Fair, and all the more frustrating when he's one of the few who can bridge the gap between midfield and attack, and run beyond the forwards. That being said, this season he's been better at that - maybe the system / Palmer suit him more?My biggest gripe with Allen is he constantly turns his back on the opposition goal when receiving the ball in good positions.
Never said he was one of the clubs best players tbf .. I said he's worthy of his place and his performances have been good .. he's certainly good enough to be a championship squad player no doubt
The Robins wanted him gone argument disproves your point because Robins now plays him every game so are you saying Robins is now wrong?
Yeah totally. Handy backup for the first team. Nice and cheap and will do a job. But we’ve got people here who want to drop Sheaf or Palmer for him and that’s nuts.
Im saying we’ve had injury and suspicion issues in midfield and attack. With a fully fit squad he’s not in the starting XI.
You know what I want is the right balance that gets results , couldn't give a shit who starts if we get results .. full stop
I'll say it again. This season, you would say Allen has been more effective than Sheaf. The only thing that keeps Sheaf in the team ahead of Allen on season's form is the need to change style / system if swapping them out.You know what I want is the right balance that gets results , couldn't give a shit who starts if we get results .. full stop
I agree, see my last post.
But this all he does is run around a lot line is bollocks, he contributes more than that.
Think he won a lot of respect for the I'll show him attitude he came back with after our first season up.Robins made him captain against Blackburn too which people aren't mentioning , he clearly has a massive amount of respect and trust for Jamie allen these days
What does he contribute because literally every time I’ve asked this I’ve been given some variation on “runs around a lot” other than “he scored a tap in last game” but overall his goals and assists levels are poor for us.
The other thing I would mention is that he clearly plays to instructions well .. you could argue he's doing exactly what Robins wants from him
Yeah I’m sure. He works hard and he keeps his shape. I’ve never denied that. I just like midfielders who can actually do something that involves a football. Otherwise we may as well have a team of West End actors who also work hard and take direction well.
I think that's very harsh mate but it is what it is
What does he contribute because literally every time I’ve asked this I’ve been given some variation on “runs around a lot” other than “he scored a tap in last game” but overall his goals and assists levels are poor for us.
OK, I’ll rephrase.
After meeting the very basic requirements of actually turning up, give me a classy but lazy fucker.
What does he contribute because literally every time I’ve asked this I’ve been given some variation on “runs around a lot” other than “he scored a tap in last game” but overall his goals and assists levels are poor for us.
Thing is, his technical ability is really not all that bad anyway!Running around a lot is an underrated contribution by a lot of people on here.
I do agree he's missing that nice first touch that COH, Sheaf, Hamer have but he's in the team for his engine.
Just personal preference isn’t it at the end of the day. Give me a classy but lazy fucker every day over an ineffective hard worker.
Running around a lot is an underrated contribution by a lot of people on here.
I do agree he's missing that nice first touch that COH, Sheaf, Hamer have but he's in the team for his engine.
Thing is, his technical ability is really not all that bad anyway!
Allen doesn't just run around a lot, he makes good intelligent runs into space. The goal Saturday was a direct result of that running.
Shouldn’t he do something with that engine though? His positioning is generally poor and he’s played past easily, and he rarely wins the ball back and most of the time when he gets into good positions he fluffs his lines (last two games excepted though he did it a couple of times there as well).
Allen doesn't just run around a lot, he makes good intelligent runs into space. The goal Saturday was a direct result of that running.
Shouldn’t he do something with that engine though? His positioning is generally poor and he’s played past easily, and he rarely wins the ball back and most of the time when he gets into good positions he fluffs his lines (last two games excepted though he did it a couple of times there as well).
Yes but that is running about. He is good at it but not a lot else.Allen doesn't just run around a lot, he makes good intelligent runs into space. The goal Saturday was a direct result of that running.
His job is to ghost past the forward line and arrive in the penalty area, rather than be the one doing the driving forward - Martin Peters-lite. It's partly why Allen looks better when the team's playing better - they actually get him the ball now and again! It's also partly why he's looked better since our first season back - I actually didn't think he was bad *that* season either, but there were often times he was making space and people were unable to get him the ball. And he's never able to pick the game up by the scruff of the neck, although really only Hamer can do that in our current midfield (and Kelly, in different ways, but we'll probably never see that again).No I don't think it is really. I do agree with an earlier poster who mentioned his inability to drive at the opposition and his tendancy to play a safe pass backwards or sideways when on the attack.
Yes but that is running about. He is good at it but not a lot else.
His positioning is generally poor?
That's bollocks. His positioning is good, his problems start with what he does when receiving the ball in good positions, that's where his deficiencies lie.
Watch him tonight. He does the Shipley thing of always being a bit too far to actually challenge or intercept and lots of pointing at others.
What else is he good at?Nonsense
What else is he good at?
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