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Esoterica

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #211
One big part of Allen's 'purple patch' that doesn't seem to have been mentioned, is the return to the box and not having to play a lone AM role behind two strikers. That's no coincidence.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #212
Deleted member 9744 said:
Yes but that is running about. He is good at it but not a lot else.
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Show me a good footballer who doesn't run around a lot
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #213
clint van damme said:
You watch the positions he takes between the lines, they're decent.
As for the Shipley thing, if he wasn't taking up the positions in the press Robins wanted him to he wouldn't be in the team.
How do people not realise this about Robins?
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As Evo said, made captain last game too.

And Robins has also publicly praised his technical ability... unless you think being a good technician was praise because he fixed the manager's boiler one day!

And betterdays made a point of saying how much Viveash rated Allen, and was on at Robins to play him more the first season we got promoted.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #214
fernandopartridge said:
Show me a good footballer who doesn't run around a lot
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Messi
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #215
Esoterica said:
One big part of Allen's 'purple patch' that doesn't seem to have been mentioned, is the return to the box and not having to play a lone AM role behind two strikers. That's no coincidence.
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Errm

Deleted member 5849 said:
Fair, and all the more frustrating when he's one of the few who can bridge the gap between midfield and attack, and run beyond the forwards. That being said, this season he's been better at that - maybe the system / Palmer suit him more?
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I mean, it was implied not explicit, but...
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #216
Deleted member 9744 said:
Messi
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Haha , fair but what an example to use
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #217
Deleted member 5849 said:
As Evo said, made captain last game too.

And Robins has also publicly praised his technical ability... unless you think being a good technician was praise because he fixed the manager's boiler one day!

And betterdays made a point of saying how much Viveash rated Allen, and was on at Robins to play him more the first season we got promoted.
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Robins and Adi must real rate lots of running!!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #218
Deleted member 9744 said:
Messi
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Deleted member 5849 said:
I mean, nobody is saying he's Messi!
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Esoterica

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #219
Deleted member 5849 said:
As Evo said, made captain last game too.
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Robins addressed that in his post match interview. Captain's Armband had shrunk in the wash and they didn't have time to buy a new one, so he was the only one it would fit.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #220
Deleted member 5849 said:
Errm



I mean, it was implied not explicit, but...
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Your wisdom is too Northern for me out here in the East!
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #221
clint van damme said:
Robins and Adi must real rate lots of running!!
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Signing mo farah in Jan
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #222
Esoterica said:
Your wisdom is too Northern for me out here in the East!
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I'd also make a punt (and we'll see if we ever get the chance to compare long term!) that Allen will look better playing alongside Palmer than playing alongside O'Hare.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #223
Evo1883 said:
Haha , fair but what an example to use
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Well it was to illustrate the point.

Running is just one element of the game. You need players who do it, so Allen has been useful for us this season and last.

Plenty of players don't rely on running a lot. Dion Dublin for example wouldn't have covered the distance that Allen does but he was a better player.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #224
Deleted member 9744 said:
Well it was to illustrate the point.

Running is just one element of the game. You need players who do it, so Allen has been useful for us this season and last.

Plenty of players don't rely on running a lot. Dion Dublin for example wouldn't have covered the distance that Allen does but he was a better player.
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He won more in the air as well.
 

Esoterica

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #225
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd also make a punt (and we'll see if we ever get the chance to compare long term!) that Allen will look better playing alongside Palmer than playing alongside O'Hare.
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Sometimes certain combos of players just click though and I do think the Great Dane (/Swede) with his two Chihuahuas either side of him can cause a lot of teams problems, especially if we are set up to counter attack.

The cock and balls formation I've called it.

 
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Cata

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #226
Deleted member 9744 said:
You wouldn't expect him to do so as often as Palmer and O'Hare but he should be contributing more than he does. Yes he is a defensive midfielder but I think he has only scored in one game for us? And how many assists has he had.

I rate him but this season until last week he has been poor, even defensively. His lack of pace is also a serious weakness which is why I don't think he will ever play at a higher level.
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4 assists
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #227
Cata said:
4 assists
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5 I think, Allen’s got 3 in his whole championship career and he’s an AM
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #228
Allen on the bench
 

Bounce Back

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #229
Evo1883 said:
Allen on the bench
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His turn for a rest
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #230
Evo1883 said:
Allen on the bench
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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #231
Evo1883 said:
Allen on the bench
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Robins has been listening to Shmmeee and me!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #232
Evo1883 said:
Allen on the bench
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Shmmeee just atm


 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #233
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #234
I’m gonna look pretty silly if we lose tonight.

Ah well, wouldn’t be the first time.
 
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fatso

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #235
If we don't get 3 points tonight it's all down to MR not starting with Allen!
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #236
shmmeee said:
I’m gonna look pretty silly if we lose tonight.

Ah well, wouldn’t be the first time.
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Why ? We should beat these with or without Allen playing , that on the pitch tonight is our strongest midfield on paper
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #237
Evo1883 said:
Why ? We should beat these with or without Allen playing , that on the pitch tonight is our strongest midfield on paper
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they’ve lost 5 out of 6 haven’t they? They will be well down on confidence
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #238
Only just caught up with this thread. Can't believe anyone could think sheaf isn't in our full first choice 11 in the box, even if slightly off form.

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Blind-Faith

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #239
Absolutely class again tonight, always seems to have an extra second on the ball than other players. Sign of a great player.

with regular game time he appears to have cut that lapse in concentration he was prone too when he first started getting into the side. One of the first names on the team sheet for me along with Mcfadz + Hamer + Vik
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #240
Another yellow, is he available for Saturday, he can't be far off a ban as he seems to be getting a card a game
 

Frostie

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #241
Gynnsthetonic said:
Another yellow, is he available for Saturday, he can't be far off a ban as he seems to be getting a card a game
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He's already had the ban
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #242
I love the way his balls out to the wing backs curl round and set them up for the forward run.

It's such a simple thing but he seems to be the only one properly bending it round the midfielder and giving it to them facing the goal, everybody else plays it to feet.
 
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rexo87

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  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #243
Liquid Gold said:
I love the way his balls out to the wing backs curl round and set them up for the forward run.

It's such a simple thing but he seems to be the only one properly bending it round the midfielder and giving it to them facing the goal, everybody else plays it to feet.
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Yeah it's just a shame our wing backs have no idea what to do with it

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stupot07

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  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #244
Liquid Gold said:
I love the way his balls out to the wing backs curl round

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Londonccfcfan

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  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #245
fernandopartridge said:
Show me a good footballer who doesn't run around a lot
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I can think of plenty in the past.

Jan Molby..never moved out of the centre circle. In that team he never needed to.
 
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