn't want to sell. We'd be more likely to sell our number 2.

It's not a difficult concept.

Sick Boy · Jan 20, 2023

PVA said:
Because he's (currently) number one so we wouldn't want to sell. We'd be more likely to sell our number 2.

It's not a difficult concept.

If a club came in for an offer for either of them, the club would snap their hand off.
We've got next to no chance of selling Moore - the best we could hope for is paying a % of his wages next season.

Grendel · Jan 20, 2023

Sick Boy said:
If a club came in for an offer for either of them, the club would snap their hand off.
We've got next to go chance of selling Moore - the best we could hope for is paying a % of his wages next season.

PVA really rates Moore

SBT · Jan 20, 2023

Grendel said:
Whats hi s worth in the transfer market?

Any fee would have to be small - so, £400,000?

thekidfromstrettoncamp · Jan 20, 2023

I keep seeing people on here praising MR .This is the same man who has put he faith in Wilson a goalkeeper who has been part of a defence that has conceded less goals than any one except the top 2. I suggest the other end of the field the problems are putting the ball in the net.I'll put me tin hat on now

PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Sick Boy said:
If a club came in for an offer for either of them, the club would snap their hand off.
We've got next to no chance of selling Moore - the best we could hope for is paying a % of his wages next season.

Having just signed a contract no one is going to buy Wilson but we'd be able to offload Moore in the summer, even on a free.

PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Grendel said:
PVA really rates Moore

I did. But he's been absolutely abysmal this season and shouldn't be anywhere near the number 1 shirt.

Sick Boy · Jan 20, 2023

PVA said:
Having just signed a contract no one is going to buy Wilson but we'd be able to offload Moore in the summer, even on a free.

Yeah....if we continue to pay a percentage of his wages.

PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Yeah....if we continue to pay a percentage of his wages.

How can you possibly know that? Total conjecture.

Deleted member 5849 · Jan 20, 2023

PVA said:
How can you possibly know that? Total conjecture.

So is suggesting we'd be able to offload him in the summer tbf

Sick Boy · Jan 20, 2023

PVA said:
How can you possibly know that? Total conjecture.

Yeah, because he's going to agree to voluntarily take a wage cut to play in a lower division.

PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Yeah, because he's going to agree to voluntarily take a wage cut to play in a lower division.

Yeah, because no player has ever taken a paycut for first team football.

Fuck me.

Sick Boy · Jan 20, 2023

PVA said:
Yeah, because no player has ever taken a paycut for first team football.

Fuck me.

Haha, talk about naive.

PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Haha, talk about naive.

You've never heard of a single player taking a paycut for first team football then? Cool.

You're generally a sound poster but I think you're so blinded by your Wilson hate you've spoken some real nonsense on the keeping situation this season.

Frostie · Jan 20, 2023

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Just saying - not only does Wilson have the best clean sheet record in the league his shots saved % is up there aswell

Most unreliable stats going to judge a goalkeeper on, or probably in the whole of football tbh. Doesn't take into account quantity or quality of shots faced.

Sick Boy · Jan 20, 2023

PVA said:
You've never heard of a single player taking a paycut for first team football then? Cool.

You're generally a sound poster but I think you're so blinded by your Wilson hate you've spoken some real nonsense on the keeping situation this season.

Of course some players take pay cuts but a lot of the time it involves coming to an agreement with their former club over the difference in wages - it's not like they just agree to get paid less.

I don't hate any of our players or former players - I want the best for the club and for us to actually progress. Neither of the keepers should be retained as they're nowhere near good enough.

Grendel · Jan 20, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Of course some players take pay cuts but a lot of the time it involves coming to an agreement with their former club over the difference in wages - it's not like they just agree to get paid less.

I don't hate any of our players or former players - I want the best for the club and for us to actually progress. Neither of the keepers should be retained as they're nowhere near good enough.

Moore never wanted a move when a premiership understudy for a pay cut - it’s just baseless nonsense

Grendel · Jan 20, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Of course some players take pay cuts but a lot of the time it involves coming to an agreement with their former club over the difference in wages - it's not like they just agree to get paid less.

I don't hate any of our players or former players - I want the best for the club and for us to actually progress. Neither of the keepers should be retained as they're nowhere near good enough.

kane took a pay cut to play there is zero chance Moore will

PVA · Jan 20, 2023

Grendel said:
Moore never wanted a move when a premiership understudy for a pay cut - it’s just baseless nonsense

How do you know?

It really is incredible how you seem to know exactly what every player, manager and chairman in football was thinking at any point in history.

Quite the talent.

shepardo01 · Jan 20, 2023

Frostie said:
Most unreliable stats going to judge a goalkeeper on, or probably in the whole of football tbh. Doesn't take into account quantity or quality of shots faced.

Yep... also remember Reice Charles- Cook breaking the clubs clean sheet record... he was horrendous....

ccfc922 · Jan 20, 2023

Grendel said:
Who will sign Moore? Wilson is number 1

Assumed Moores contract ends this summer? How longs he contracted for?

ccfc922 · Jan 20, 2023

alexccfc99 said:
Moore is still under contract next season - But judging by the type of character he is I can see him agreeing to tear his contract up early to go and pay

Ohh, Assumed his ended this season.

rexo87 · Jan 21, 2023

Simple - number 2 keeper? Fine, number 1 keeper? Not fine

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jan 21, 2023

Frostie said:
Most unreliable stats going to judge a goalkeeper on, or probably in the whole of football tbh. Doesn't take into account quantity or quality of shots faced.

Was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment. I think we need a better keeper, but in general given our defensive record, I don’t think keeper is the worst of our problems

Terry Gibson's perm · Jan 21, 2023

If you knew Moore was definitely off in the summer it’s maybe ok but we could be stuck with him and Wilson when we really need a decent number one

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