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BBC article about Saturday's game (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jan 24, 2020
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #141
Sky Blue Pete said:
I agree it’s what I’ve asked when I sent our statement to Mr Eastwood
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Great_Expectations said:
Amongst the many things wrong with that article, one of the biggest things; how can the Chair of the Supporters Trust not actually support the team? Zero credibility right off the bat.
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Who does he support?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #142
Nick said:
It's not just a relationship with "Sky Blues Talk", it's with fans and members in general. There currently isn't one with the members of the Trust.

It's not unique to here or anything different to say Keith on Twitter or Dave or doesn't have the internet but signed up in town.
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But we are the ones trying to do something about it.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #143
Agree with shmmeee again, probably best to leave the bitching about the Trust out now as it'll become more about that than the matter at hand.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #144
shmmeee said:
But we are the ones trying to do something about it.
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Oh and I agree but will anything change? I was trying 3 or 4 years ago when I wasn't as much of a prick pointing things out to them. Not just to here but make them see that fans dont see them as a voice.

They fully know the situation though, Knowl did that poll (poetry) in the summer and they had no interest in listening to it or learning from it.

Hopefully somebody like Pete who is less of a prick than me can build a bridge of sorts!
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #145
Nick said:
It isn't us V Trust, it's people pissed off that the Trust keep speaking on their behalf when the overwhelming majority don't feel represented by them. It's not just on here that people are mentioning it.
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Yes, but other fans will now have become more aware of the indemnity and/or the Trust's stance due to the 'fans groups fighting' headline.

The good thing about the BBC using the 'scabs' headline is that fans that do go to Brum will read that and go 'well that's rubbish, no-ones called me a scab, Trust don't know what they're on about'.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #146
Nick said:
Oh and I agree but will anything change? I was trying 3 or 4 years ago when I wasn't as much of a prick pointing things out to them.

Hopefully somebody like Pete who is less of a prick than me can build a bridge of sorts!
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I’m a big prick nick look at my keeper comments
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #147
MusicDating said:
Yes, but other fans will now have become more aware of the indemnity and/or the Trust's stance due to the 'fans groups fighting' headline.

The good thing about the BBC using the 'scabs' headline is that fans that do go to Brum will read that and go 'well that's rubbish, no-ones called me a scab, Trust don't know what they're on about'.
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I agree but it doesn't stop them rolling out for occasions to push an agenda.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #148
Nick said:
Oh and I agree but will anything change? I was trying 3 or 4 years ago when I wasn't as much of a prick pointing things out to them. Not just to here but make them see that fans dont see them as a voice.

They fully know the situation though, Knowl did that poll (poetry) in the summer and they had no interest in listening to it or learning from it.

Hopefully somebody like Pete who is less of a prick than me can build a bridge of sorts!
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Exactly.

They were even told by the members that attended the AGM in July but that too was ignored:

Sky Blue Trust - Key Points from the Open Discussion at the Sky Blue Trust AGM, 15th July, 2019

Read through that again & tell me what they have actually taken onboard in the last 6 months?

I'd love to see us work together but when they have consistently ignored their members for years whilst releasing inflammatory or divisive statements in the name of said members I'm hugely disappointed.

They have pushed their SISU OUT (at any cost) agenda so hard, including trying to force a takeover, that the club will no longer speak to them so what is actually the point of them now? They have no influence.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #149
Frostie said:
They were even told by the members that attended the AGM in July but that too was ignored:

Sky Blue Trust - Key Points from the Open Discussion at the Sky Blue Trust AGM, 15th July, 2019
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And of course there was quite a lively discussion prior to that meeting around whether it was even worth trying as it had been done before. Fair play some people turned up and gave it a shot but once again here we are a few months down the line and nothing has changed.

That's why nobody believes Neil when he says he just forget the indemnity or its an oversight to have not informed members of certain things. Its a pattern thats been ongoing for years. They haven't built up the goodwill for people to accept excuses like that.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #150
chiefdave said:
And of course there was quite a lively discussion prior to that meeting around whether it was even worth trying as it had been done before. Fair play some people turned up and gave it a shot but once again here we are a few months down the line and nothing has changed.

That's why nobody believes Neil when he says he just forget the indemnity or its an oversight to have not informed members of certain things. Its a pattern thats been ongoing for years. They haven't built up the goodwill for people to accept excuses like that.
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Wow
 
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PurpleBin

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #151
How can they forget something which is clearly so important?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #152
Grendel said:
Lol why does anyone think that guy is better than any of the others
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He's a ballpoint pen

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #153
 
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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #154
Sky Blue Pete said:
Heard anything?
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #155
Frostie said:
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Wow.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #156
Henry Winter always responds to CJ because of the England connection, soif he really wanted to redress the article and get something more balanced out there that mentions the indemnity clause, he'd have no problem doing so, therefore I can only assume there is no appetite to.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #157
rob9872 said:
Henry Winter always responds to CJ because of the England connection, soif he really wanted to redress the article and get something more balanced out there that mentions the indemnity clause, he'd have no problem doing so, therefore I can only assume there is no appetite to.
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There really is no appetite to. CJ and Neil will just bullshit everybody and act like victims. Same as every other time, they just hope people won't ask them questions.

They assume people are thick, the same as when I was being told somebody on their board had nothing to do with those social media accounts
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #158
usskyblue said:
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Nope
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #159
 
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usskyblue

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  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #160
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #161
As our plight is getting some publicity again it's surely only a matter of time before the white knights Hoffman & Elliott resurface. Of course with insufficient funds & no plan (except to probably close down the academy again) but they'll be acclaimed by the Trust as they've been promised shares or similar... All too predictable.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #162
Frostie said:
As our plight is getting some publicity again it's surely only a matter of time before the white knights Hoffman & Elliott resurface. Of course with insufficient funds & no plan (except to probably close down the academy again) but they'll be acclaimed by the Trust as they've been promised shares or similar... All too predictable.
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Him and Elliott are already wetting up fans at games.
 
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PurpleBin

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #163
Didn't Keiron used to work for the club? That's huge if so.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #164
PurpleBin said:
Didn't Keiron used to work for the club? That's huge if so.
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Yeah he was comms
 
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PurpleBin

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #165
Just been to the paper shop and got The Times. His article focuses mainly on Robins. Very little about the off field issues.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #166
Liquid Gold said:
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Is this the old press guy for Ccfc
 
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PurpleBin

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #167
Sky Blue Pete said:
Is this the old press guy for Ccfc
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Would appear so. Quite significant really...Is it unreasonable to assume others in the club hold similar views? Madness!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #168
PurpleBin said:
Would appear so. Quite significant really...Is it unreasonable to assume others in the club hold similar views? Madness!
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Yep
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #169
Yeah used to run the comms and commented on the wall. Always seemed like a decent guy with time for fans and has spoken very warmly about us and the club since departing.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #170
In a strange way the trust have united fans but I don't think in the way they hoped
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #171
Nick said:
In a strange way the trust have united fans but I don't think in the way they hoped
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The Crowley rant says it all really. It’s impossible to work with these people - it’s just pointless they are like Flat Earth Members
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #172
Hmmm... so we're only selectively deciding peoples' occupations hold bias...
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #173
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmmm... so we're only selectively deciding peoples' occupations hold bias...
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Who?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #174
Neil says he’s been encouraged this week that more unifying voices are coming together!
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2020
  • #175
usskyblue said:
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Interesting the trust make it the news that’s how this works
 
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