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Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #1
When you look at us we look utter shite

-The midfield is pedestrian and dead on its feet by 70 every game
-Injuries
-Haji Wright is a serious donkey. Really awful waste of money, leaving us with Godden and A misfiring Simms as goalscorers
-The defence cannot play out from the back like we did last year, the amount of times we just make pointless cut out passes
-we've been leathered over the equivalent of 2 full games, by Cardiff, Hull and Huddersfield. They wont be any higher than mid table


I am starting to get really really worried that we have had our biggest window of opportunity to invest and push this club forward in 20 years, and we've spaffed the lot up the wall and ended up fighting at the wrong end of the table come April


Im sure il get abuse for this, but after a conversation earlier I think a few more of you may be worried. Its not a happy camp, its a quiet, shy camp and those who have been here a while have concerns at the level of player they now have as colleagues
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #2
There's no bedwetting. It's been a dreadful start to the season.

It ain't getting better without Sheaf and Van E.

That midfield looked pathetic. A better side presses the life out of that.
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #3
Saddlebrains said:
When you look at us we look utter shite

-The midfield is pedestrian and dead on its feet by 70 every game
-Injuries
-Haji Wright is a serious donkey. Really awful waste of money, leaving us with Godden and A misfiring Simms as goalscorers
-The defence cannot play out from the back like we did last year, the amount of times we just make pointless cut out passes
-we've been leathered over the equivalent of 2 full games, by Cardiff, Hull and Huddersfield. They wont be any higher than mid table


I am starting to get really really worried that we have had our biggest window of opportunity to invest and push this club forward in 20 years, and we've spaffed the lot up the wall and ended up fighting at the wrong end of the table come April


Im sure il get abuse for this, but after a conversation earlier I think a few more of you may be worried. Its not a happy camp, its a quiet, shy camp and those who have been here a while have concerns at the level of player they now have as colleagues
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The last paragraph is quite concerning, if accurate.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #4
ProfessorbyGrace said:
The last paragraph is quite concerning, if accurate.
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Really concerning.
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #5
ProfessorbyGrace said:
The last paragraph is quite concerning, if accurate.
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Probably why Kasey Palmer got an injury then.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #6
From my info, The main thing from what you would describe as 'the old guard' player wise at the club (you all know who them players will.be), is they were the ones who would be able to rally the rest, get a rocket up arses, an arm round the shoulder if needed etc get it into the heads of the other players how big this club is/can be and what it means to us, the supporters. You could see people buy into that, even loan players, Doyle, Norton Cuffy, Maatsen, etc over the seasons

Thats been attempted , and basically had fuck all effect thus far. If that doesn't change I really fear the camaraderie between players, bond with fans etc will fall to shit
 
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RegiswasGod

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #7
We were dogshit. To a man. Dogshit
 
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covcity4life

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #8
Robins doesn't seem worried so I won't panic too much just yet.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #9
The
Saddlebrains said:
From my info, The main thing from what you would describe as 'the old guard' player wise at the club (you all know who them players will.be), is they were the ones who would be able to rally the rest, get a rocket up arses, an arm round the shoulder if needed etc get it into the heads of the other players how big this club is/can be and what it means to us, the supporters. You could see people buy into that, even loan players, Doyle, Norton Cuffy, Maatsen, etc over the seasons

Thats been attempted , and basically had fuck all effect thus far. If that doesn't change I really fear the camaraderie between players, bond with fans etc will fall to shit
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Who is the old guard though? The sooner some of them are moved on the better anway
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #10
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
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Who is the old guard though? The sooner some of them are moved on the better anway
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There's still a few left over from the L1 Title
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #11
We’ve shown very little so far this season that would suggest we’ll turn this around and suddenly become a good side. We’ve barely created any chances, look very weak defensively and only seem capable of playing for the first 45 minutes. Feels like those who are confident we are going to be fine are basing it purely off the fact we finished 5th last year and spent a ton of money and not on any of the actual football on display on the pitch.
 
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SKYBLUES90

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #12
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
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Who is the old guard though? The sooner some of them are moved on the better anway
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Come on. Doesn’t take a genius to work out.
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #13
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
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Who is the old guard though? The sooner some of them are moved on the better anway
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Obviously Kelly, godden and fadz
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #14
Can anyone tell me what our style of play is?

Are we a possession team or a counter-attacking direct team? It's been 8 games and I cannot work out what the plan is...
 
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Marty

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #15
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
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Who is the old guard though? The sooner some of them are moved on the better anway
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The spine of the team, Fadz, Kelly, Godden.
 

SKYBLUES90

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #16
Don’t buy all this new team, needs to gel etc. We’ve been utter shite. And the main reason being the midfield has been total non Existent.

A central midfield pairing of Kelly & Eccles is League one standard at best. This is the problem.
 
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ms639

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #17
Our issue is we have a mid league 1 table centre midfield pairing. It dictates everything. We can’t play out from the back because anything that goes into Eccles or Kelly’s feet just goes sideways or straight back to the centre halves.

We play with no tempo because of these 2, they’re seemingly incapable of taking a ball, turning on it and making a forward pass, it makes us so easy to play against.

Blaming the strikers who are feeding of scraps is nonsense.


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junglej13

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #18
It is slightly starting to remind me of the Mowbray relegation season in some ways. I had full faith in Mowbray and remember him saying judge him after 10 games. I think he resigned after the 10th because he knew the side he'd assembled was shite. I sort of get a similar feeling from Robins that he knows we are deep in the shit.
 
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tomreagan84

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #19
Saddlebrains said:
When you look at us we look utter shite

-The midfield is pedestrian and dead on its feet by 70 every game
-Injuries
-Haji Wright is a serious donkey. Really awful waste of money, leaving us with Godden and A misfiring Simms as goalscorers
-The defence cannot play out from the back like we did last year, the amount of times we just make pointless cut out passes
-we've been leathered over the equivalent of 2 full games, by Cardiff, Hull and Huddersfield. They wont be any higher than mid table


I am starting to get really really worried that we have had our biggest window of opportunity to invest and push this club forward in 20 years, and we've spaffed the lot up the wall and ended up fighting at the wrong end of the table come April


Im sure il get abuse for this, but after a conversation earlier I think a few more of you may be worried. Its not a happy camp, its a quiet, shy camp and those who have been here a while have concerns at the level of player they now have as colleagues
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Realistically, it’ll be a dull, frustrating season; we’ll finish mid-table.

We’ve spent the gyokeres money and all hoped for better, but we’re not where we want to be.

We need a new midfield, hopefully the Hamer funds will be spent well.

We were desperately close last season, but didn’t get there.

Its shit, but I do trust Robins.
 
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AiS86

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #20
We’re shite at the minute, but we will improve. With Vik and Hamer leaving we never had a chance of matching last season, they were the reason we over achieved. You just can’t easily replace what they gave us. Allen, O’Hare and Milan will bring a lot more energy. Sheaf will bring back some control in midfield. We’ll get a creative midfielder and maybe a couple more for depth in Jan. injuries are shafting us now, but we’ll be fine. Mid table this season
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #21
Saddlebrains said:
There's still a few left over from the L1 Title
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Other than Mcfadz who must be on his last year now the others need to be moved on anyway.

Kelly needs to go, Godden and Allen ok as squad players but really we should have been looking to level up from them by now as well.

If I was new to the club and Kelly wasn't sure I was up to the level required I would be a bit bemused myself.

Perhaps some of the issues this season is from the old guard having to much influence on the club and Robins at the moment?
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #22
ms639 said:
Our issue is we have a mid league 1 table centre midfield pairing. It dictates everything. We can’t play out from the back because anything that goes into Eccles or Kelly’s feet just goes sideways or straight back to the centre halves.

We play with no tempo because of these 2, they’re seemingly incapable of taking a ball, turning on it and making a forward pass, it makes us so easy to play against.

Blaming the strikers who are feeding of scraps is nonsense.


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It's absolutely part if the issue and we need to sign a midfielder in January but to not to question our 8million pound forward, based on what we have seen so far would suggest you are either very easily pleased or this is your first season watching football. If Wright was a youth player of 18 I would be thinking give him time, but he is our record signing and in the prime of his career! What attributes are you seeing that make you think top player?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #23
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Other than Mcfadz who must be on his last year now the others need to be moved on anyway.

Kelly needs to go, Godden and Allen ok as squad players but really we should have been looking to level up from them by now as well.

If I was new to the club and Kelly wasn't sure I was up to the level required I would be a bit bemused myself.

Perhaps some of the issues this season is from the old guard having to much influence on the club and Robins at the moment?
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Strange, we've looked much better with Allen playing in the last two games. The upgrade type players we've bought haven't performed yet.

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Matt smith

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #24
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Other than Mcfadz who must be on his last year now the others need to be moved on anyway.

Kelly needs to go, Godden and Allen ok as squad players but really we should have been looking to level up from them by now as well.

If I was new to the club and Kelly wasn't sure I was up to the level required I would be a bit bemused myself.

Perhaps some of the issues this season is from the old guard having to much influence on the club and Robins at the moment?
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I’m sorry, there the only players doing the business right now
 
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ptr

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #25
skyblue93 said:
Can anyone tell me what our style of play is?

Are we a possession team or a counter-attacking direct team? It's been 8 games and I cannot work out what the plan is...
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How can you not see it? Get the ball out wide, cross it to nobody…win ball back and repeat.

God forbid we pass it into the strikers feet early.
 

Matt smith

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #26
Saddlebrains said:
From my info, The main thing from what you would describe as 'the old guard' player wise at the club (you all know who them players will.be), is they were the ones who would be able to rally the rest, get a rocket up arses, an arm round the shoulder if needed etc get it into the heads of the other players how big this club is/can be and what it means to us, the supporters. You could see people buy into that, even loan players, Doyle, Norton Cuffy, Maatsen, etc over the seasons

Thats been attempted , and basically had fuck all effect thus far. If that doesn't change I really fear the camaraderie between players, bond with fans etc will fall to shit
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Recruitment been shocking
 
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covboy9

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #27
The formation doesn’t suit the personnel it’s that simple
 

shepardo01

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #28
Saddlebrains said:
When you look at us we look utter shite

-The midfield is pedestrian and dead on its feet by 70 every game
-Injuries
-Haji Wright is a serious donkey. Really awful waste of money, leaving us with Godden and A misfiring Simms as goalscorers
-The defence cannot play out from the back like we did last year, the amount of times we just make pointless cut out passes
-we've been leathered over the equivalent of 2 full games, by Cardiff, Hull and Huddersfield. They wont be any higher than mid table


I am starting to get really really worried that we have had our biggest window of opportunity to invest and push this club forward in 20 years, and we've spaffed the lot up the wall and ended up fighting at the wrong end of the table come April


Im sure il get abuse for this, but after a conversation earlier I think a few more of you may be worried. Its not a happy camp, its a quiet, shy camp and those who have been here a while have concerns at the level of player they now have as colleagues
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After my thread about highlighting that we were a Sheaf injury away from a Kelly/Eccles midfield - which would be (and has proved correctly) to be a problem.. I was just about to start a thread questioning whether we are worse than we were first season back up.....
I am feeling that we are.....
 
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Pusb1

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #29
shepardo01 said:
After my thread about highlighting that we were a Sheaf injury away from a Kelly/Eccles midfield - which would be (and has proved correctly) to be a problem.. I was just about to start a thread questioning whether we are worse than we were first season back up.....
I am feeling that we are.....
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we are. compare that team to now. we are miles off to be fair
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Sep 25, 2023
  • #30
shepardo01 said:
After my thread about highlighting that we were a Sheaf injury away from a Kelly/Eccles midfield - which would be (and has proved correctly) to be a problem.. I was just about to start a thread questioning whether we are worse than we were first season back up.....
I am feeling that we are.....
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What’s bonkers is that many on here were insisting we didn’t need to sign anyone else on deadline day and that our squad was big enough. We have the smaller squad in the league, a ton of injury prone players and zero strength in depth.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #31
I also am starting to feel some sympathy for Mr King at this point, he has been taken for an absolute ride by the recruitment team after entrusting a huge transfer windfall with them.

As for the players, there needs to be a serious team meeting held before QPR. Extra training if needed or if not that then extra team bonding time.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #32
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I also am starting to feel some sympathy for Mr King at this point, he has been taken for an absolute ride by the recruitment team after entrusting a huge transfer windfall with them.

As for the players, there needs to be a serious team meeting held before QPR. Extra training if needed or if not that then extra team bonding time.
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I think it’s fairly obvious that King is both out of his depth and didn’t have any knowledge of the football industry, or really even football itself, before taking over the club.

Why he decided to buy us is still a complete mystery.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #33
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I think it’s fairly obvious that King is both out of his depth and didn’t have any knowledge of the football industry, or really even football itself, before taking over the club.

Why he decided to buy us is still a complete mystery.
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It is, but he has been taken for a mug this summer and I imagine has already begun to realise to what extent this is.
 

nicksar

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #34
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I also am starting to feel some sympathy for Mr King at this point, he has been taken for an absolute ride by the recruitment team after entrusting a huge transfer windfall with them.

As for the players, there needs to be a serious team meeting held before QPR. Extra training if needed or if not that then extra team bonding time.
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Doug King played a blinder getting the very best deal possible for Gyokeres and tbh he got a great deal for the Hamer transfer as well.
He won't be slow to pull the trigger if he thinks changes are required.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #35
nicksar said:
Doug King played a blinder getting the very best deal possible for Gyokeres and tbh he got a great deal for the Hamer transfer as well.
He won't be slow to pull the trigger if he thinks changes are required.
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If the next few months go as badly as they seriously could then I don’t think anyone’s job is safe bar MR and Viveash
 
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